The Moscow/Idaho murders

[teaandgoss101]

I think the police are waiting for the public interest to die down but something tells me it won’t with this crime. I think tik tok which has taken popularity the last couple of years has really highlight this case and it is being spoken about internationally not just in the US.

Which obviously is a good thing as we want the person /s found and justice for those poor kids.

 

[LasVegas702]

I’m just not convinced this is real. Why didn’t they go forward at the time with the footage. And if it is of that night they must have been concerned enough to record it so why not calll the police.

I really hope the person isn’t faking it for attention . Could land them in all sorts of trouble

that Jospeh Morris guy on YouTube likes to fake stuff. and I think that I heard that he was the one with the video and but then there is some outlet covering it.

You would think that would be conflict of interest being coroner and defence lawyer ?
I don’t believe the neighbours video, why has it only emerged now ? Or phoned the police at the time.
Someone screaming like that you would investigate not record it and do nothing in my opinion.
Also if someone was attacking you and friend surely you would be screaming help not leave me alone..
Another day and no closer to an arrest it seems

I agree I don't believe the video about the scream either. There is a YouTuber that thinks that they have heard that audio somewhere else in the past and when people saw that it was Jospeh Morris' video, people like nope.

I think the police are waiting for the public interest to die down but something tells me it won’t with this crime. I think tik tok which has taken popularity the last couple of years has really highlight this case and it is being spoken about internationally not just in the US.

Which obviously is a good thing as we want the person /s found and justice for those poor kids.

I agree I don't think that the public interest in this case is going to die down. There is a youtuber that is live streaming right now that is part of the true crime community and it's 9:30 am in the US and there are over 2,000 people in his live stream and this is just one of the many different live streams about this case. There is another youtuber that thinks that the FBI should just take over this case and I agree.

 

[teaandgoss101]

that Jospeh Morris guy on YouTube likes to fake stuff. and I think that I heard that he was the one with the video and but then there is some outlet covering it.


I agree I don't believe the video about the scream either. There is a YouTuber that thinks that they have heard that audio somewhere else in the past and when people saw that it was Jospeh Morris' video, people like nope.


I agree I don't think that the public interest in this case is going to die down. There is a youtuber that is live streaming right now that is part of the true crime community and it's 9:30 am in the US and there are over 2,000 people in his live stream and this is just one of the many different live streams about this case. There is another youtuber that thinks that the FBI should just take over this case and I agree.

Yeah I agree I think the second they realised there was no real evidence to make it an open and shut case they should hand it over to FBI. No shade to the police force I’m sure they have done there best but I think this is a much larger scale than they are use to by handing over to FBI they could w their attention to making the community feel safe and building trust with the community which coul help bring the killer to justice much sooner

 

[LasVegas702]

Yeah I agree I think the second they realised there was no real evidence to make it an open and shut case they should hand it over to FBI. No shade to the police force I’m sure they have done there best but I think this is a much larger scale than they are use to by handing over to FBI they could w their attention to making the community feel safe and building trust with the community which coul help bring the killer to justice much sooner

I agree, I think that the Moscow Police has done the best they could with this case but they don't have the resources to handle this, even experts think that crime scene is has a lot going on with it, all the people that have been in and out of that house that you have to eliminate just to isolate the DNA of the killer (s).

and then the coroner is also a lawyer that is the lawyer to that guy that just got arrested that lived less than one mile away from where the murders happened.. SMH. it's just too much. There is a youtuber that doesn't like the coroner and there is another youtuber that has pointed out that people were saying that the K's Father was giving out conflicting information but she was like the coroner is too and the Moscow Police department is too. and then gave example of conflicting information from the K's Father, the Coroner and the Moscow Police Department.

 

[Merpedy]

Yeah I agree I think the second they realised there was no real evidence to make it an open and shut case they should hand it over to FBI. No shade to the police force I’m sure they have done there best but I think this is a much larger scale than they are use to by handing over to FBI they could w their attention to making the community feel safe and building trust with the community which coul help bring the killer to justice much sooner

To be fair, the FBI has been helping them since early days from what I understand

I think the problem is probably the lack of evidence. They were probably hoping to go on circumstantial stuff in questioning but the father has ruined that. I would also think that all these rumours that the public keep coming out with and the American news seem to be picking up at times will make it harder too if that was their plan

If they do have DNA evidence, it’s not in the database. So I doubt it’s related to this random dude and the coroner

 

[LasVegas702]

I heard that there is DNA evidence that is on all of the victims

I don't think that the coroner killed those 4 people btw. I think that a lot of people are just really surprised that she is also the defense attorney for a KILLER arrested a mile away from murders for stalking wife around house with a knife and his arrest was not related to the murders of the 4 college students.

Idaho student murders’ investigators likely comparing DNA evidence to FBI database

Authorities investigating the murders of four University of Idaho students are likely using forensic genetic genealogy – by comparing DNA evidence to genealogical family databases, an expert said i…

nypost.com

 

[LasVegas702]

I think the police are waiting for the public interest to die down but something tells me it won’t with this crime. I think tik tok which has taken popularity the last couple of years has really highlight this case and it is being spoken about internationally not just in the US.

Which obviously is a good thing as we want the person /s found and justice for those poor kids.

I just saw this article and I looked at the date and it's from Nov 24 2022 and there are over 43,000 people on two subreddit about the Idaho murders about the case. It's like the Depp vs Heard trial but no trial

Idaho murders Reddit sleuth community tops 43,000 after frustrating Moscow police update

The Reddit subchannels MoscowMurders and IdahoMurders have amassed more than 43,000 members

news.yahoo.com

To be fair, the FBI has been helping them since early days from what I understand

I think the problem is probably the lack of evidence. They were probably hoping to go on circumstantial stuff in questioning but the father has ruined that. I would also think that all these rumours that the public keep coming out with and the American news seem to be picking up at times will make it harder too if that was their plan

If they do have DNA evidence, it’s not in the database. So I doubt it’s related to this random dude and the coroner

 

[Merpedy]

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The whole coroner thing seems like it’s being made a problem partly because people making theories have decided he’s a suspect at one point as they’re following the arrest records daily.

Coroners are apparently elected rather than chosen for their independence from potential criminals. Problem with the whole system but that’s for the Americans to take up an issue with

It honestly just feels like people want to be mad just to be mad with some stuff ‍♀

 

[LasVegas702]

So the neighbour has come forward to say they were woken up to screaming/shouting around 4am, they managed to record a bit of it. This video on tiktok plays the video where you can hear a girl scream ‘stop it’ ‘leave me alone’

after listening to this I really don’t understand how the other house mates didn’t wake up/hear it if the neighbours did?

it won’t let me link the tiktok vide but here’s a screenshot so you can find It if you want too

Trigger warning!

I just saw this video from this YouTube that is stating that recording is fake the video is 12 minutes long. This YouTuber said that someone in his discord found the original source of the lady that screamed in the audio.

 

[quinzel]

Some of the videos on TikTok are wild!

it’s crazy that there was bodycam footage so close to where the murders were likely happening at that very moment or soon before/after. You can even see the house in some shots. Eerie.

 

[teaandgoss101]

I heard that there is DNA evidence that is on all of the victims

I don't think that the coroner killed those 4 people btw. I think that a lot of people are just really surprised that she is also the defense attorney for a KILLER arrested a mile away from murders for stalking wife around house with a knife and his arrest was not related to the murders of the 4 college students.

Idaho student murders’ investigators likely comparing DNA evidence to FBI database

Authorities investigating the murders of four University of Idaho students are likely using forensic genetic genealogy – by comparing DNA evidence to genealogical family databases, an expert said i…

nypost.com

I think in the us it is pretty common for people in small towns to wear more than one hat? Not sure might watch to many American small town movies lol

 

[LasVegas702]

I think in the us it is pretty common for people in small towns to wear more than one hat? Not sure might watch to many American small town movies lol

okay I see your point. fair enough. thanks. I agree. I'm not watching any scary movies.

 

[LasVegas702]

I think in the us it is pretty common for people in small towns to wear more than one hat? Not sure might watch to many American small town movies lol

I just went and did some research okay I see what you mean. Fair enough.

 

[teaandgoss101]

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It is so crazy I don’t really understand the American law system it feels more complex than in the uk. Like here everyone has their distinct job.

 

[sassmaster3000]

I think in the us it is pretty common for people in small towns to wear more than one hat? Not sure might watch to many American small town movies lol

I am so dumb, I saw this comment and thought that there was some cctv footage of one person wearing multiple hats, and people finding that suspicious. Hahahah

 

[LasVegas702]

I think the police are waiting for the public interest to die down but something tells me it won’t with this crime. I think tik tok which has taken popularity the last couple of years has really highlight this case and it is being spoken about internationally not just in the US.

Which obviously is a good thing as we want the person /s found and justice for those poor kids.

the Police Chief got some FBI training back in 2019 which is really good it was a 10-week training course at the FBI National Academy, someone had mentioned it on reddit and they are guessing this may be how they have been able to clear people so fast.

and like some others have said that the FBI has been involved from the start so that's good.

https://dnews.com/local/police-chief-takes-advantage-of-a-once-in-a-lifetime-experience/article_57f2a9a4-a83d-54f9-9f8d-a3e6f57d30d0.html

It is so crazy I don’t really understand the American law system it feels more complex than in the uk. Like here everyone has their distinct job.

there were be a problem if someone was arrested for the murders of those 4 college students and she was their defense lawyer or trying to be their defense lawyer. but I don't think that the judge would allow something like that to happen in the US. The judge would probably but like no you can't represent that person. But also there is the Idaho Rules of Professional Conduct that the coroner since they are a lawyer has to follow. There is rules in there about Conflict of interest it's in the table of contents of from Idaho State Bar.

 

[GlassOfBeans]

@LasVegas702 Yes I saw those two articles! I’m glad the police are clamping down on harassment. I’ve followed this case on Reddit from the very beginning and what was posted on there in those first few days have come out to be true weeks later, is that what you meant by looking at early articles?

With the coroner also working on that other arrest, I think that rules out that it is related to the Idaho murders.

I listened to a recent interview with Chief James Fry and he said he regrets some of the miscommunication in the first few days but the important things were handled correctly, I’ll find the interview again and link it. I feel like he was alluding to the crime scene and collecting DNA. The knife would have been slippy with blood so there is potential for the killer to cut themselves and at least one of the victim had defence wounds so there is potential for DNA there and police said that they took fingernail clippings. I think the only thing that would hinder this would be how contaminated the scene was by the friends coming in to the house.

Also there have been big clues in the press releases from what the police DON’T say and the specific language used. For example, the friends were “summoned” over, they did not say called. The latest big clue is that they are looking for “the occupant(s)” of the white car, they did not say the owners of the car.

 

[Sazie1]

I still get a lot of videos about this case on tiktok. Now a lot about snapchat photos about the boyfriend of one of the surviving roommates

 

[GlassOfBeans]

“I wish I would have gotten out in front of this at a little bit sooner from the very beginning, I would have been doing some interviews and updating the public as fast as I could.”

“The small things in the beginning matter and we did the small things right. We knew we needed other resources and we locked down the residence and we did those things right. The things right at the beginning set you up for success.”

- Chief James Fry

Thursday Morning News Interview With Moscow Police Chief James Fry

Visit the post for more.

pullmanradio.com

 

[LasVegas702]

I still get a lot of videos about this case on tiktok. Now a lot about snapchat photos about the boyfriend of one of the surviving roommates

yeah I saw a YouTube video about one of them and they had some really interesting screenshots of him on I think it was during an IG live on the morning that murders happened around that time too and that same boyfriend claimed that he had never been to Moscow Idaho and was never going there ever. well okay. There is just so much going on with this case.

@LasVegas702 Yes I saw those two articles! I’m glad the police are clamping down on harassment. I’ve followed this case on Reddit from the very beginning and what was posted on there in those first few days have come out to be true weeks later, is that what you meant by looking at early articles?

With the coroner also working on that other arrest, I think that rules out that it is related to the Idaho murders.

I listened to a recent interview with Chief James Fry and he said he regrets some of the miscommunication in the first few days but the important things were handled correctly, I’ll find the interview again and link it. I feel like he was alluding to the crime scene and collecting DNA. The knife would have been slippy with blood so there is potential for the killer to cut themselves and at least one of the victim had defence wounds so there is potential for DNA there and police said that they took fingernail clippings. I think the only thing that would hinder this would be how contaminated the scene was by the friends coming in to the house.

Also there have been big clues in the press releases from what the police DON’T say and the specific language used. For example, the friends were “summoned” over, they did not say called. The latest big clue is that they are looking for “the occupant(s)” of the white car, they did not say the owners of the car.

oh wow, I didn't know that you had been following the case since the beginning. Yes that is what I'm talking about some of the articles that were published shortly after the murders have some details in them that just now main stream media are really talking about on the news like the front door being open at 8:30 am in the morning.

Good for Chief James Fry, I'm sure that he is doing all that he can.

I agree with you about the coroner, I think you right and the article did state that his arrest wasn't related to the murders of those college students.

the part of about friends were "summoned" over, I've heard some youtuber mentioning this lately. I jump in and out of live streams because some of these live streams are just too long for me to listen to all of them. yeah I saw that it said "the occupant(s) of the white car. I noticed that too but you're right they didn't say the owners of the car.