Teen mom USA (the next chapter) #4

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I don’t know how I missed it! Was it mtv that produced it? Didn’t Farrah and Simon go on it? 😂
They’ve had so many people on there over the years there’s been so many series 😭 it wasn’t mtv who made it though I’ve got vh1 in my head or some sort of channel like that. I’ll have to have another look online see where the uk has it lol I’m sure farrah did it and might have done a family one too with her crazy mother xx
 
She’s still in love with him
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It’s all very random how she went from one extreme to another isn’t it. Do you really think she still has feelings? Or is it pity and upset for her son? I really don’t know what to think. It makes me think in one way that she’s doing it for content on the show too which is terrible.

This is a weird one for me. I’ve always liked Maci but she stood firm for years even falling out with Jen and Larry about Ryan’s behaviour and now all of a sudden she’s supporting him? Unless the article has twisted her words somehow. Net Taylor is absolutely fuming about it they’ve been on the same page for years
 
It’s all very random how she went from one extreme to another isn’t it. Do you really think she still has feelings? Or is it pity and upset for her son? I really don’t know what to think. It makes me think in one way that she’s doing it for content on the show too which is terrible.

100% for content. She has nothing else to bring to the table. She already has exhausted the shooting incident, she doesn’t plan to have more kids and she’s already spoke in detail about health issues. It’s all she had left.
 
I think she still loves him but has a lot of self respect, and wouldn’t tolerate the behaviour. I thought she was so brave and mature during their relationship breakdown despite being heartbroken.
I think she still has feelings as this has all come around since he ended things with McKenzie. She couldn’t have acted like this while they were together but is seizing the chance now and they’re even joking together at M’s expense now. Ryan was her storyline when she “hated” him and what he was up to so she wouldn’t need to like and support him to have a storyline
 
I don’t see Maci loving him at all. Like another poster said she has literally nothing else to show

I agree she’s moved on and doesn’t have any pull towards him. I’d be disappointed if she was using this for money and a reason to stay in the show. I always viewed her as being like Chelsea, a family woman who can look after her own without needing tm
 
First love and the family unit people wish they could provide for their first born is the reason why I feel she still holds love for Ryan.
 
I always see stuff about Maci apparently being an alcoholic.. maybe this is where the sympathy is coming from? Sounds like a reach but seen so much about how she drinks everyday!
 
I went and read the article to see why she actually does support Ryan now and it’s cos Bentley said the way she treats Ryan affects his relationship with his dad. So I guess she feels like she has to support him no matter what now. Must be frustrating for Taylor but they are private people aside from the Ryan storyline so I guess we will never find out truly about marriage troubles and drinking issues
 
I went and read the article to see why she actually does support Ryan now and it’s cos Bentley said the way she treats Ryan affects his relationship with his dad. So I guess she feels like she has to support him no matter what now. Must be frustrating for Taylor but they are private people aside from the Ryan storyline so I guess we will never find out truly about marriage troubles and drinking issues
I agree here. Its all too easy to assume this and that. But she said she was boiling mad at the suggestion that Bentley said to her. But she has always maintained that Bentley should have a relationship with his Dad. Whether Ryan was interested or not.
Yes this could put a strain on her marriage to Taylor but the know really what is going on. As for the drinking well we've seen them many times drinking on the show but does that make them alcoholics?
 
I agree here. Its all too easy to assume this and that. But she said she was boiling mad at the suggestion that Bentley said to her. But she has always maintained that Bentley should have a relationship with his Dad. Whether Ryan was interested or not.
Yes this could put a strain on her marriage to Taylor but the know really what is going on. As for the drinking well we've seen them many times drinking on the show but does that make them alcoholics?

I have seen a discussion on her drinking habits but personally just seeing them have a beer a few times so unless there’s something I’ve missed I don’t think they drink excessively.
 
I have seen a discussion on her drinking habits but personally just seeing them have a beer a few times so unless there’s something I’ve missed I don’t think they drink excessively.

Agree. Alcoholism is always visible on people's faces too. She generally looks healthy and fresh, never slurs her words on camera, never cries off filming sick.
Id say she's been seen in a few shots with a beer during the day and someone has made the reach that means she has a problem.
 
Agree. Alcoholism is always visible on people's faces too. She generally looks healthy and fresh, never slurs her words on camera, never cries off filming sick.
Id say she's been seen in a few shots with a beer during the day and someone has made the reach that means she has a problem.
Exactly. A few bottles of beer especially someone lighter alcohol % ain't gonna mean you are an alcoholic no matter where you are in the world. Plus drinking generally ages you. If that was against MTVs ideals then they would be banned and no shoeing anyone going in a bar. Just boring coffee shops they tend to film in
 
Maci and Taylor both regularly drink light beer. I don’t seem mentions of him being an alcoholic, just her. I think maybe the (American) audience aren’t used to seeing a woman causally drink bottled beer on tv. I don’t see any signs of her having a problem in her behaviour etc. She has 3 kids, runs 2 businesses, coaches a sports team and films for TM…there’s never been any signs of intoxication or problems like not being able to film due erratic behaviour.

I see her issues with Ryan differently. In earlier series she was expressing a lot of concern about his drug use and that his family were ignoring it. She was worried about Ryan specially because of the danger of a heroin overdose and Bentley losing his father, plus although she trusted his grandparents to lol after his safety generally she had concerns that any lapse in their judgement due to how they pander to their son could put her child in danger. Her expressing these concerns publicly is what caused the major fall-out. They were all on fairly good terms before that.

Why Jen/Larry/Mackenzie were so angry isn’t actually clear…because it seemed like a king it public is what got Ryan into rehab the first time, and once it was in the open they all talked about it on camera. When Ryan completed rehab Maci was not convinced he was staying clean…he would not consent to any drug testing. On camera it also wasn’t obvious by his demeanour either way. Her relationship with their entire family never recovered.

He was clearly using heavily for a significant period before his overdose and second stint in rehab, meaning Maci had to be concerned for Bentley’s safety around him. She never stopped him from doing things like attending his sports games, it appears she always made either his or the grandparents aware of those opportunities.

I think Maci’s ‘love’ for Ryan is all about ensuring Bentley does have to go through the heartbreak of losing his father. I don’t think she has any specific feelings for him herself, however as the situation has been going on for their entire marriage, it clearly could be putting strain on her relationship with Taylor.

The person in that family I feel sad for is Jen. She appears to be constantly doing her best and is very loyal. Unfortunately she has mothered Ryan too much enabling his problems, and her love for her grandson getting into a situation of being the co-parent has put her in harm’s way because she to an extent lost that when things went wrong and also with Bentley growing up and not wanting to be with his grandparents every weekend. If anyone is an alcoholic, I’d put money on Larry having a problem. There are scenes where he is showing an underlying short temper, erratic emotions and he has the red face of either a medical or alcohol issue. There was an episode where Maci mentioned that Larry was being erratic at Bentley’s sports game which upset him…she said he was screaming at him and climbing onto a fence. I think Jen has no idea what she has done wrong and why she is in this situation, she has genuinely tried to do her best for her family. However if we look at how Maci has raised Bentley…he has been raised quite strictly, doing chores, high expectations for schoolwork, enrolled and encouraged in a lot of sports. I think she is making sure history doesn’t repeat itself and has observed how Ryan was raised and is doing the opposite. Bentley isn’t going to get time or opportunity to go off the rails, and isn’t going to get an easy ride if he chooses not to work like Ryan did.
 
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