LennyBriscoe
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This picture of them, their faces are very much “how f*cking dare you say that about my dance for my sister”. Amy’s more “pretend you don’t care” but failing miserably
Strictly Come Dancing 2022 #2
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MidCenturyMadOne
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Have you ever seen this clip? Super hot Kaihannes dancing.And he makes it work.
Guitarwarrior
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It possibly seems that way to an outsider but most of the pros will be used to super long days in a rehearsal space. Most of the actors and sports people will used to really long days.
The majority of them are aren’t going for ten+ hours straight most take regular breaks or have to switch studio space. I think the long days are often needed when couples are loosing valuable time they could be rehearsing having to do other commitments like ITT or morning shows like Lorraine etc there also used to pro rehearsals during the week as well that had to be fitted in. I can remember Dianne complaining in one of Joe’s vlogs either finals or semis week about now much time they were losing because of having To do this morning.
StephenTJackson
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Kai does nothing for me to be honest, but JoJo, not normally my type. But
He's amazing. So sexy.
MidCenturyMadOne
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Just think the pair of them together are super hot, it just works so well. I adore JoJo. He’s a beautiful human.Kai does nothing for me to be honest, but JoJo, not normally my type. But
diamondthunder
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After the number of disasters and near-disasters this year, I hope TPBT take it as a wake-up call to maybe chill out just a tiny bit going forward, before they wind up with a really serious problem on their hands. They've been pushing the 'every year is bigger and better than the year before' narrative pretty hard, and eventually, they'll have to reach a point where the standard can't be any higher than the year before, and then what are they going to do? Keep pushing until the whole cast collapse from exhaustion? I've been worried for a while now that they're running a bigger risk than necessary of someone ending up seriously injured.
You'd like to think they'd be sensible enough to realise that higher ratings mean jack tit if you're paying out lawsuits because someone broke their neck or cracked their skull in some insanely difficult lift they were pressured into attempting, but CEOs are often sociopathic and/or fuckwits. Look at that head of McDonnell Douglas who knew about the design flaw in the DC-10 cargo doors but decided to just hope really really hard that it'd never cause a crash because he didn't want to spend the money to fix it.
MidCenturyMadOne
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This is the video where the photo is fromKai does nothing for me to be honest, but JoJo, not normally my type. But
I agree!
After Ugo's back injury, Robert having to pull out over his heart problem and then AJ’s ankle , it was quite a series
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LennyBriscoe
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Did Rhys not say one week that he’d trained for 10 hours and didn’t have a coffee break, like it was a good thing. I agree with Guitar Warrior about the extra TV stuff and even this year they were taking time out from training to film stuff like The Macarena, and if the standard is high…
It would be a shame if more and more people have to withdraw with injuries. I still can’t believe anyone thought Will Bayley jumping from a table was a good idea
Guitarwarrior
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I don’t really think production or anyone else involved behind the scenes really has much input on how much training each individual couple does. As far as I’m aware it’s always been up to the couple where and for how long they train as some celebs have to fit training in around their day job. I think they would only step in if someone ended up hospitalised.
With Nancy cracking the extreme whip with Rhys I’m suspicious it could be a cultural thing. Chinese(and Russian) coaches in sports have a reputation for being uber tough so I wonder if that’s the coaching style she’s been brought up with and so doesn’t see it as anything other than normal.
If Katie had been a massive ringer like Ashley Roberts or Karim a shorter day possibly would’ve been okay but that wasn’t the case. It wouldn’t have been fair if she’d gone much further doing less than the bare minimum when her total training hours for the week was some peoples total for a day and a half. You can take The piss at both ends of the scale.
Woolmercardington
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If the audience had liked her it wouldn't have mattered.
Guitarwarrior
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It would eventually.
It’s also a slap in the face to Gorka and any extra choreographers who spend hours choreographing these dances and to costume who spend hours designing the costumes.
Once you’ve warmed up and had the dance explained to you and gone through basics three hours is gone in no time. She really couldn’t have mastered something complicated and technical like an Argentine tango in a couple of three hour days.
Louisa Lytton's fantastic Jive was done on very little rehearsal time back in Series 4.
I tend to think though that 3 hours just was nowhere near enough for Katie. I'd say 6-8 is sufficient. I always thought it was stupid to do 12 hour days, if you're not an athlete, surely that will really increase the risk of injury? The average moderately active person could never do 12 hours a day of dancing for weeks on end.
I tend to think though that 3 hours just was nowhere near enough for Katie. I'd say 6-8 is sufficient. I always thought it was stupid to do 12 hour days, if you're not an athlete, surely that will really increase the risk of injury? The average moderately active person could never do 12 hours a day of dancing for weeks on end.
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diamondthunder
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God, I'd nearly forgotten about all those stupid videos they made them film, like they didn't have enough on their plates.Did Rhys not say one week that he’d trained for 10 hours and didn’t have a coffee break, like it was a good thing. I agree with Guitar Warrior about the extra TV stuff and even this year they were taking time out from training to film stuff like The Macarena, and if the standard is high…
It would be a shame if more and more people have to withdraw with injuries. I still can’t believe anyone thought Will Bayley jumping from a table was a good idea
And yeah, he did, I'm pretty sure he mentioned that sort of thing more than once. I was kinda hoping he was joking... since no one really reacted to it, but realistically, probably not. That sort of thing is normalized in the culture of athletic people, and any kind of performer - they're all bonkers. Countless stories of nutty directors traumatizing or half-killing their actors to get a more authentic performance.
It's understandable, they have to be 'crazy' like that to be so good, but it's unfortunate that it can go too far sometimes. For example, I really hate those 'inspiring' videos of runners dragging injured competitors over the finish line. It's super messed up that they're so obsessed with a 'finish every race' mentality instead of focusing on making sure a race-ending injury doesn't become a career-ending one.
On the most recent US DWTS, one week one of the contestants had a stomach bug and was running off-camera to vomit throughout the live show. Her pro does the post-show interview by himself because she was dehydrated enough to have to go to hospital straight after the show. He tells the press about how before their second dance she was crying and saying she didn't think she could do it, and he encouraged her that she was strong enough, would regret it if she didn't push through etc and she did it. The fact that he was happy to tell this story and didn't seem to have any awareness that a lot of people would not see a 38 year old man pressuring an 18 year old girl into performing when she was that sick as a heartwarming story speaks to how toxic a culture these people live in. (I should point out that she's an Olympic gymnast - undoubtedly an even worse environment than the dance world. I would certainly hope he would have known he couldn't expect that kind of thing from a non-athlete celeb!)
The world would be a boring place without talented, driven people, but sadly there's a nasty side to it.
MidCenturyMadOne
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Totally agree here. I do think Nancy was OTT as was Kai, because AJ was pushing him too ( she’s a trained PT and very fit though, did 10-12 hour days) , and wonder if they felt pressured as it was their first season? Nikita seemed to get the balance right, but of course they went out a lot earlier.God, I'd nearly forgotten about all those stupid videos they made them film, like they didn't have enough on their plates.
And yeah, he did, I'm pretty sure he mentioned that sort of thing more than once. I was kinda hoping he was joking... since no one really reacted to it, but realistically, probably not. That sort of thing is normalized in the culture of athletic people, and any kind of performer - they're all bonkers. Countless stories of nutty directors traumatizing or half-killing their actors to get a more authentic performance.
It's understandable, they have to be 'crazy' like that to be so good, but it's unfortunate that it can go too far sometimes. For example, I really hate those 'inspiring' videos of runners dragging injured competitors over the finish line. It's super messed up that they're so obsessed with a 'finish every race' mentality instead of focusing on making sure a race-ending injury doesn't become a career-ending one.
On the most recent US DWTS, one week one of the contestants had a stomach bug and was running off-camera to vomit throughout the live show. Her pro does the post-show interview by himself because she was dehydrated enough to have to go to hospital straight after the show. He tells the press about how before their second dance she was crying and saying she didn't think she could do it, and he encouraged her that she was strong enough, would regret it if she didn't push through etc and she did it. The fact that he was happy to tell this story and didn't seem to have any awareness that a lot of people would not see a 38 year old man pressuring an 18 year old girl into performing when she was that sick as a heartwarming story speaks to how toxic a culture these people live in. (I should point out that she's an Olympic gymnast - undoubtedly an even worse environment than the dance world. I would certainly hope he would have known he couldn't expect that kind of thing from a non-athlete celeb!)
The world would be a boring place without talented, driven people, but sadly there's a nasty side to it.
raghoney
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I hadn’t thought about this but you’re probably right. Bosses probably very keen to keep hold of Gorka due to his popularity but he’s expressed plenty of times now that his priority is his family. Not sure I’d be super surprised if this year is his last year - or at least his last year with a partner
soccergirl
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I think with athletes it's hard as they see the answer to poor performance as 'work harder' but if you're already doing 10 hours a day.. Adam talked about this, and how sometimes it was about taking a break, or working smarter and then suddenly feeling able to master something. Of course that is where the pro has to rein them in.
RE: Katie, I think it's funny that before she started she made all these headlines with 'Maura has nothing to worry about' and 'I'm not going to steal Gio' and then she made the impact of the dampest of squibs
RE: Katie, I think it's funny that before she started she made all these headlines with 'Maura has nothing to worry about' and 'I'm not going to steal Gio' and then she made the impact of the dampest of squibs
Fillyjonk
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God, I'd nearly forgotten about all those stupid videos they made them film, like they didn't have enough on their plates.
And yeah, he did, I'm pretty sure he mentioned that sort of thing more than once. I was kinda hoping he was joking... since no one really reacted to it, but realistically, probably not. That sort of thing is normalized in the culture of athletic people, and any kind of performer - they're all bonkers. Countless stories of nutty directors traumatizing or half-killing their actors to get a more authentic performance.
It's understandable, they have to be 'crazy' like that to be so good, but it's unfortunate that it can go too far sometimes. For example, I really hate those 'inspiring' videos of runners dragging injured competitors over the finish line. It's super messed up that they're so obsessed with a 'finish every race' mentality instead of focusing on making sure a race-ending injury doesn't become a career-ending one.
On the most recent US DWTS, one week one of the contestants had a stomach bug and was running off-camera to vomit throughout the live show. Her pro does the post-show interview by himself because she was dehydrated enough to have to go to hospital straight after the show. He tells the press about how before their second dance she was crying and saying she didn't think she could do it, and he encouraged her that she was strong enough, would regret it if she didn't push through etc and she did it. The fact that he was happy to tell this story and didn't seem to have any awareness that a lot of people would not see a 38 year old man pressuring an 18 year old girl into performing when she was that sick as a heartwarming story speaks to how toxic a culture these people live in. (I should point out that she's an Olympic gymnast - undoubtedly an even worse environment than the dance world. I would certainly hope he would have known he couldn't expect that kind of thing from a non-athlete celeb!)
The world would be a boring place without talented, driven people, but sadly there's a nasty side to it.
I find this utterly horrific - imagine pushing somebody so hard when they're ill, all for the sake of entertainment TV! Not to mention how many people in the studio would be exposed to a stomach bug. Not cool - with those you stay home!
LowCalCalzoneZone
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Kind of related to all the training hours and injury stuff, but I found the way the show dealt with AJ's injury a bit off - before she withdrew, Craig was giving interviews saying he'd had a similar injury and carried on after an injection, Tess was on This Morning giving vague hints that it was all ok, and then there was that weird interview with Janette on ITT
Just a general vibe of 'the show must go on' even though it was quite obvious she was had a bad injury - I just hope they weren't putting too much pressure on her before she got the doctor's verdict
Just a general vibe of 'the show must go on' even though it was quite obvious she was had a bad injury - I just hope they weren't putting too much pressure on her before she got the doctor's verdict
BDY_97
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I felt awful for her. Sasha (her pro) done an interview and said the poor girl actually had to swallow her sick down seconds before the doors opened for her to perform.
I don’t think so. I think they wanted to still allow her to be a part of the final week (press conferences, interviews, ITT etc) but I think deep down everyone knew she wouldn’t be dancing from pretty early on.
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