Sex and the City & And Just Like That #9

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I found the scene with Anthony and the Italian poet (with the enormous iambic pentameter) really jarring. This show has always been about women and sex, even if it was created by camp gay men, so it was like breaking the fourth wall to show gay men discussing top and bottom business. I did get a giggle because I suddenly copped what Cole Porter was actually singing about - "you're the top, you're the Colosseum..."

 
Yer_wha?! said:
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I have got absolutely no problem with gay or lesbian characters in SATC or AJLT. It's just been really jarring that the male characters (Stanford/Anthony/the poet) are allowed to just be gay men. It seems all the female characters who haven't been straight in AJLT have had to be queer/pan/bi/nb/trans- rather than just bog standard (no offence!) lesbian women who just like other women! I think the only genuine representation of a lesbian was Maria, when Samantha got together with her for a while
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No offence here – I just want to be a bog standard lesbian too! And maybe occasionally see one on TV...
 
Carrie not uninviting Che to the dinner is bullshit too. She should be supporting Miranda not forcing her to have dinner with someone who broke her heart, publicly humiliated her, then had a go at her on the street.

Is Carrie getting more selfish as this series goes on?

Most of the people she's inviting to that dinner she's only met in the last year - Che, Nya, LWT, - they are her friend's friends. She's probably only met them in passing a few times.

Where are all her real friends from the 35 years she's lived in New York? Not these blow ins.
 
surlook said:
Carrie not uninviting Che to the dinner is bullshit too. She should be supporting Miranda not forcing her to have dinner with someone who broke her heart, publicly humiliated her, then had a go at her on the street.

Is Carrie getting more selfish as this series goes on?

Most of the people she's inviting to that dinner she's only met in the last year - Che, Nya, LWT, - they are her friend's friends. She's probably only met them in passing a few times.

Where are all her real friends from the 35 years she's lived in New York? Not these blow ins.
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It's bullshit isn't it? My best friends partner completely screwed her over and whilst I liked him, she meant more to me so it was no no to any further relationship.
 
Do they mean to write Carrie as such as selfish witch? I’m not sure they think she is a toxic protagonist, it’s like they think she’s cute when she’s being a cnut.

As much as I don’t like new Miranda Carrie should have gone with her when she left the comedy club. They are meant to be best friends of decades and Carrie just sat there. There is no reason that Che needs to be at that last supper. Carrie can hang out with her another time. She’s not just betraying Miranda but also Steve. I’m sure he’s going to love hanging with his ex and the non-binary narc she left him for after a finger bang so intense Carrie pissed herself in the next room.

Whilst the monk thing was a bit weird it was done quite beautifully and Anthony showed real emotion and depth when he is usually all about being a stereotypical witch.

I will say though that this is the only episode that has made me genuinely laugh out loud. Not sure that’s the vibe they were going for with Aidans crying scene but he was bleeping hilarious. Dawson 20 years later still pissed that Joey picked Pacey.

 
surlook said:
SATC followed the lives of 4 women. Anthony and Stanford were supporting characters and we didn't see them unless they were with a main character - usually Carrie and Charlotte.

This series had us following the lives of Carrie, Charlotte, Miranda, Che, Nya, LWT, Seema, & Anthony. I may have even forgotten someone there. That's 8 characters!! 8 characters with different stories that rarely intertwine. How are we supposed to follow all of them, especially when they don't have time to develop any storyline properly.

That's not even taking into account the secondary characters - Charlotte's annoying children, Aidan and his home life, Brady, Steve's new bar, Carrie's jewelry designing neighbour, LWT's husband running for something (?).

It's too much. We have no connection to those characters because they are not developed. 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
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its tit.its too much going on .But I keep watching anyway
 
Shady Pines Ma said:
Deck the Halls - genuinely one of my fave guilty pleasures at Xmas 😂

also has Danny Devito and Kristin Chenoweth
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She’s in a Hallmark Xmas film which is cheesy but enjoyable. She’s a hardworking business woman who dies and then her ghost meets a handsome cafe owner and his daughter (Will of Will & Grace) and sees what she could have had in life.
she’s also in a Netflix Xmas movie from a few years ago where she’s gets divorced and goes to Africa for Xmas and meets Rob Lowe haha.
 
I’m sure it’s been mentioned but last two episodes are called the Last supper as we know. Which is a reference to Jesus and the last supper with the disciples. So looking at seating positions on the promo and the painting who do we feel will be Judas role. Che is a possibility just based on seating, any ideas?
 
wishiniwasskinny said:
She’s in a Hallmark Xmas film which is cheesy but enjoyable. She’s a hardworking business woman who dies and then her ghost meets a handsome cafe owner and his daughter (Will of Will & Grace) and sees what she could have had in life.
she’s also in a Netflix Xmas movie from a few years ago where she’s gets divorced and goes to Africa for Xmas and meets Rob Lowe haha.
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She was also in a terrible slasher/motel horror film starring Meatloaf in which she wore a white bra.
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I watched Ep10 yesterday and needed to come on here to make sense of it all. Aidan's crying was so waxen. I wasn't sure whether Wyatt Shaw's story arc was going to be that he's autistic but I think that it's more akin to a confused teen struggling with his parents' divorce.

Dolly Wells as Miranda's new love interest would be cool. She’s defo not the same actor who played Mimi, but it's very much a case of Americans believing that all Brits speak with a plum in their mouth.

Carrie should have walked out of Cunty Che's show in solidarity with Miranda, but she's a tit friend.
 
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I liked Charlotte and letting Richard Burton in. 😅 Even though Charlotte/Kristin has become such a caricature of herself I still find myself feeling warmth towards Charlotte and I think they did really miss a trick by not showing more of Harry and Charlotte as an older couple instead of using them as a comedy effect.

I also liked the scene with Anthony and Carrie about Stanford, I felt real emotion and heart there.

Most of the rest of it was crap.Nya and LTW just seem to be reading lines off a script, I don’t feel any emotion from them at all. The pregnancy story felt weird and just shoehorned in. As someone else has said there’s just too many people.

I think we are setting up for Carrie living alone in her huge new fancy flat. Che is a dick. Also the scene on the street made me cringe myself inside out - was it with Toby (?) when they said “oh sorry for assuming you’re openly Enby” and Che being all “oh thank you for even checking” like Jesus this is not subtle this is hitting us over the head with too much stuff.

The problem with Che other than them being a dick is that their whole personality is about being non binary. If they’d had a character doing interesting stuff who, incidentally was non binary, that would have been so much better.

But looking forward to seeing how it all plays out next week anyway 🤣
 
gossipgal21 said:
The problem with Che other than them being a dick is that their whole personality is about being non binary. If they’d had a character doing interesting stuff who, incidentally was non binary, that would have been so much better.
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You are so right about this! When they were working in the shelter they had to make a big deal about an old man getting their pronouns wrong. A man who knows them for years as she. There was no need for that.

Working in the animal shelter made them likeable up to that.
 
I find Anthony's storyline hard to believe. Of course I know that not all gay men have penetrative sex and that's just something assumed when some people think of gay men but Anthony has lived a wild life and has been into the drug and party scene forever. Are we really meant to believe that even when high off his nut he's never, ever indulged?
 
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