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Sheeeet said:
I think crossed out as well, which gives Ken the motivation to now kill his Dad (again) post death.

Someone elsewhere managed to capture the text of the letter, amazingly
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To my executors and family,

The following is a record of additions and clarifications to be added to my official letter of wishes in the event of my passing:

I have created this record to provide my executor and family with information they will need after my death. It includes financial and personal information that will be needed to settle certain affairs … preferences and suggestions for arrangements that must be made. I hope this record will help make a difficult time easier for my family.

It is my preference that the title and role of CEO should be bestowed upon my son, K͟e͟n͟d͟a͟l͟l͟ L͟o͟g̲a͟n͟ R̶o̶y̶

Regarding my funeral arrangements: my funeral and burial are to take place in accordance with the customs and practices of the Roman Catholic Church.

My preferred hymns:

Amazing Grace, Abide With Me, Here I Am, Lord, I Watch the Sunrise Lighting the Sky, The Lord’s My Shepard (Psalm 23)

I wish to be buried with the attached copy of my sister Rose’s photograph placed in … and one of my wife, Marcia in my right hand chest pocket.

I would like to change the epitaph on my headstone from that set out in my …

| “Truthful lips, endure forever, the lying tongue lasts only a moment.” Proverbs 12:19. | ★

Leave my head of security, Colin Stiles, my Rolex Daytona Lapis …

Regarding personal assets, include the following: I advise that … should remain in a secured facility indefinitely, and … family … unnecessary financial complications … collection of Impressionism paintings and … Switzerland.

Sincerely yours, Logan Roy.

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Handwritten Addendums. Greg?

My interpretation:

Nrpi

Re… antiquities

Journalism school?

Greg?
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If Colin doesn't sell the Rolex Daytona Lapis, it's worth over 3 million dollars!
 
Sheeeet said:
I think crossed out as well, which gives Ken the motivation to now kill his Dad (again) post death.

Someone elsewhere managed to capture the text of the letter, amazingly
_________________________________________

To my executors and family,

The following is a record of additions and clarifications to be added to my official letter of wishes in the event of my passing:

I have created this record to provide my executor and family with information they will need after my death. It includes financial and personal information that will be needed to settle certain affairs … preferences and suggestions for arrangements that must be made. I hope this record will help make a difficult time easier for my family.

It is my preference that the title and role of CEO should be bestowed upon my son, K͟e͟n͟d͟a͟l͟l͟ L͟o͟g̲a͟n͟ R̶o̶y̶

Regarding my funeral arrangements: my funeral and burial are to take place in accordance with the customs and practices of the Roman Catholic Church.

My preferred hymns:

Amazing Grace, Abide With Me, Here I Am, Lord, I Watch the Sunrise Lighting the Sky, The Lord’s My Shepard (Psalm 23)

I wish to be buried with the attached copy of my sister Rose’s photograph placed in … and one of my wife, Marcia in my right hand chest pocket.

I would like to change the epitaph on my headstone from that set out in my …

| “Truthful lips, endure forever, the lying tongue lasts only a moment.” Proverbs 12:19. | ★

Leave my head of security, Colin Stiles, my Rolex Daytona Lapis …

Regarding personal assets, include the following: I advise that … should remain in a secured facility indefinitely, and … family … unnecessary financial complications … collection of Impressionism paintings and … Switzerland.

Sincerely yours, Logan Roy.

——

Handwritten Addendums. Greg?

My interpretation:

Nrpi

Re… antiquities

Journalism school?

Greg?
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Thank you, I’d been meaning to try to find a copy of the full text somewhere.

I love the ‘Greg?’ bit as this feeds nicely into my theory that Greg will ultimately prevail - he’s got even more ammo now that Tom asked him to double-delete some files the minute Logan’s heart stopped, and he’s certainly pushing himself forward.
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chocolatepeaches said:
If Colin doesn't sell the Rolex Daytona Lapis, it's worth over 3 million dollars!
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So glad he remembered Colin in his will ☺️
 
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I am very conflicted as to whether Tom’s speech to Shiv on the stairs was genuinely heartfelt, or whether he’s playing her as he now realises he picked the wrong team when he sided with Logan 🫤
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How far on are we from the start of the first series? Is each series roughly a year? If so, that piece of paper could date from around the start of season 1, when Greg first arrived on the scene and Logan haven’t yet seen much of him beyond the family connection.
 
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ButtonDownTheHutches said:
I am very conflicted as to whether Tom’s speech to Shiv on the stairs was genuinely heartfelt, or whether he’s playing her as he now realises he picked the wrong team when he sided with Logan 🫤
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I think he genuinely loves her, it might be tied up with his ambition but I think she has wrecked him by being an absolute tit to him, starting from the wedding night.

I think his warning Logan in Italy was an extension of his speech to Ken that he'd never seen Logan come off worse, he judged that the sibs would likely duck the company up for the same reasons Logan thought. I'm still not sure if Shiv told Tom she knew what Tom did there.
 
ButtonDownTheHutches said:
I am very conflicted as to whether Tom’s speech to Shiv on the stairs was genuinely heartfelt, or whether he’s playing her as he now realises he picked the wrong team when he sided with Logan 🫤
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How far on are we from the start of the first series? Is each series roughly a year? If so, that piece of paper could date from around the start of season 1, when Greg first arrived on the scene and Logan haven’t yet seen much of him beyond the family connection.
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I think we are maybe a year and a little on from S1 - which is crazy to think in succession world Shiv and Tom have only been married for a year
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This article is a good guide
www.vulture.com

Wait, How Much Time Has Passed on Succession?

It’s Logan’s birthday again, but how much older is he?
www.vulture.com www.vulture.com

s1 takes place over six months
S2 picks up 48 hours after s1, lasts around five months
S3 picks up right after S2, lasts about four months
 
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ls240898 said:
I think we are maybe a year and a little on from S1 - which is crazy to think in succession world Shiv and Tom have only been married for a year
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This article is a good guide
www.vulture.com

Wait, How Much Time Has Passed on Succession?

It’s Logan’s birthday again, but how much older is he?
www.vulture.com www.vulture.com

s1 takes place over six months
S2 picks up 48 hours after s1, lasts around five months
S3 picks up right after S2, lasts about four months
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Thanks - I had completely lost track and didn’t realise the timescale was so tight!
 
Things I'm still thinking about:
- Shiv having to accept that no amount of pinstripe can disguise that she's a woman in a man's world. Her pregnancy. Her and Tom's origin story. (Handwritten letters? France??) Her fall down the steps after the CEO announcement. Excruciating episode for her.
- The return of Marcia! Particularly Marcia and Willa's interaction - especially when remembering their conversation in S1
- Kerry in genuine grief and dropping the bag....and the fact she uses Fenty Beauty
- Frank and Ken in the library 💕
- Ken re-establishing himself as the 'killer' his father would expect him to be (wasn't sure if the S4 poster was hinting at this or a Ken demise...maybe it will be both in the end)
 
Walkthehemline said:
Things I'm still thinking about:
- Shiv having to accept that no amount of pinstripe can disguise that she's a woman in a man's world. Her pregnancy. Her and Tom's origin story. (Handwritten letters? France??) Her fall down the steps after the CEO announcement. Excruciating episode for her.
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Indeed. Last night’s episode really highlighted how peripheral women are to the ‘serious’ end of proceedings: Willa is essentially ‘Pretty Woman’ writ large, Kerry is the trash that gets taken out the back door, Marcia’s presence was a surprise as many characters/viewers assumed she’d been dumped for good, Conor’s mum was long-since asylum-ed out of view like a character in a Victorian melodrama, Harriet Walter (can’t remember her character name - Lady Caroline?) is barely ever mentioned (aside from Shiv saying last week that she’d have rather she died than Logan), Gerri has been undermined by the dick pic, and Shiv was elbowed aside quite decisively, and that’s even before her pregnancy is common knowledge.


It’s not an especially welcoming realm for women.
 
ButtonDownTheHutches said:
Indeed. Last night’s episode really highlighted how peripheral women are to the ‘serious’ end of proceedings: Willa is essentially ‘Pretty Woman’ writ large, Kerry is the trash that gets taken out the back door, Marcia’s presence was a surprise as many characters/viewers assumed she’d been dumped for good, Conor’s mum was long-since asylum-ed out of view like a character in a Victorian melodrama, Harriet Walter (can’t remember her character name - Lady Caroline?) is barely ever mentioned (aside from Shiv saying last week that she’d have rather she died than Logan), Gerri has been undermined by the dick pic, and Shiv was elbowed aside quite decisively, and that’s even before her pregnancy is common knowledge.


It’s not an especially welcoming realm for women.
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God, great albeit depressing take on it.
 
LaBlonde said:
🤣🤣🤣

i have to say though, i dislike greg more and more with every episode. i get his character is there for a reason but he’s been so slimey this series so far. though also i get he’s probably meant to represent the slow corruption of this lifestyle and these people, when you compare him to his season 1 self.
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Ugh me too, he gives me the ick every time he's on screen. Makes me think there has to be a counterweight to all the deeply cringe behaviour we're forced to endure - is he going to betray someone and if yes, who and how?
 
Walkthehemline said:
Ugh me too, he gives me the ick every time he's on screen. Makes me think there has to be a counterweight to all the deeply cringe behaviour we're forced to endure - is he going to betray someone and if yes, who and how?
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same! i’ve always thought that he’s building up to some big move (as no one really sees him as a clear threat and he’s always creeping in the background) but how? and like you say, on who?

i think it has to be tom, because he still has those papers BUT his relationship with tom has moved on since he took them, if that’s genuine.

i find greg’s motivations the hardest to read of anyone’s tbh. i find the actor kinda plays himself so it’s hard to judge, but the show has never clearly outlined what he actually wants as he doesn’t express strong feelings on anything. i suppose the “what would i do with a soul anyway?” line is the most indicative of his character.
 
i think the 'greg?' would've been there as a mental note, maybe after the cruises scandal / congress and he realised just how much greg knew. Give him something alongside colin, so he's less likely to 'disrespect' him or feels guiltier about revealing anything in the future, and also as a duck you to ewan i guess.

really depends where greg was in relation to the other paragraphs; with kendall is major, with colin is just leaving something to him and most likely imo
 
LaBlonde said:
🤣🤣🤣

i have to say though, i dislike greg more and more with every episode. i get his character is there for a reason but he’s been so slimey this series so far. though also i get he’s probably meant to represent the slow corruption of this lifestyle and these people, when you compare him to his season 1 self.
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He used to be one of my favourite characters but I have been meh about him this season so far
 
Silverback said:
He has been reduced to being an awkward, snakey side character.
He started off being our avatar as we walked through the wealthy world of the Roy’s, but these days there’s no need for that anymore so he’s stuck being the idiotic comic relief.
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exactly this. he was meant to be the audience’s eyes really but, one of the pitfalls of that is that he suffers as a character (like said above, we still don’t know what he wants or what his game plan is, if he has one). i also feel like the actor’s limitations are starting to become obvious in a series where everyone else steps up their game (not that he’s bad, or wouldn’t be bad on another show).

i feel like something big has to happen with him otherwise what’s the point. but he’s such a snakey character that it’s hard to know where his loyalties lie.
 
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