The Archie Battersbee case #17

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Tofino said:
It’s the ‘doctors shouldn’t play God’ comments that get me. The doctors were already ‘playing God’ by keeping the children alive with machines and their clinical expertise.

Leaving it to God these children would have died many weeks or months earlier.
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The IG case is worse as well as the selfish parents knew she had no chance at a life but went ahead with the pregnancy and birth anyway. IG suffered her whole life needlessly
 
gimm3more said:
The IG case is worse as well as the selfish parents knew she had no chance at a life but went ahead with the pregnancy and birth anyway. IG suffered her whole life needlessly
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They were fully aware of everything, same with their fundraising telling people on Facebook it was to get her to Italy, pay for care etc acting like they were going to fight for her under this "itallian citizenship", then when he went to court, he never mentioned it and when the judge commented on the fact that the Italian citizenship changed nothing he was basically like yeah I know and that was that, which is just another example of many of that father lying about intentions.


troutpout69 said:
I hate to say it, but why are the families that oppose the medical experts nearly always from chavvy, uneducated families! It’s like they’re too thick to really listen to what they’re being told or maybe they’re more of a target from these whacko pro life groups!
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IGs parents are from Ilkeston, same as me, it's bred into them round here. I moved away and when I came back a couple of months ago, within a week, I'd ended up going round a literal meth house to drag my mates ex out, the guy who lives there and sells and uses meth Is a bleeping paramedic. The place is full of scumbags and morons.
 
I might be wrong but I have a feeling that the way Molly Russell used social media was very similar to how Archie used it and that her death wasn't completely due to social media like people claim. They claim that Molly took her own life after viewing content about depression, suicide and self harm but they never say why she might have been looking at that stuff. Recently I found something that reminded me of Archie. Molly had set up a Twitter account with the name "Idfc_nomore" and had posted about having suicidal thoughts, including a post she tagged JK Rowling in saying how reading Harry Potter helped her escape from what she was feeling in real life. That really does remind me of Archie's "PainHub1679" TikTok account where he would post about his Mental state. I am not saying that social media posts can't effect people but I do think it should have been mentioned more about the reason why Molly might have been viewing posts like that and what she was writing on social media and why. I also found information that she would message influencers on Instagram asking for help. Is her death completely due to social media like people say, or was she a struggling child like Archie and the social media reason has been used to cover up what she was really going through in her final few months? How many more cases of child suicide are we going to have that end in " it was Instagram" or " it was TikTok?" instead of proper awareness of childhood depression and young suicide. Mental Health content exists online because people are struggling, a lot of people who seek out or attempt to access this content are also struggling. But the Mental Health aspect and the fact they were struggling is rarely spoken about.
 

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I am not surprised by this. I have always felt sorry for the medical professionals involved in these types of hospital cases. I am not surprised they are quitting in droves. They are doing what they are supposed to do, acting in the best interests of the child, as every professional who works with children should do. But during the time the child is in Hospital and after, the doctors are repeatedly abused and called murderers by the parents and this Christian group. These Christian groups need to be banned, I really don't know what they get out of prolonging a child's life support when they are already dead or dying and sending abuse to any doctor or court who disagrees or argues the child's true medical state. The worst thing is, they see nothing wrong about what they do.
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Starlight_100 said:
I am not surprised by this. I have always felt sorry for the medical professionals involved in these types of hospital cases. I am not surprised they are quitting in droves. They are doing what they are supposed to do, acting in the best interests of the child, as every professional who works with children should do. But during the time the child is in Hospital and after, the doctors are repeatedly abused and called murderers by the parents and this Christian group. These Christian groups need to be banned, I really don't know what they get out of prolonging a child's life support when they are already dead or dying and sending abuse to any doctor or court who disagrees or argues the child's true medical state. The worst thing is, they see nothing wrong about what they do.
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They are vultures swooping in to feed on the vulnerable, and you would be VERY vulnerable if your child is dying while you want and hope for a miracle.

I got very irritated with Hollie but these people just saw her as an opportunity to spread their vile prolonging of a child’s suffering in the name of Jesus, The sad thing is most Christian’s would recognise that when a doctor says “we can’t do any more” the view is genuine and has usually been discussed again and again. Hollie didn’t have the brain power or resilience to deal with that view, and these people exploited her and have done the same to others.

Meanwhile I am remaining disturbed to see her comments on my friend’s FB posts . i do not engage, and she says nothing about the road collision situation….probably because she is not allowed to.
 
Salted Caramel said:
As I can understand it, Lauren (Archie's sister) and a couple of other girls tried to beat up the new gf of her ex, but it resulted in the new gf (or another girl, it's hard to make out) smacking the tit out of them. For some reason (probably just chav drama) Lauren told her family it was a lad that was also there.

This resulted in Tom and his mate, and Hollie chasing the lad until he crashed his car. The rest you can work out from the papers.

Allegedly Tom and his "gang" have been threatening and intimidating witnesses and the lad who they attacked.

I would imagine that as a result of being arrested, the gruesome twosome (HD and TS) had their electronic devices and homes searched (I think Tom's fathers home was searched?) and a lot of other criminality has come to light, and the police are probably trying to put the entire case to the CPS.

There's probably a lot of stuff they want to charge him and his mother for. I just can't help but think they will throw the book at T but let H off the hook as she probably says she has PTSD or something. I bet the cops have been waiting for the opportunity to get this family tbh.
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A good starting point would be to sterilise the bloody lot of them,they all use their children as meal tickets!
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Rachel H14 said:
The facts the police teleased of the incident were that the victim was chased for over 15 miles by two cars. One car (driven by one of the males) forced the victims car off of the road and into a tree. The woman then drove her car into the victims car, causing further injuries to him.

It therefore wasn't a heat of the moment retaliation, but a an attack that gave the perpetrators plenty of time to consider their actions and stop. They chose to carry on, and there is no reasonable defence for the three's actions.

They may well have been arrested shortly after the event for GBH with Intent, but the CPS could well be considering more serious charges if the evidence is there to support them.
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Tom gets 5-7 years and becomes another prisoner`s biyaatch,HD gets 180 hours "community service"!
 
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