Sex And The City & And Just Like That #3

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I’m getting really pissed off with all the focus on Che. Since when did being non-binary (or any ‘identity’) become a substitute for a personality? Anthony’s response to Charlotte about Rose was the best part of the episode. I don’t want to be lectured to by SATC, sorry and the podcast is just horrible and not funny. No one should be wanking in public, man or woman, and Carrie should have ripped that guy a new one, not just sat there looking embarrassed. This is where we end up when every so called ‘kink’ is valid.

On another note, I saw Big’s death coming a mile off. I’m just glad it didn’t happen during the masturbation scene (and there were some facial expressions from Big in there that I could have lived the rest of my life without seeing).

Miranda has turned into a fkin idiot. I get what they’re trying to do with her character, but I can’t believe a smart woman in her fifties who lives in New York, wouldn’t know enough not to go on about a black professors hair.

I did like LTW’s husband though. ‘He don’t got it’ was about the only laugh in that episode with Susan Sharon’s ‘doesn’t anyone remember what a prick he was to her?’ being the only one in ep 2.

Oh, and I miss Samantha.

Yes! 👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼
And yes I loved the scene with Charlotte and Anthony! He’s my kind of guy!
 
Anthony is the only one who has improved and ‘woke’ in the right way, its not forced
I agree. I was never that bothered about his character in SATC, but I’m really enjoying him in AJLT.

I’m sad about Stanford though. If these were his last scenes, I wonder how they’re going to write him out. He’d better get a good send off (better than Big’s at least, which were style over substance).
 
Second hand embarrassment for Miranda's gushing praise
Have the writers reduced her to a giddy fangirl?

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I'm a gay woman and quite girly now (long hair, wear make-up, etc.), but I was very much a tomboy as a kid in the 90s/early 00s. It really scares me how much young women who aren't super-feminine are now almost pressured to identify as something other than female. I wonder how many are being pushed down a medical pathway of transitioning when they aren't even old enough to vote or drink.

My girlfriend is in her 40s (9 years older than me) and is a more masculine-presenting woman (what used to be called 'butch', I guess). When she was growing up/in her 20s it was more acceptable for a lesbian to look like her, but now it's almost as if people are offended that she calls herself a woman. She is perfectly happy to be a woman – she just happens to be a woman with short hair who doesn't like dresses!

What's happening is called progress and you get called a terf/transphobe if you say anything even vaguely critical, but it feels extremely regressive to me. It's forcing young people to conform to extremely outdated gender stereotypes instead of letting them just be. Ironically, out of all the people on this show, the only one who had a sensible response to the Rose storyline was Anthony, the gayest of gay men.
This whole post is spot on!!! Thank you for sharing this - so much better than I could have done! My mum has never been overly ‘feminine’ - loves football, always has done, only seen her wear a dress/ skirt a handle of times, and when she was a young girl she loved being out and playing with her male cousins… now as you say probably would have been labelled and pigeon holed rather than just being who she wants to be! Anyway don’t want to detail the thread !!
 
Kim is booked ans busy 🥰🥰🥰🥰
( eventhough I find it kind of weird that they booked an older woman for the future parts.. but in the original serie, the same actor would play past him and present him)
 
Kim is booked ans busy 🥰🥰🥰🥰
( eventhough I find it kind of weird that they booked an older woman for the future parts.. but in the original serie, the same actor would play past him and present him)
Actually an older actor did the voice (Bob Saget) - difference is we never saw him until the finale, then it was the same actor who'd played the Dad all along (Josh Radnor), with a totally different voice!
 
It’s such a sensitive, important topic and I don’t feel I know enough to comment, I am listening and learning as much as possible but yes, I have wondered what happened to the tomboy. I am terrified of being called a TERFalthough I do try also to listen to that perspective Too.
As best I remember the sequence of events,
70s feminism was about getting rid of labels like “tomboy” for girls. The idea was that stuff like short hair, wearing jeans, getting mucky, climbing trees etc etc shouldn’t be frowned on for girls, or categorised as “boyish” or especially masculine in any way. The general view was that people should be able to do what they wanted without those activities being made gender specific. It makes sense (and although “tomboy” as a term was always sort of complimentary, “sissy-boy”, which was probably the term for boys interested in more traditionally feminine activities, definitely wasn’t.

Your point is well made, in that there was a point at which girls could be interested in “boyish” things, activities and appearance, and nobody would suggest that that meant they weren’t girls.

Of course now we seem to have reached a point where that quite sensible position has been flipped on its head in an incredibly regressive way while being marketed as progressive. A parent who’s up on this stuff would view a little boy’s interest in wearing pink as possible indication that he might actually be a girl. We are right back where we started with the gender stereotypes, except even more damage is being done to kids!

People talk about “not feeling like a man” or “feeling like a woman”, implying that there are certain internal feelings which all women (or men) share and that those feelings can be used to determine sex. I would love for someone to be able to identify exactly what those feelings are, because I’m a woman and couldn’t even begin to describe what “feeling like a woman” is. It has always seemed odd to me that men know better than women what it’s like to feel like a woman.
 
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It’s such a sensitive, important topic and I don’t feel I know enough to comment, I am listening and learning as much as possible but yes, I have wondered what happened to the tomboy. I am terrified of being called a TERFalthough I do try also to listen to that perspective Too.
Don't be terrified. The people who would call you a terf WANT you to be terrified. I used to be afraid of that as well until I started being told that, as a lesbian, I should be willing to have sex with transwomen regardless of whether or not they had a penis – this is now a widely accepted view btw. That was my 'peak trans' moment in all of this – I simply stopped giving a duck about what any of them think of me. If that makes me a terf, I'm fine with it.
 
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