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Claymorekick said:
This tweet sums it up for me - he had checked out and there was a distinct lack of emotion from him. Maybe his way of coping but it was 3 years of his life!

Still disappointed that they did not do the NSync dance they rehearsed in season 2!
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That sums it up for me too. I spent the whole episode wondering if Ted had always been an emotional blank space. Feel like I’m pissing on everyone’s chips, but I don’t think this series filled its true potential. Lots of storylines that didn’t seem to go anywhere and the only part I was really moved by was when they all fished the pieces of the Believe sign out of their kit. And I’m only disappointed because I loved the first two series so much.
 
FrannyGallops said:
That sums it up for me too. I spent the whole episode wondering if Ted had always been an emotional blank space. Feel like I’m pissing on everyone’s chips, but I don’t think this series filled its true potential. Lots of storylines that didn’t seem to go anywhere and the only part I was really moved by was when they all fished the pieces of the Believe sign out of their kit. And I’m only disappointed because I loved the first two series so much.
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Sadly, I feel exactly the same. I saw it out to the end, partly out of loyalty and partly in hope of a return to form, but this series was very disappointing. The characterisation was paper-thin and unconvincing, too many silly plot lines that were never fully developed, too many ham-fisted ‘the moral of this week’s episode is …’ speeches.
Perhaps the covid delays and JS’s personal problems caused it to lose some of its momentum and spark, but I see there was also a shift in the writing team too, and that really showed. Why bring inexperienced writers in to the closing series of an established show?

That said, the final episode was worth it for the epic shitness of CGI Stonehenge 🤣
 
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The third series problems are all to do with Jason Sudeikis thinking he can show run and edit a successful show as well as someone like Bill Lawrence, who is very experienced and has had many good half hour comedies. He is responsible for the script changes, the rewrites, the clumsy political and social commentary at times, the lack of editing and the meandering feel that has fundamentally changed some of the characters. I don’t care he left.
I have continued watching for Rebecca, Jamie even Nate’s arc. Higgins and Barbara were completely underused. Keeley and Roy were basically messed up as characters. I enjoyed the ending, but it was a mess overall this season and I think JS will take his emmys and go on to undeserved further changes. If it continued the weaknesses would be even more exposed.
Honestly the Americans were the weak links.
 
Vanelope said:
The third series problems are all to do with Jason Sudeikis thinking he can show run and edit a successful show as well as someone like Bill Lawrence, who is very experienced and has had many good half hour comedies. He is responsible for the script changes, the rewrites, the clumsy political and social commentary at times, the lack of editing and the meandering feel that has fundamentally changed some of the characters. I don’t care he left.
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Not to mention that hiring your girlfriend, who has zero TV writing experience, as a writer on the show is an unbelievably stupid move.

I wonder if the shift to longer episodes is part of the problem too, as they had twice as much time to fill so spent too much time veering off on side stories and mawkish homilies?

Edit: yes, Barbara - why bring Katy Wix in then only give her about ten lines in the entire series? And no characterisation beyond ‘not fluffy/girlie’ and ‘collects snow globes’ 🫤
 
ButtonDownTheHutches said:
Not to mention that hiring your girlfriend, who has zero TV writing experience, as a writer on the show is an unbelievably stupid
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What?! Is that Jason Sudeikis’ gf?! Wow.
Vanelope said:
I have continued watching for Rebecca, Jamie even Nate’s arc. Higgins and Barbara were completely underused. Keeley and Roy were basically messed up as characters. I enjoyed the ending, but it was a mess overall this season and I think JS will take his emmys and go on to undeserved further changes. If it continued the weaknesses would be even more exposed.
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I didn’t like Keeley this season at all and in a show about completely unbelievable things, Nate going from mild mannered to evil and villainous then back to meek and mild was the most unbelievable (or at least the way the show portrayed it was).

I’ve seen it suggested on Twitter that they might carry on with a S4 without Ted, and I’d be totally onboard with that if they went back to better writers and tightened things up. Or maybe a series focusing on Roy and Jamie (without Keeley).
 
FrannyGallops said:
What?! Is that Jason Sudeikis’ gf?! Wow.
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Yep, Keeley Hazell: former glamour model, and played Bex in TL, but was also a writer on series 3. She formerly had a sex tape leaked, and apparently ‘wrote’ the episode in which the same happens to her namesake (presumably why we were bashed over the head by the incredibly realistic scene in which a dressing room full of premiership footballers ruefully reflect on their past indiscrete behaviour towards women, and then dutifully and en masse delete all compromising material from their phones). Had a brief fling with JS, but it was over by the time of the season 3 premiere
 
ButtonDownTheHutches said:
Yep, Keeley Hazell: former glamour model, and played Bex in TL, but was also a writer on series 3. She formerly had a sex tape leaked, and apparently ‘wrote’ the episode in which the same happens to her namesake (presumably why we were bashed over the head by the incredibly realistic scene in which a dressing room full of premiership footballers ruefully reflect on their past indiscrete behaviour towards women, and then dutifully and en masse delete all compromising material from their phones). Had a brief fling with JS, but it was over by the time of the season 3 premiere
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God yes, I cringe at that whole scene - there were definitely some scenes this season which were just 'off' 🙄
 
It definitely dipped in quality this season and only really recovered towards the end but some comments have pointed out some flaws that I was probably too sentimental to notice.

The whole Keely storyline was not great this season and could just be cut completely without anybody noticing. A change in writers could explain things.

Ted still seems depressed at the end or emotionally checked out, I didn’t get the feeling he was happy to be going home
 
Agree with other commenters criticisms. I remember reading articles about how this season was delayed because Jason was demanding rewrites, wonder how it was originally meant to go. Dr Sharon was supposedly in it more when they announced the cast too
 
Vanelope said:
The third series problems are all to do with Jason Sudeikis thinking he can show run and edit a successful show as well as someone like Bill Lawrence, who is very experienced and has had many good half hour comedies. He is responsible for the script changes, the rewrites, the clumsy political and social commentary at times, the lack of editing and the meandering feel that has fundamentally changed some of the characters. I don’t care he left.
I have continued watching for Rebecca, Jamie even Nate’s arc. Higgins and Barbara were completely underused. Keeley and Roy were basically messed up as characters. I enjoyed the ending, but it was a mess overall this season and I think JS will take his emmys and go on to undeserved further changes. If it continued the weaknesses would be even more exposed.
Honestly the Americans were the weak links.
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I agree the writing was weak and I think that really showed most in the confusion over the last bit of the Rebecca/Dutch man boat scene.

I know people were saying if anything happened we’d have seen but take the last few episodes - we didn’t see Ted break the news to Rebecca, we didn’t see Nate actually resign (just the moment that he obviously decided to), we never got firm answers about Roy/Jamie/Keeley, we didn’t see what happened with Bex and the other woman in Rebecca’s office… they don’t show a lot of things so when something is written badly/vaguely and we often don’t see things, it’s on the writers when people jump to other conclusions IMO. The hiding only works when you then make it clear what happened (or you’re intentionally misleading for a twist) - eg Nate resigning.
 
CabalofBolorneaise said:
I agree the writing was weak and I think that really showed most in the confusion over the last bit of the Rebecca/Dutch man boat scene.

I know people were saying if anything happened we’d have seen but take the last few episodes - we didn’t see Ted break the news to Rebecca, we didn’t see Nate actually resign (just the moment that he obviously decided to), we never got firm answers about Roy/Jamie/Keeley, we didn’t see what happened with Bex and the other woman in Rebecca’s office… they don’t show a lot of things so when something is written badly/vaguely and we often don’t see things, it’s on the writers when people jump to other conclusions IMO. The hiding only works when you then make it clear what happened (or you’re intentionally misleading for a twist) - eg Nate resigning.
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Yes this!! Like those are the conversations that make the show, the sad moments and then a witty comment to pull you back into the comedy or the show. The more I think about it the more I’m quite disappointed with the overall quality of this season. We just started watching season 2 again and it’s totally different, has a better pace for a start
 
CabalofBolorneaise said:
I agree the writing was weak and I think that really showed most in the confusion over the last bit of the Rebecca/Dutch man boat scene.

I know people were saying if anything happened we’d have seen but take the last few episodes - we didn’t see Ted break the news to Rebecca, we didn’t see Nate actually resign (just the moment that he obviously decided to), we never got firm answers about Roy/Jamie/Keeley, we didn’t see what happened with Bex and the other woman in Rebecca’s office… they don’t show a lot of things so when something is written badly/vaguely and we often don’t see things, it’s on the writers when people jump to other conclusions IMO. The hiding only works when you then make it clear what happened (or you’re intentionally misleading for a twist) - eg Nate resigning.
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You are spot on with this 🙂 I wonder if Jason Sudeikis had 'checked out' during this season and that has been reflected in the production/scripts etc.

Just saw a quote from Hannah W about thanking JS for changing her and her daughter's life - really sweet and emotional!
 
Claymorekick said:
You are spot on with this 🙂 I wonder if Jason Sudeikis had 'checked out' during this season and that has been reflected in the production/scripts etc.

Just saw a quote from Hannah W about thanking JS for changing her and her daughter's life - really sweet and emotional!
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Good point about him checking out - would this have been around the time he and Olivia Wilde were having issues? Or even the whole Harry Styles debacle?
 
I’m on season 2. Don’t think it’s as good as season 1, not so many laugh out loud moments especially with Roy character. I just watched the beard after dark episode and honestly I was waiting for it to finish it was awful
 
Brendan Hunt did a Reddit AMA tonight and amongst other things confirmed that the rewrites were exaggerated in the press (shocking).

Also the writing staff was for the most part the same people, and although Keeley Hazell wrote the episode about the sex tape leak it's unfair to blame everything on her - it was a co-write with another new writer plus it's a writer's room, the person/people writing the episode does the broad strokes but the whole team tweak and sign off on the final thing.
 

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