Or that he's gay
Sir Keir Starmer
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Ya know maybe I was too hasty before. Maybe Rayner WILL make a tilt against the PM.
After all, she has all the right attributes. Her political antenna are extremely sharp: only just last week she was confidently assuring us that Sue Grey would remain in her job as chief of staff. And Rayner also has the common touch: she had the Royal Tailor make a bespoke suit for her main squeeze Sam Tarry.
So far, so perfect! But there’s just one problem I can see: and that’s that influencers on the Left of the Party have started referring to her as “Angie”, as if they personally know her (they don’t).
It’s well known that when the wokebros start referring patronisingly to a senior female Labour politician by a cosy nickname, they see her merely as a political puppet and she probably doesn’t have the support of the membership . You may recall that a similar curse afflicted Rebecca Long-Bailey in 2019. Back then all the sexist brocialists were confidently asserting that “Becky” would swoop in and save the day, just as they are predicting the same for “Angie” now.
Alas, Long-Bailey duly faded into obscurity. Best thing Rayner can do is to stick exactly where she is.
After all, she has all the right attributes. Her political antenna are extremely sharp: only just last week she was confidently assuring us that Sue Grey would remain in her job as chief of staff. And Rayner also has the common touch: she had the Royal Tailor make a bespoke suit for her main squeeze Sam Tarry.
So far, so perfect! But there’s just one problem I can see: and that’s that influencers on the Left of the Party have started referring to her as “Angie”, as if they personally know her (they don’t).
It’s well known that when the wokebros start referring patronisingly to a senior female Labour politician by a cosy nickname, they see her merely as a political puppet and she probably doesn’t have the support of the membership . You may recall that a similar curse afflicted Rebecca Long-Bailey in 2019. Back then all the sexist brocialists were confidently asserting that “Becky” would swoop in and save the day, just as they are predicting the same for “Angie” now.
Alas, Long-Bailey duly faded into obscurity. Best thing Rayner can do is to stick exactly where she is.
It was Tim Shipman who was sued for allegedley reporting kneeler had affair with Baroness Jenny Chapman.There seem to be various rumours. One involves a peer who has previously sued and won on this and also doesn’t have kids I think
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She is a Baroness and has 2 sons from her previous marriage!There seem to be various rumours. One involves a peer who has previously sued and won on this and also doesn’t have kids I think
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She is a Baroness and has 2 sons from her previous marriage!There seem to be various rumours. One involves a peer who has previously sued and won on this and also doesn’t have kids I think
Yes, if it turns out to be true, especially after he was sued !If the name being mentioned re the alleged other person is correct, there could be a Jeffrey Archer-style perjury situation on the cards, too.
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And we've found the most dramatic post on this forum in quite some time.
bubbadabut
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I have to admit, I'm feeling like a bit of a chump. I actually thought Keir was going to be a reliable PM. In the way that a large, solid oak cabinet is reliable. Sturdy, kind of boring and outdated, but it does the job you need it to do.
With a change of government, I was really hoping for an end to all the sleaze and backhanders.
They really are all the bleeping same, aren't they?
With a change of government, I was really hoping for an end to all the sleaze and backhanders.
They really are all the bleeping same, aren't they?
HelloStereo
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Do you genuinely think accepting some Taylor Swift tickets or making use of a flat is the same as awarding your friends billions of pounds in contracts using public money?
Imagine if we just focussed on the outcomes of what they do? Who cares where he puts his pecker
I do, actually! I think you can tell a lot about the character of a person by the way they treat their nearest and dearest.
Par example I know someone IRL who’s always shouting on social media about the poor, the downtrodden and the oppressed. BUTTT I also happen to know that she treats her old mum like tit. Why the hell does she expect me to respect her stance on the theoretical “oppressed masses” that she doesn’t even know when she treats her own relative with utter disdain?
If you wanna know what moral character a politician has, look at their family n friends. The media rightly identified this as a problem with Boris, I think the same goes for Kier. And yeah yeah we all make mistakes in life, Goddess knows I’ve made a few. But to persist, lie, cover up and use your own kids as excuses?
Especially as he explicitly sold himself to the electorate as a man of “honesty and integrity” (those being his exact words).
And even IF you think you don’t mind where he puts his pecker, it’s not actually about that. It’s about cronyism, jobs for mates on the public dime, potential undemocratic political influence, possible breaking of lockdown rules and misuse of security clearance, if all the rumours and reports are correct (I’m not sure all of em are). That was more than enough to get Johnson fired, what’s sauce for the goose is good for the gander I say.
HelloStereo
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Isn't the difference that what was said about Boris's character turned out to be true (cheating on his wife when she had cancer), yet all this about Keir Starmer is currently rumours and hearsay?
HelloStereo
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No but people made judgments on his character because of it.
Scotch Mist
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Have to say I agree. I couldn't care less if he's gay or has a mistress and child hidden on the side. The only people that should care about that are his wife and family.Imagine if we just focussed on the outcomes of what they do? Who cares where he puts his pecker
I do care about things like stopping the winter fuel allowance for pensioners, attacks on freedom of speech, stopping people having a fag in a beer garden and giving away islands without any consultation.
veevee04
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I'm really disappointed. In many jobs serving the public you aren't allowed to take gifts. The government are allowed to take gifts! For me and not for thee strikes to mind.
He ran an election on the back of being honest there's a lot of workers on min wage who aren't allowed to take gifts. Why should he be allowed?
Miss Begotten
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If he didn’t get ousted for shagging Jennifer Arcuri and giving her public money, or getting blow jobs from Carrie in the Foreign Office he’s hardly going to be sacked for adultery.
You are making the same mistake that Starmer has made. It's not a question of the value of the freebies, but rather the principle.
The point is that Starmer has accepted things that have only been offered because of his position. He has accepted them when he could actually afford to pay for most of them himself. This gives the impression that he is using his position to enrich himself despite his constant talk of service.
Saying things like Johnson accepted money for expensive wallpaper or had someone pay for his wedding party, merely suggests that Starmer can be bought cheaply compared to Johnson. It does not change the principle.
Starmer's inability to see that how this looks to most people, compounds his error and shows his sense of entitlement.
He has made things worse with his lies and half truths trying to defend himself. He then pays for £6000 worth of freebies saying that it's the right thing to do. What about paying back the money for the clothes and glasses then?
All of this is happening with the backdrop of removing the WFA from a large group of pensioners who actually need it. As well as telling us all that times are going to be harder for all of us as he will be making tough decisions. And yet, clearly things aren't so tough for him as he is being subsidised by a rich donor. The optics are terrible.
Labour got such a huge majority, not because people liked Starmer or Labour itself. They voted because they were sick and tired of the Tories and believed that the new guys would be different. Maybe uninspiring, but different. Instead, they have got more of the same.
I don't understand why there are people, including Starmer himself, who can't see this.
Well in the vast majority of PAYE jobs, getting a freebie thru your job would be a taxable benefit in kind. But MPs don’t pay tax on their freebies. I think, if they did, they’d scrutinise the freebies they were offered much more closely.
Maybe Rachel Reeves will look into it for the upcoming Budget.
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It’s not a mistake that Free Geir has made, he knows full well what the real issues are. Pretending it’s “just” about free Tay Tay ticks or “just” about his “private life” is to be wilfully obtuse and wilfully miss the point. He’s far too smart for that!
It is alleged on social media that an/some MP has not been as diligent as a person of his/her/their calibre might be with his/her/their eligibility to stand as an MP.
Should this be the case for anyone standing for election in the UK, they may be dismissed from office & likely ineligible to stand for public office (a la cockup) or should this have been an active fraud they face criminal charges & possible imprisonment.
As we know many are firm upstanding people of great moral character (who knows his/her/their way round the legal injunction processes) - it is alleged & he/she/they said so often enough.
#Blessedbe the toolmakers.
Should this be the case for anyone standing for election in the UK, they may be dismissed from office & likely ineligible to stand for public office (a la cockup) or should this have been an active fraud they face criminal charges & possible imprisonment.
As we know many are firm upstanding people of great moral character (who knows his/her/their way round the legal injunction processes) - it is alleged & he/she/they said so often enough.
#Blessedbe the toolmakers.
HelloStereo
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That's not the point I was making at all.
The Tories used to give their pals contracts using public money. This is not the same as receiving concert tickets from someone. The two are not comparable.
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