The Royal Family #29

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H most definitely needs a lesson in self awareness. I can appreciate that growing up in the RF wasn’t great all the time. His parents unhappy marriage, the ugly separation and divorce, his mothers death and the exploitation that came with it, the press... And his position has the second son surely has contributed to this but it’s not the singular reason. So I highly doubt being the spare is the actual root of all the problems. Being the heir has probably lots of downsides as well. Or being the cousin. Being the spare is just one aspect of his life. It’s on him if he makes it this overwhelming shadow on his existence.
And if he thinks people don’t realise this he must think they are pretty simple. People don’t have a lot of patience for the ultra privileged elite when they whine about their lot in life in such a public way. H has ALL the connections and resources to live exactly the life he wants (apart from being king, but I doubt that’s what he wants, or to decide how the constitutional institution the monarchy is works). He couldn’t his first pick in jobs (humanitarian angel Prince with cool well paying extra jobs) and instead of showing some resilience and accepting how some things work he gets petty and whiny. If you don’t want the press and people to be mean - don’t put yourself out there. Because there will always be people who don’t like what you do. Life is unfair like that. He could live with a less public profile and hide behind a well set up charity. He just has to hire the right people to do the job. But he needs to realise he is not carrying the same weight as he did as a royal when he represented Britain. He could also start a company full of great mental health set ups for the employees that produces educational material about all sorts of things or Ecco friendly holiday let’s or cool sports clothes (Ecco friendly and fair shares for the employees) for veterans with say amputations or similar. He could be stay at home dad. His possibilities are endless.
 
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This country is in a huge financial mess. Even if you had some sympathy for him, facing hardship will soon knock any sympathetic thoughts you might have. Even his die hard fans might be giving him the side eye soon. Cheer up Harry, the world is your oyster. Stop moaning and move on. They can’t though - they need to feel aggrieved, it’s their currency.
 
Great_Kate said:
Being the heir has probably lots of downsides as well.
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Imagine being William and having it explained to you from a very early age that this is what your life will be and unless you want to cause a constitutional crisis, there is no deviating.


I think Harry and Meghan just enable each other. They both feel victimised for some reason and feed off each others misery. Unless they change the narrative soon, people will lose interest.
 
House of Tea said:
This country is in a huge financial mess. Even if you had some sympathy for him, facing hardship will soon knock any sympathetic thoughts you might have. Even his die hard fans might be giving him the side eye soon. Cheer up Harry, the world is your oyster. Stop moaning and move on. They can’t though - they need to feel aggrieved, it’s their currency.
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Yes it will be various illnesses next no doubt caused by a difficult childhood and his Mother's premature death. To be honest I think Meghan will eventually dump him for a less needy person.
 
Does he realise most people would gladly switch places with him? He got hired by that start up when he has zero work experience, no higher education. He's got multi million dollar deals, including for this nonsense book that obviously will have been written with a ghost writer because Harry has never been known for his communication skills. Most people would not be able to get that even if they had talent, but this talentless almost 40 year old just waltzes in.

I'm not saying this negates the negative experiences he might have had in the Firm, but one could argue most of us have grown up with trauma from our families, our childhoods, losses, etc. But we don't get all the perks he does, so maybe, just maybe, he should stfu.
 
Harry wouldn't be happy if he was the heir either. He'd be moaning about that instead. Their popularity has been falling since they started moaning. When are they going to realise that it's a terrible strategy and they need to start being more positive. Instead they seem to think they have to moan more to explain to us idiots that don't get it how hard their lives really are.
 
Em_gardener said:
Harry wouldn't be happy if he was the heir either. He'd be moaning about that instead. Their popularity has been falling since they started moaning. When are they going to realise that it's a terrible strategy and they need to start being more positive. Instead they seem to think they have to moan more to explain to us idiots that don't get it how hard their lives really are.
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I was thinking the same thing. If being the "spare" was such a hardship for him, how the hell would he have coped with the extra pressure and protocol that comes with being the heir? You just can't please some people. The man-child's had a more privileged existence than 99.9% of people on the planet and its still not good enough. He has had lifelong access to anything he wants...the absolute best of everything, people to cover up his mis-steps, never had to deal with any of the mundane crap that fills our daily lives; no bills to pay, no hospital waiting lists, not having to worry about going to a good school. He's pathetic.
 
Just thinking about a conversation on another forum about Queen Alexandra bleeping up her children by clinging to them like a limpet. George V actually benefited from being the Spare as he got to have a proper career away from home in the Navy before hooking up with the tough cookie May of Teck. George VI was also the Spare, again with a wife of steel.
 
Blurp said:
Just thinking about a conversation on another forum about Queen Alexandra bleeping up her children by clinging to them like a limpet. George V actually benefited from being the Spare as he got to have a proper career away from home in the Navy before hooking up with the tough cookie May of Teck. George VI was also the Spare, again with a wife of steel.
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True but another major factor would be that they stopped being spare and became heirs. One wonders how George V would have coped if May of Teck had married Albert Victor as originally planned and then AV had died anyway.
 
Harry would not have had the freedoms or forgiveness he enjoyed through his life thus far if not for being the spare. He was born to the money and privilege without the heightened expectations and pressures. While still a life of intense public attention and the impacts of tragedies and personal issues, let's just take a moment to think if the heir to the throne would have been forgiven by the public for having been pictured in a Nazi costume?
 
Friends of mine are loving this - they had a reaction to SPARE as the title, because he is second best, and not good enough, so he left the evil mean racists who hated his wife and didn't give their kids titles at birth. He'll tell the racist BRF and British people what for! Mummy was murdered! Everyone is racist and mean to me! Daddy is EVIL because he didn't give me money! They believe it all, hook line and sinker and it's a bit sickening.

They are both in intense need of real therapy not life coaching from people deeply troubled as they are, but they won't. The BRF is their currency. Without it they have nothing. They will complain and whinge about how hard done by they are, and if anyone criticizes them, they're racist or cruel or whatever else insult.
 
Em_gardener said:
Harry wouldn't be happy if he was the heir either. He'd be moaning about that instead. Their popularity has been falling since they started moaning. When are they going to realise that it's a terrible strategy and they need to start being more positive. Instead they seem to think they have to moan more to explain to us idiots that don't get it how hard their lives really are.
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Harry is just a glass half full, grass is greener on the other side person. Money, position, privilege don’t make any difference … it’s just him.

The main problem, as I see it, is that he’s a glass half full, grass is greener on the other side person with nothing to actually do surrounded by people who just green light him. He must be exhausting to be around.
 
Boring Monday said:
Harry is just a glass half full, grass is greener on the other side person. Money, position, privilege don’t make any difference … it’s just him.

The main problem, as I see it, is that he’s a glass half full, grass is greener on the other side person with nothing to actually do surrounded by people who just green light him. He must be exhausting to be around.
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Without being born royal, Harry would be in the army either in the lower ranks or at most a low ranked officer on an average salary. Not a multi millionaire doing the odd bit of charity work and living in a huge California mansion. Meghan would not have touched him with a bargepole if he was not rich and famous either
 
TYL159 said:
Without being born royal, Harry would be in the army either in the lower ranks or at most a low ranked officer on an average salary. Not a multi millionaire doing the odd bit of charity work and living in a huge California mansion. Meghan would not have touched him with a bargepole if he was not rich and famous either
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Would Kate have touched William if he wasn't rich and famous? Judging by who Pippa went for, I doubt it
 
TYL159 said:
Without being born royal, Harry would be in the army either in the lower ranks or at most a low ranked officer on an average salary. Not a multi millionaire doing the odd bit of charity work and living in a huge California mansion. Meghan would not have touched him with a bargepole if he was not rich and famous either
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Doesn’t matter, though does it?
his personify is what it is regardless of his position in life, and who knows in amongst all the Whataboutery and whatiffery he might actually have been happier (only marginally, mind you, his personality doesn’t seem the type to be deliriously happy what ever the circs)
 
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