Taylor Swift #28 In my heart is a Christmas tree farm

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JLXRD said:
In terms of all her friends being wealthy, what about Abigail? Is she also wealthy? Does Taylor pay for a lot of her stuff? Admittedly I know v little about Abigail…
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According to LinkedIn Abigail is the Chief of Staff for Corporate Development at a tech company, so I wager she makes good money, maybe even well into the 6 figures a year but not Taylor's kind of good money.
 
QueenBW said:
According to LinkedIn Abigail is the Chief of Staff for Corporate Development at a tech company, so I wager she makes good money, maybe even well into the 6 figures a year but not Taylor's kind of good money.
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Interesting… I still imagine when they go out for food Taylor just covers it?

She also credits Abigail for Fifteen being her story I suppose so I wonder if she gives her any of the income from that song?

Idk I feel like if I had a long time bestie from before I was so wealthy, I would want to give them nice things like vacations and stuff? So I wonder if she does.
 
JLXRD said:
Interesting… I still imagine when they go out for food Taylor just covers it?

She also credits Abigail for Fifteen being her story I suppose so I wonder if she gives her any of the income from that song?

Idk I feel like if I had a long time bestie from before I was so wealthy, I would want to give them nice things like vacations and stuff? So I wonder if she does.
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Abigail's been Taylor's date to award shows and she's been in photos with like Gigi Hadid and Selena Gomez at parties Taylor has thrown. So I think Taylor does include her in a bunch of things and gives her access to events she wouldn't have without her. I could also see her footing the bill most of the time or all of the time. But also from Abigail's side I can imagine also wanting to pay for some things and show your friend you're there for her, not for her money or the cool events.
 
QueenBW said:
Abigail's been Taylor's date to award shows and she's been in photos with like Gigi Hadid and Selena Gomez at parties Taylor has thrown. So I think Taylor does include her in a bunch of things and gives her access to events she wouldn't have without her. I could also see her footing the bill most of the time or all of the time. But also from Abigail's side I can imagine also wanting to pay for some things and show your friend you're there for her, not for her money or the cool events.
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Agreed, I would also but I think she’s probably more trustworthy in that sense as she was there before Taylor got big anyway?

Taylor’s so obscenely wealthy that I would imagine it becomes a bit silly to pay for her, as her friend?

It’s not the same level in any way but i have a friendship group of 2 besties, me and one of them earn pretty well, and our other friend earns quite a low salary. We cover her sometimes as we want her to do things with us and really don’t allow her to do it the other way as it feels silly when we can easily cover stuff… i imagine it’s a bit like that I suppose but on a mega level ha
 
I have to say, the closer we get to any sort of rep tv, the more I’m actually concerned the re-records won’t be as good as the originals for that album. Rep was always my album in terms of it getting me through hard times and given speak now and 1989 having a few questionable choice re-records, I guess I’m just nervous?? I don’t know. Anyone else feel that way?
 
electricmallows said:
I have to say, the closer we get to any sort of rep tv, the more I’m actually concerned the re-records won’t be as good as the originals for that album. Rep was always my album in terms of it getting me through hard times and given speak now and 1989 having a few questionable choice re-records, I guess I’m just nervous?? I don’t know. Anyone else feel that way?
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Yes! I'm in the same state. Those vault tracks though... I need them immediately🖤
 
electricmallows said:
I have to say, the closer we get to any sort of rep tv, the more I’m actually concerned the re-records won’t be as good as the originals for that album. Rep was always my album in terms of it getting me through hard times and given speak now and 1989 having a few questionable choice re-records, I guess I’m just nervous?? I don’t know. Anyone else feel that way?
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Absolutely. I’m worried that in her haste to rewrite history and prove she’s ‘totally over’ Joe she‘ll cut any vault love songs and they’ll all be LWYMMD-esque revenge songs 😩
 
Someone send this to Taylor please. I can’t believe Travis got airtime in her Time piece. He’s a blow in and instead of concentrating on what’s important- her career it seemed like she spent a lot of time reframing 2016 and writing Joe out. It’s pathetic.



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Chinese_whispers said:
Someone send this to Taylor please. I can’t believe Travis got airtime in her Time piece. He’s a blow in and instead of concentrating on what’s important- her career it seemed like she spent a lot of time reframing 2016 and writing Joe out. It’s pathetic.



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We need to start a “Taylor please for the love of God get therapy” petition
 
Chinese_whispers said:
Someone send this to Taylor please. I can’t believe Travis got airtime in her Time piece. He’s a blow in and instead of concentrating on what’s important- her career it seemed like she spent a lot of time reframing 2016 and writing Joe out. It’s pathetic.



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Imagine letting a man you have known for ten mins feature so heavily on what is a significant piece about You.
Also Taylor, knowing someone for two/three months is nothing!
 
MidnightAura said:
Imagine letting a man you have known for ten mins feature so heavily on what is a significant piece about You.
Also Taylor, knowing someone for two/three months is nothing!
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seriously! She’s been in a significant long term relationship now, she should know how piss easy the first 2/3 months are compared to long game. It’s nothing in the grand scheme of things! It’s not a “significant amount of time” to know someone.

therapy in 2024 🙏
 
Chinese_whispers said:
seriously! She’s been in a significant long term relationship now, she should know how piss easy the first 2/3 months are compared to long game. It’s nothing in the grand scheme of things! It’s not a “significant amount of time” to know someone.

therapy in 2024 🙏
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Honestly, I’m half expecting her to come out and say she wasn’t with Joe that long, he was just her roommate when she moved to the foreign country since she is rewriting history and The Breeder Man is her new leading man in her narrative.
 
Tiggerhappy said:
I get where you're coming from, but maybe her work wouldn't be as good if she was in therapy.

There's a reason for the expression 'tortured artist". Who wants their artistes to be well balanced, considered and mentally stable? I think we need a bit of chaos.
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I did kind of wonder whether she’s afraid her emotional songwriting would be affected if she had therapy and that’s why she avoids it, which is so sad if true
 
MidnightAura said:
Imagine letting a man you have known for ten mins feature so heavily on what is a significant piece about You.
Also Taylor, knowing someone for two/three months is nothing!
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Honestly, I can’t believe no one was like hey girl maybe this isn’t the best look for your brand to be dickmatized to the point of elevating some dude in a major article celebrating you and how impactful you are.
 
Tiggerhappy said:
I get where you're coming from, but maybe her work wouldn't be as good if she was in therapy.

There's a reason for the expression 'tortured artist". Who wants their artistes to be well balanced, considered and mentally stable? I think we need a bit of chaos.
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I also find it very reductionist that someone’s flaws can easily be solved with “therapy”. As if Taylor’s personality is something that needs fixing, not who she is as a person?

I find the term “therapy” also a bit confusing - there are many different types of therapy, that all serve a different purpose.

Not sniping at anyone, just my thoughts. I work in mental health and I just hate seeing “just go to therapy” bandied around as a cure for everything when people are more complex than that.
 
Tiggerhappy said:
I get where you're coming from, but maybe her work wouldn't be as good if she was in therapy.

There's a reason for the expression 'tortured artist". Who wants their artistes to be well balanced, considered and mentally stable? I think we need a bit of chaos.
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I'm sure she believes that and is part of the reticence but that whole tortured artist thing is nonsense and just harmful to creatives. You don't need to remain in pain forever to write about pain, just like you don't need to be in love forever (which is impossible) to write about love.

And she herself has proven that her art can be great even when she is in a period of emotionak stability (hi Folklore and Evermore). She's experienced pain and lows and betrayal, she can continue to draw from that experience. There's no need to stay fucked up. Not to mention, if your mental health is the price of your art, even if your art made you a billionaire, it's too high a price, imo.
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ChilliBean said:
I also find it very reductionist that someone’s flaws can easily be solved with “therapy”. As if Taylor’s personality is something that needs fixing, not who she is as a person?

I find the term “therapy” also a bit confusing - there are many different types of therapy, that all serve a different purpose.

Not sniping at anyone, just my thoughts. I work in mental health and I just hate seeing “just go to therapy” bandied around as a cure for everything when people are more complex than that.
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I've taken several mental health courses for work but I'm not a counselor, psychiatrist or therapist but one thing is a personality and another thing is a pattern. No one's saying she should go to therapy for her personality. Not letting yourself be single is not a personality trait. Fixating on relationships to the point where you shoehorn in a guy you've been dating for 2/3 months into an interview for one of the biggest career accolades isn't a personality trait.

Through her songs, through her interviews, through her Miss Americana docu she has spoken about past trauma that she hasn't let go of, that still affects her (wanting to fit in and changing her personality just to do so because young age rejection for example), about her disordered eating, about how extremely depressed she was post Kanye. She could actually benefit from therapy. What type of therapy is hard to say and could be different for different issues so it's not like we can fully diagnose her from here. But I do believe she'd be mentally healthier and stronger with some better coping mechanisms.
 
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ChilliBean said:
I also find it very reductionist that someone’s flaws can easily be solved with “therapy”. As if Taylor’s personality is something that needs fixing, not who she is as a person?

I find the term “therapy” also a bit confusing - there are many different types of therapy, that all serve a different purpose.

Not sniping at anyone, just my thoughts. I work in mental health and I just hate seeing “just go to therapy” bandied around as a cure for everything when people are more complex than that.
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I honestly think we need some sort of [therapy] hidden button because I’m really bored of the discussion but the thread is so peaceful right now I've been trying to just scroll past 😂

Many people have speculated whether Taylor is ND, whilst therapy can still be helpful it really isn’t a miracle fix.
She mentioned once about 4 or 5 years ago that she didn’t need therapy, at the time she was probably in the happiest healthiest relationship she’s ever been in so would have felt stable, we don’t know she hasn’t had it since then and just saying ‘well her actions don’t reflect that she has’ doesn’t mean anything when we don’t really know the proper timelines in her relationships.

Me rail - as someone with ND who has also experienced a lot of trauma, therapy in your 30s can help but it’s not going to fix you as a person or undo what’s already happened.
 
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