The Royal Family #6

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Chita said:
The thing that is standing out on all the tv footage is that within seconds of Prince Philip walking up to people, he has them laughing.

Wicked sense of humour.
He was a real Dude.
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I can vouch for this. I don't want to out myself but he and The queen came to open a building where I worked and as soon as he walked into out office, he cracked a joke, and I thought it was hilarious. Also the Queen is proper tiny.
 
Is there any significance in that he is named as His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh? The Prince/Princess as opposed to Prince/Princess is reserved for children of the monarch, which Philip wasn’t, even at birth as Prince Philipos of Greece and Denmark as the child of a younger son, equivalent to Beatrice and Eugenie etc. After renouncing his titles, nationality and religion [Edit: plus his own place in the British line of succession], he wasn't made a Prince of the United Kingdom until his wife's reign, his father-in-law making him HRH DoE only though he continued to be known generally as Prince Philip anyway .

I've just not noticed it before.

Edit: Twitter pointed out that he was the oldest member of the Greek royal family as well as the British. We've tended to forget his connections until now when they are all popping up, such as being the cousin of the late King of Romania and of the Crown Prince of Serbia.
 
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Chita said:
The thing that is standing out on all the tv footage is that within seconds of Prince Philip walking up to people, he has them laughing.

Wicked sense of humour.
He was a real Dude.
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He was also a WW II hero. A real hero. His ship was attacked by the Germans. He tricked them into redirecting their aim by throwing a smoky wooden raft into the sea -- and was credited with saving all lives on board. He was 22.

His mother saved some Jews by hiding them from the Nazis in the war, too.
 
FrostyChops said:
I mean really, if they are no longer bound by protocol and grey suits, they could have come up with something better than that.

Apparently a US TV host has already said the stress they have caused won't have helped (maybe, maybe not).
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That statement is a bit crap. I mean, they must have known the knives would be out for them, even though a 99 year old man with a heart condition who had had an operation and spent a month in hospital is hardly a shock early death. Its a bit of a stretch to say the Oprah interview killed him off when it was a month ago!.
I suppose maybe it was put out by a staff member, as at the end of the day Harry is a man who has lost his grandfather and is thousands of miles away. Maybe he had other things on his mind rather than putting statements on his Instagram.
 
FrostyChops said:
Meghan and Harry have updated their website with a very impersonal message.

news.sky.com

Prince Philip: Harry and Meghan post tribute to Duke of Edinburgh on their website

Prince Harry and Meghan's tribute comes a month after the couple's bombshell interview about royal life with Oprah Winfrey.
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It’s the sort of message I’d expect from a celebrity or a company, not from a grandson :/ makes me think he didn’t actually OK it and that their team just bundled something out because they thought they had to.
 
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I didn't expect him to live much longer after his hospital stay but I did think he would reach 100. Such tragic news, he served this country for most of his life. I feel so bad for the Queen, they were soulmates but I'm glad he is now at peace after his recent ill health.

I read that his funeral burial will take place next Saturday after 8 days of national mourning.
 
shragae said:
He was also a WW II hero. A real hero. His ship was attacked by the Germans. He tricked them into redirecting their aim by throwing a smoky wooden raft into the sea -- and was credited with saving all lives on board. He was 22.

His mother saved some Jews by hiding them from the Nazis in the war, too.
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He was Mentioned In Dispatches for the British and was awarded the Greek War Cross by the Greek government. He was originally an allied neutral as far as the UK was concerned (like the US citizens in the UK armed services until Pearl Harbor) until Germany invaded Greece.

Princess Alice was recognised as Righteous Among The Nations by Israel and as a British Hero of the Holocaust. Because her sons in law were German servicemen, the Germans occupying Athens thought that she would be sympathetic to their cause - quite wrongly. She is buried in Jerusalem.
 
Have just seen this on Blind Gossip sounds like its about Prince Philip.
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They Knew The End Was Here - BLIND GOSSIP

[Blind Gossip] We have one very interesting piece of information to convey regarding the passing of this iconic figure. All of his descendants were told over a month ago that this was the end. Again, all of them were told. Over a month ago. There was no pretence within the family that he was...
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Blurp said:
Is there any significance in that he is named as His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh? The Prince/Princess as opposed to Prince/Princess is reserved for children of the monarch, which Philip wasn’t, even at birth as Prince Philipos of Greece and Denmark as the child of a younger son, equivalent to Beatrice and Eugenie etc. After renouncing his titles, nationality and religion [Edit: plus his own place in the British line of succession], he wasn't made a Prince of the United Kingdom until his wife's reign, his father-in-law making him HRH DoE only though he continued to be known generally as Prince Philip anyway .

I've just not noticed it before.

Edit: Twitter pointed out that he was the oldest member of the Greek royal family as well as the British. We've tended to forget his connections until now when they are all popping up, such as being the cousin of the late King of Romania and of the Crown Prince of Serbia.
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It's probably some type of additional honorary thing for him as consort.
That's the only thing I can think of and that would make sense.

Like Charles is "The Prince of Wales" and his sons are "Princes of Wales" (as courtesy).

The royal website is back online with a book of condolence for those who wish to send a message.
 
Peachsquish said:
Have just seen this on Blind Gossip sounds like its about Prince Philip.
blindgossip.com

They Knew The End Was Here - BLIND GOSSIP

[Blind Gossip] We have one very interesting piece of information to convey regarding the passing of this iconic figure. All of his descendants were told over a month ago that this was the end. Again, all of them were told. Over a month ago. There was no pretence within the family that he was...
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Yes l think he was sent home to die. There's been no update on his condition since his hospital release. It only seems to get worse with those two. The Times Royal correspondent said in their podcast categorically that Megan's behaviour at the flower girl dress fitting made Kate cry. That is what the 'recollections vary' comment was aimed at. Seems to me that a lot more has happened that we will never know about.
 
Peachsquish said:
Have just seen this on Blind Gossip sounds like its about Prince Philip.
blindgossip.com

They Knew The End Was Here - BLIND GOSSIP

[Blind Gossip] We have one very interesting piece of information to convey regarding the passing of this iconic figure. All of his descendants were told over a month ago that this was the end. Again, all of them were told. Over a month ago. There was no pretence within the family that he was...
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I’m going to say in their defence that one of the worst moments of my life, actually probably the worst so far, was when my elderly Nana who so vibrant and glamorous and full of life and who wouldn’t leave the house without make up on very suddenly became ill and had to have emergency surgery which in all honesty she probably shouldn’t have had. We were told to go and see her as this was nearly the end and the surgery had only prolonged her life. I assumed she’d be sleeping peacefully. She wasn’t sleeping, she was off her face on morphine, delirious, gruniting and clawing at herself. She looked a mess, her hair was a mess, she was thin and disheveled and she didn’t have her false teeth in. She would have hated being seen like that. I can still remember the shock I felt when I walked in that room and saw her. I wish I hadn’t seen her like that. So much so that when my Grandad when down the same path a few years later I made the decision not to see him and remember him as he was and I don’t regret that for a second.

I can imagine it must have been distressing for them all to see Philip like that, given how much of towering figure he was and how stoic he’d always been.
 
Peachsquish said:
Have just seen this on Blind Gossip sounds like its about Prince Philip.
blindgossip.com

They Knew The End Was Here - BLIND GOSSIP

[Blind Gossip] We have one very interesting piece of information to convey regarding the passing of this iconic figure. All of his descendants were told over a month ago that this was the end. Again, all of them were told. Over a month ago. There was no pretence within the family that he was...
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This. I’ve said before my son was put on standby at the beginning of February. This was a couple of weeks before PP was admitted to the King Edward Hospital and then later to Barts. I agree with the poster who said it‘s sad that he was put through
all of this when he could have spent his final months at home 🙁
 
Peachsquish said:
Have just seen this on Blind Gossip sounds like its about Prince Philip.
blindgossip.com

They Knew The End Was Here - BLIND GOSSIP

[Blind Gossip] We have one very interesting piece of information to convey regarding the passing of this iconic figure. All of his descendants were told over a month ago that this was the end. Again, all of them were told. Over a month ago. There was no pretence within the family that he was...
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It's been on my mind a bit since Phil was in hospital and now again with this blind.
I really don't understand why the Ssexes chose to move to the US during a pandemic, when the US was not only doing worse than Europe, but also the distance. With all the restrictions (and even during normal times) you have difficulty getting anywhere, esp when you have to cross continents.
To me that seems like incredibly poor decision making during a critical time and esp considering that H has a lot more family than M, M has her mum only who could've moved to their place anywhere in the world to be close, whereas H has (had) two elderly grandparents, an elderly father and step-mother (and an elderly extended family he's said to be close to).
The fact that he chose not to come to England after P's hospital stay is also strange to me, esp as the family has known his state and the writing was on the wall.

Though I also understand @Gym&Tonic's story and sentiments, to me it was the opposite, I also saw a grandparent at the end and even the dead body and to me that gave peace and a better acceptance of the situation (ie accepting they are really dead) (edit: and didn't affect my memories or how I see them).
We are in the end all quite different.

One more thing, had H come earlier, he wouldn't need to rush now (don't know what exactly the restrictions are right now for US-UK travel).

In the end though, Philip has had a very long and fullfilling life and went exactly as he wanted - before his 100th and peacefully (ie a euphemism for "in his sleep", I suppose how most of us would like to go) and due to the pandemic his funeral will be even less fussy than originally planned, so I guess he's had his wishes fullfilled.
 
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