The Archie Battersbee case #17

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Salted Caramel said:
She's one of Hollies besties. Has an OnlyFans account and also a Tiktok which she posted Archie stuff on when he was in hospital, and also used his hashtag to just promote herself.

If you are curious about the OnlyFans, this is she...
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I was more curious about the whole road rage thing, as in who did what and why
thanks for sharing this though.
 
annie60 said:
Yes I’m aware of that.
I was curious about why , which some screenshots above show , but so much he said she said, I couldn’t quite work it out.
maybe sums up the type of family we are talking about.
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As I can understand it, Lauren (Archie's sister) and a couple of other girls tried to beat up the new gf of her ex, but it resulted in the new gf (or another girl, it's hard to make out) smacking the tit out of them. For some reason (probably just chav drama) Lauren told her family it was a lad that was also there.

This resulted in Tom and his mate, and Hollie chasing the lad until he crashed his car. The rest you can work out from the papers.

Allegedly Tom and his "gang" have been threatening and intimidating witnesses and the lad who they attacked.

I would imagine that as a result of being arrested, the gruesome twosome (HD and TS) had their electronic devices and homes searched (I think Tom's fathers home was searched?) and a lot of other criminality has come to light, and the police are probably trying to put the entire case to the CPS.

There's probably a lot of stuff they want to charge him and his mother for. I just can't help but think they will throw the book at T but let H off the hook as she probably says she has PTSD or something. I bet the cops have been waiting for the opportunity to get this family tbh.
 
Salted Caramel said:
As I can understand it, Lauren (Archie's sister) and a couple of other girls tried to beat up the new gf of her ex, but it resulted in the new gf (or another girl, it's hard to make out) smacking the tit out of them. For some reason (probably just chav drama) Lauren told her family it was a lad that was also there.

This resulted in Tom and his mate, and Hollie chasing the lad until he crashed his car. The rest you can work out from the papers.

Allegedly Tom and his "gang" have been threatening and intimidating witnesses and the lad who they attacked.

I would imagine that as a result of being arrested, the gruesome twosome (HD and TS) had their electronic devices and homes searched (I think Tom's fathers home was searched?) and a lot of other criminality has come to light, and the police are probably trying to put the entire case to the CPS.

There's probably a lot of stuff they want to charge him and his mother for. I just can't help but think they will throw the book at T but let H off the hook as she probably says she has PTSD or something. I bet the cops have been waiting for the opportunity to get this family tbh.
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Hope the scum get charged.

Its a shame people get totally abused and threatened like this. Bullied their way through Archie's hospital time and continued it.

I've met scum like tom and Hollie before not nice to deal with.

I hope pathetic pretend hard man Tom will meet some real hard men in prison.
 
Salted Caramel said:
As I can understand it, Lauren (Archie's sister) and a couple of other girls tried to beat up the new gf of her ex, but it resulted in the new gf (or another girl, it's hard to make out) smacking the tit out of them. For some reason (probably just chav drama) Lauren told her family it was a lad that was also there.

This resulted in Tom and his mate, and Hollie chasing the lad until he crashed his car. The rest you can work out from the papers.

Allegedly Tom and his "gang" have been threatening and intimidating witnesses and the lad who they attacked.

I would imagine that as a result of being arrested, the gruesome twosome (HD and TS) had their electronic devices and homes searched (I think Tom's fathers home was searched?) and a lot of other criminality has come to light, and the police are probably trying to put the entire case to the CPS.

There's probably a lot of stuff they want to charge him and his mother for. I just can't help but think they will throw the book at T but let H off the hook as she probably says she has PTSD or something. I bet the cops have been waiting for the opportunity to get this family tbh.
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Thank you for explaining. I just couldn’t work out from the he said, she said text I was reading.
bloody hell , they really will be in a load of trouble for that.
i Had thought previously , that maybe it was someone staking the family because of what happened, and that the family chased them because of that. So maybe they had some defence. It was only my guesswork and well off the mark.
cheers for explaining
 
annie60 said:
Thank you for explaining. I just couldn’t work out from the he said, she said text I was reading.
bloody hell , they really will be in a load of trouble for that.
i Had thought previously , that maybe it was someone staking the family because of what happened, and that the family chased them because of that. So maybe they had some defence. It was only my guesswork and well off the mark.
cheers for explaining
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Even if it was someone stalking them it would me no excuse for them to behave like vile scum.
 
annie60 said:
Thank you for explaining. I just couldn’t work out from the he said, she said text I was reading.
bloody hell , they really will be in a load of trouble for that.
i Had thought previously , that maybe it was someone staking the family because of what happened, and that the family chased them because of that. So maybe they had some defence. It was only my guesswork and well off the mark.
cheers for explaining
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The facts the police teleased of the incident were that the victim was chased for over 15 miles by two cars. One car (driven by one of the males) forced the victims car off of the road and into a tree. The woman then drove her car into the victims car, causing further injuries to him.

It therefore wasn't a heat of the moment retaliation, but a an attack that gave the perpetrators plenty of time to consider their actions and stop. They chose to carry on, and there is no reasonable defence for the three's actions.

They may well have been arrested shortly after the event for GBH with Intent, but the CPS could well be considering more serious charges if the evidence is there to support them.
 
NumptymeNumptyyou said:
Even if it was someone stalking them it would me no excuse for them to behave like vile scum.
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No , not at all. I was just thinking of a possible scenario.
Looks , exactly as lots have said, just general thuggish behaviour.
I bet the neighbours are well sick of it.
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Rachel H14 said:
The facts the police teleased of the incident were that the victim was chased for over 15 miles by two cars. One car (driven by one of the males) forced the victims car off of the road and into a tree. The woman then drove her car into the victims car, causing further injuries to him.

It therefore wasn't a heat of the moment retaliation, but a an attack that gave the perpetrators plenty of time to consider their actions and stop. They chose to carry on, and there is no reasonable defence for the three's actions.

They may well have been arrested shortly after the event for GBH with Intent, but the CPS could well be considering more serious charges if the evidence is there to support them.
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Absolutely shocking. They really do think they have their own rules.
 
troutpout69 said:
I hate to say it, but why are the families that oppose the medical experts nearly always from chavvy, uneducated families! It’s like they’re too thick to really listen to what they’re being told or maybe they’re more of a target from these whacko pro life groups!
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I wouldn't phrase it like that, but I do think there is an issue with people with a low degree of understanding of health and medical science being vulnerable to exploitation in these circumstances. But anyone can fall victim to it. A few years ago there was a spate of parents taking terminally ill children with aggressive brain cancers to a clinic in Texas with a "miracle cure" that was nothing of the sort (it was a drug, but an old one that didn't work, and they were pumped full of steroids to make it seem like they were improving). One family had a big fundraising campaign that was in the Guardian. They were not stupid, just desperate and taken in by marketing that was deliberately made to sound scientifically plausible.
 
MavisBeacon said:
I wouldn't phrase it like that, but I do think there is an issue with people with a low degree of understanding of health and medical science being vulnerable to exploitation in these circumstances. But anyone can fall victim to it. A few years ago there was a spate of parents taking terminally ill children with aggressive brain cancers to a clinic in Texas with a "miracle cure" that was nothing of the sort (it was a drug, but an old one that didn't work, and they were pumped full of steroids to make it seem like they were improving). One family had a big fundraising campaign that was in the Guardian. They were not stupid, just desperate and taken in by marketing that was deliberately made to sound scientifically plausible.
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It organisations like the "Christian Legal Centre" that fuel false hopes. Look at the list of terminally ill childrens' families they have represented in court. Hopeless cases in the main, but then, they have their own agenda, don't they?
 
Rachel H14 said:
It organisations like the "Christian Legal Centre" that fuel false hopes. Look at the list of terminally ill childrens' families they have represented in court. Hopeless cases in the main, but then, they have their own agenda, don't they?
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Yep. I also wish a journalist would properly follow the money. There has to be a financial angle. But it's hard to pitch stories about it as nobody wants to be seen as putting the boot into families that are desperately clinging on to hope, even if they're being ruthlessly exploited.
 
MavisBeacon said:
Yep. I also wish a journalist would properly follow the money. There has to be a financial angle. But it's hard to pitch stories about it as nobody wants to be seen as putting the boot into families that are desperately clinging on to hope, even if they're being ruthlessly exploited.
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This is such a great post. I couldn't agree more, I wish just one investigative journalist would have the balls to dig into these groups and the hospitals that offer to take these children.
 
maytoseptember said:
It’s no coincidence for sure.

On the one hand, they’re too thick to understand what they’re being told. On the other hand, they are very very against any form of authority, and in the end, it’s never about what’s best for their dying child, it’s about trying to get one over on the evil doctors who are trying to “kill” their child. Hence the sudden demands to have their child pass away at home when it would be very detrimental to the child to try to transport them home 🤷‍♀️
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With the recent IG case, I genuinely think that they had an ulterior motive with the demand to go home - as they weren't just asking for her to go home, they were insisting that if she goes home she should remain intubated and said extubation should take place after a few days. I think they would've tried to do a runner if they'd been allowed to have her home intubated as they couldn't provide that equipment themselves.

Tofino said:
It’s the ‘doctors shouldn’t play God’ comments that get me. The doctors were already ‘playing God’ by keeping the children alive with machines and their clinical expertise.

Leaving it to God these children would have died many weeks or months earlier.
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The God they only start claiming to believe in so they could use as leverage in court.
 
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