Secret Celebrity Gossip #138

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Missmopps said:
Edited to add: I’ve a soft spot for Mark Austin, remember him presenting the original survivor reality tv series? Dreamboat. Yeah I know…serious reporter etc but he IS. Well spoken, clever, incisive, intelligent. I also had a thing for Bill Neely back in the day.
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Bill Neely is very handsome. There’s a lot to be said for a well-spoken insightful man 😍
 
I used to have a soft spot for Will Smith, enjoyed Fresh Prince of Bel Air and films like Independence Day etc. He's a good comedic actor and has a lot of charisma.

It was such a shame to see him sit there blubbering and dribbling like a fool as his dry-eyed wife dishes out hurtful "truths", cool as a cucumber.
Kind of takes away any Hollywood magic.

I don't even think she likes him very much at this point. Just get divorced already.

ETA I may go to hell for saying this, but I don't think she's got Alopecia either.
 
I was trying to see if there was somewhere else to post this... but does anyone remember Chantelle Houghton, the daft one who married Preston for money from Big Brother? Well, she's now spending her time trying to recruit vulnerable women into a pyramid scheme, or more nicely MLM. This is a rip off, ponzi scheme where people are made to buy products worth virtually zero, hike up the prices, then nobody buys them. Solution- recruit more mugs to sell this worthless rubbish. It's under the guise of the formerly very ethical beauty brand Body Shop. Cynical, utterly appalling practice and nobody should ever join "body shop at home' or any other MLM, they will lose money. There's a doc about how MLMs go wrong called LulaRich, definitely worth a watch.
 
Discombobby said:
I was trying to see if there was somewhere else to post this... but does anyone remember Chantelle Houghton, the daft one who married Preston for money from Big Brother? Well, she's now spending her time trying to recruit vulnerable women into a pyramid scheme, or more nicely MLM. This is a rip off, ponzi scheme where people are made to buy products worth virtually zero, hike up the prices, then nobody buys them. Solution- recruit more mugs to sell this worthless rubbish. It's under the guise of the formerly very ethical beauty brand Body Shop. Cynical, utterly appalling practice and nobody should ever join "body shop at home' or any other MLM, they will lose money. There's a doc about how MLMs go wrong called LulaRich, definitely worth a watch.
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surprised about this post on so many levels.
1. never heard of the Body Shop doing anything like this
2. you described them as formerly very ethical - they were owned for a time by L'oreal. That's pretty much out there online and i along with many other ppl boycotted them. They have since been purchased by a brand that seems to be taking them back to the early days ethical roots with a lot of the ideas held by Anita Roddick when founding the brand such as refills etc
3 i'm surprised Chantelle is still deemed newsworthy

PS looked into the Body Shop At Home thing.. looks just like being an Avon lady to me.. nothing MLM about it unless i'm missing something
 
LydiaDeetzHat said:
surprised about this post on so many levels.
1. never heard of the Body Shop doing anything like this
2. you described them as formerly very ethical - they were owned for a time by L'oreal. That's pretty much out there online and i along with many other ppl boycotted them. They have since been purchased by a brand that seems to be taking them back to the early days ethical roots with a lot of the ideas held by Anita Roddick when founding the brand such as refills etc
3 i'm surprised Chantelle is still deemed newsworthy

PS looked into the Body Shop At Home thing.. looks just like being an Avon lady to me.. nothing MLM about it unless i'm missing something
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I attended a conference once in which the founder, Anita Roddick, spoke about businesses having a higher purpose beyond just a profit for owners, that it had to take into account employees, customers and the environment.

But the company was sold and she passed away and now the name is being used to con people into MLM.

The year before her death, she sold the company to Nestle, which is the type of company that Body Shop was supposed to be an alternative to. It is profit-driven, tests on animals, pushes unhealthy products, etc. Today, Body Shop is owned by Natura, a Brazilian company that also owns Avon worldwide, which is also now 100% MLM. Avon used to be a real direct selling company, but switched over to MLM, at least partially in the early 2000s, and now it is just like Mary Kay or Arbonne, and so many others, a recruiting scheme. Avon is in the USA was split off from Avon worldwide and it is owned by a Korean company.

So both Avon and Body Shop, which were formerly trusted brand names and companies, have become standard MLMs like Amway.

I hope that helps. But do not get involved in any MLM. That's my logical advice.

You are not wrong about Chantelle, but I was worried she was using her platform to recruit people into a scheme which will lose them money.
 
wishiniwasskinny said:
I’m behind on the thread but re Phil & Holly queue jumping, I never got the uproar because I thought they were filming a segment. It made sense to me that a morning magazine news show would cover the Queen’s death and so may have filming access to the coffin. Also comparing them to DB queueing when that was a huge exercise in PR and “oh how humble I am”, to me is pointless as it’s still someone using the situation to his own end. However I also found it strange that people and people of status would queue to see a box.
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I completely agree with you about DB using it as a PR exercise - what’s 14 hours (or whatever) in a queue if it means positive publicity - which he craves - and another go at being knighted?!
Also take your point about people queuing all that time - I wouldn’t queue that long to see them alive or in a box!!
Phil and Holly - it’s just another example of their arrogance isn’t it.
 
Jelly Bean said:
Richard O'Brien? Off of Crystal Maze?
I genuinely did not know that.
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Asterix said:
Me neither.

I've always found Richard O' Brien strangely attractive.
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Yes. He identifies as third gender and has for a few years.
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Mugglewump said:
They're all male or female no matter what they say, and they can't compel my speech so I'll use correct sex pronouns.
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And that is your prerogative. I will continue to refer to them as how they wish.

Edit: Sorry mods, am a couple of pages behind - just saw the note.
 
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LydiaDeetzHat said:
surprised about this post on so many levels.
1. never heard of the Body Shop doing anything like this
2. you described them as formerly very ethical - they were owned for a time by L'oreal. That's pretty much out there online and i along with many other ppl boycotted them. They have since been purchased by a brand that seems to be taking them back to the early days ethical roots with a lot of the ideas held by Anita Roddick when founding the brand such as refills etc
3 i'm surprised Chantelle is still deemed newsworthy

PS looked into the Body Shop At Home thing.. looks just like being an Avon lady to me.. nothing MLM about it unless i'm missing something
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Avon is an MLM, as are Usborne books, Ann Summers (the rep side), tropic skincare and Body Shop at Home.

They’re just a lot more underhand about it than the usual suspects so they’re seen as “acceptable” and respectable. Ann Summers and the Body Shop also benefit from having actual shops to cover the shady home stuff with.
 
LydiaDeetzHat said:
surprised about this post on so many levels.
1. never heard of the Body Shop doing anything like this
2. you described them as formerly very ethical - they were owned for a time by L'oreal. That's pretty much out there online and i along with many other ppl boycotted them. They have since been purchased by a brand that seems to be taking them back to the early days ethical roots with a lot of the ideas held by Anita Roddick when founding the brand such as refills etc
3 i'm surprised Chantelle is still deemed newsworthy

PS looked into the Body Shop At Home thing.. looks just like being an Avon lady to me.. nothing MLM about it unless i'm missing something
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MLM is when the only way you actually make money is by recruiting others to sell the products. (that they have to buy)- nobody really wants to buy a bottle of bubble bath for a tenner when its the same if not worse than supermarket brand. The agents don't make money, they spend it. And if you recruited everyone you were meant to then that would mean more than the population of the planet were selling overpriced bath products.
Please do not ever get involved.
 
I think Avon and The Body Shop aren't quite as predatory as the likes of Monat, LulaRoe, Herbalife, Beachbody etc. but they are still MLMs so should be avoided.

Also, re the "ethics" of The Body Shop, Anita Roddick stole the entire idea from two other women, lied about charity donations, bullshit about "ethical" ingredients, let the company screw over franchisees, and sold out to L'Oréal

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...r-trade-started-copied-Body-Shop-formula.html
 
FenellaTheWitch said:
In this article he describes himself as 70% male and 30% female. He even discusses JKR.

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.the...interview-rocky-horror-trans-crack-stroke-70s


I think the difference with someone like Richard O'Brien and Sam Smith is that Richard just does his thing and lives his life and doesn't try and make everyone conform or ram it down their throats. That's what pisses people off. There's always been trans and gender fluid people and on the whole, in my lifetime, no one really cared. Fill your boots. You do you kind of thing but because of this movement in the last few years to demand this and demand that or 'people with a cervix' nonsense, it's made people take sides and that is where the problem is.
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Yes this is my issue too. I’m fully supportive of trans rights, but erasing the word women to accommodate the 0.5% of trans men who might be offended is highly irritating. Women have been subjugated and prejudiced for so long (and we still don’t have true equality) - so this erasure is highly galling.

I am not a “person who bleeds”.
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…and the fact that when you try to stand up for women’s rights you are branded a TERF and transphobic. Misogony is at work when women can’t stand up for themselves
 
eppingforestbambi said:
Yes this is my issue too. I’m fully supportive of trans rights, but erasing the word women to accommodate the 0.5% of trans men who might be offended is highly irritating. Women have been subjugated and prejudiced for so long (and we still don’t have true equality) - so this erasure is highly galling.

I am not a “person who bleeds”.
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I know we want to move on, but I will say that I think reducing anyone - woman, man, trans or cis or nonbinary - to their genitalia and bodily functions is so dehumanising and degrading.
 
FenellaTheWitch said:
In this article he describes himself as 70% male and 30% female. He even discusses JKR.

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.the...interview-rocky-horror-trans-crack-stroke-70s


I think the difference with someone like Richard O'Brien and Sam Smith is that Richard just does his thing and lives his life and doesn't try and make everyone conform or ram it down their throats. That's what pisses people off. There's always been trans and gender fluid people and on the whole, in my lifetime, no one really cared. Fill your boots. You do you kind of thing but because of this movement in the last few years to demand this and demand that or 'people with a cervix' nonsense, it's made people take sides and that is where the problem is.
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💯👏🏾 yes exactly this
 
Body shop at home has been around for at least 15 years- they always seems to have things on offer making them cheaper than the shops which is odd.

Everything JPS says seems to be in order to make WS look bad. Shes now saying he first pursued her when he was still with his his 1st wife but she sent him running and he trued again when he was diorced. Every story she paints herself as the heroine and good person in it all.
 
www.thesun.co.uk

Jada Pinkett Smith confesses CPS investigated family over claims she starved Willow

JADA Pinkett Smith revealed on the latest episode of her Red Table Talk show that Child Protective Services investigated her family amid claims they starved daughter Willow when she was 14. She cla…
www.thesun.co.uk

Why was Jada pretending that social services were called over Willows eating, when it was over the fact her daughter was taking photos of herself topless in bed with a 20 year old? Said 20 year old was just hanging out in 14 year old Willows bed with full blessing and permission from her parents.
 
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