The Royal Family #46

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Suzesnooze said:
It wasn’t a state funeral (although it looked like one).

I’m just remembering it from discussions I had at the time at work etc and people finding it odd Charles was so involved and mainly from other divorced people.

Yes in Harry’s book he talks about not even crying when she died but seeing members of the public crying over her. (Nothing against him not crying as he was obviously in deep shock).
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Harry (or insert whatever name you'd like) can write as many books as he/she wants, doesn't mean the truth is being told.
 
Talking of aristos aging badly, did anyone see the pictures of Andrew Parker Bowles at Cheltenham? It's hard to think he was the inspiration behind Rupert Campbell Black.


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Andouilette said:
And some of us didn't feel 'heart sorry' for her, in my case because I had an excellent source of information from within the Spencer family through my mother who was good friends with a close Spencer relative. There's no point me going into huge detail because I can't prove it, the source is dead, as is my mother. Suffice to say that Diana went into it with both eyes wide open, she knew what she wanted and she got it. There was huge unease in parts of the greater Spencer family as they did not feel she was stable enough for the 'job'.
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Quite how a 19 year old can go into anything with 'both eyes wide open' I don't know. More 19 year olds than not are incredibly naive when it comes to decision making. 😂
 
JulesWake said:
Depends of what is being said. Point being just because a book is written doesn't mean there aren't discrepancies or embellished recollections. Not everything written is truth.
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I can understand that but if you are lying about the Royals and can’t prove it to be true I think you’d be sued.

My basis for these thoughts is Britney and Britney alone, that book was going to be a massive shock and then it was nothing. It makes me wonder what juicy stuff they took out of Spare!
 
Fi scot said:
I haven’t read spare. However, if it wasn’t true wouldn’t he have been sued?
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I think the family saw a lot what of Harry and Meghan’s said in the Oprah interview be disputed based on technicalities (e.g Meghan getting the wrong King George) or just for outright being incorrect, and then Harry himself went on TV again to claim they’d never said the family were racist which was a big thing. So a lot of people didn’t trust their version of events anymore, or at least thought there was a few embellished bits so you don’t know which bits to actually trust. Which meant it was easier for the media and people to just say they didn’t believe Harry without the family having to actually drag it through court and sue their own son/brother. William just decided to cut him off. Harry kinda proved them right, he got the wrong dates from when an Xbox was released, said he was in one place when he was in another for the Queen Mothers passing, claimed Meghan had seen her face all over the newsstand of Kensington Whole Foods when they don’t sell magazines. They’re all so minor but build into a picture that you can’t trust any of it.
 
Strawberry Tart said:
Well if you look back at the footage from the time, millions thought very differently. To say she milked the public for sympathy is something I never saw. She was hugely more popular than any of the rest of them who were seen as a stuffy institution and not in touch with the public and Di wasn’t called the People’s Princess for no reason. She made bad choices as we all do in life, but I wonder how things would have been if Charles hadn’t been chasing his bit on the side instead of concentrating on his marriage. It may even have given the boys a stable upbringing if he had. He was too busy telling Camilla he wished he was a tampon to be with her! We all have long memories of the time. Tampongate was enough to put me off Charles for life. No wonder royalty is becoming less relevant to the under 30s
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People whitewash Diana far too much in hindsight. She was the other woman in multiple marriages. She ended Gavin Hastings marriage. Even Dodi was engaged to someone else. She was excellent at manipulating the press and sold her story in a way that the public has been furious with Harry for doing. She was no angel, she, like the rest of them was a deeply flawed person.
 
Brightstar72 said:
So were the men in these relationships absolved of any responsibility to their respective partners, or was it completely the fault of Diana? Poor, poor pathetic weak men

No “other woman” can end a marriage, relationship or engagement without the man’s full cooperation and consent.
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It was both parties fault obviously but we’re talking about Diana her and therefore highlighting that she was no saint
 
Brightstar72 said:
So were the men in these relationships absolved of any responsibility to their respective partners, or was it completely the fault of Diana? Poor, poor pathetic weak men

No “other woman” can end a marriage, relationship or engagement without the man’s full cooperation and consent.
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Much like Charles and Camilla? Yet Diana seems to receive much more grace for her affairs than Camilla.
 
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