Secret Celebrity Gossip #134

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maytoseptember said:
Isn’t it interesting, looking back, how many male comedians have done routines for decades that quite explicitly tells us who they are? And yet no one ever questioned it, because to question is was to not get the joke and not be edgy or clever enough.

It’s the same with men in bands - so many have turned out to have dodgy attitudes towards women at best, rapists and sexual abusers at worst.

Fame and fortune really does corrupt, doesn’t it?
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I think because we laugh at comedians and they make us happy (hopefully) we feel a bond with them and they must somehow be OK. It's a wierd dynamic. But yes at lot of the time they were explicitly telling us their awful attitudes. Especially in those laddish years. But yes as you say if you didn't laugh it's because you were prudish and didn't get they were being ironic. They were presenting themselves as incredibly different from the old guard establishment eg Bernard Manning, Chubby Brown, but in their own way some were as awful.
 
Libbylulu said:
Didn’t Walliams humiliate an audience member horribly - or have I got that wrong?
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It was some off-camera chat about not wanting to shag someone even though she clearly wanted him to. Think it was at that talent show he got turfed from.

Went to Marks and Spencer earlier, with my mum, and the guy on the till couldn't resist being creepy. Even with all the anger flowing through me these days, all I could do was smile politely and shut down. Can't even get some tattle influenced goodies without wankers.
 
OT, but if you ever want to be blocked by Liam post this
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CatherineTheGreatsHorse said:


There's a few interesting bits in this interview of Brand with the Great Norm McDonald, particularly the bit around 32-33 minutes when he says (approximately ) that he can look back in his dark times with humour now, but 'so long as you don't think too much about the victims' (approx).

The interview starts about 10.minutes in.
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In Norm we trust!

I mean, I love Norm but he had a few alleged creepy moments with other female comedians suggested after he died, actually on the day of his death. Twitters gotta twit!

I've always found Norm kinda sexless although he did use sexual profanity in his act....he had a strange relationship with homosexuality in his act and podcast, sort of frat boy but also alluding to his his own sexuality....

The contrast to this is that in his Saturday Night Live heyday, the ladies loved him! He was sort of chiselled and had piercing blue eyes. He dated Elle Macpherson for a while.
 
Jelly Bean said:
They were presenting themselves as incredibly different from the old guard establishment eg Bernard Manning, Chubby Brown, but in their own way some were as awful.
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I think there’s a political element too. Especially when it comes to comics who are the darlings of the Left. You can basically get away with ANYTHING as long as you criticise the Tories. Because if you criticise the Tories, you can’t possibly be a bad person.
 
Eureka said:
That's his act though. He's as likely to say something disgusting about a bloke in the audience as a woman and the audience love it. His jokes are disgusting but they aren't solely aimed at women. He's moved away from that in a lot of ways, I saw him recently and his jokes were mainly aimed at the establishment and the Royal Family.

Comedy is very subjective and some people find certain topics off limits but I don't think there should be any sacred cows in comedy. There is a place for dark humour but it depends very much on how its said and the intent behind it.
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I saw him recently too, like Gervais once said you can make a joke about anything it’s how it’s said.
I’ve seen Frankie in the past and have roared with laughter, his comments might be to the bone but there is no intent there

I think being foul mouthed is one thing a rapist and sexual abuser is completely different
 
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Jelly Bean said:
Funnily enough I'd only heard good things about Justin Fletcher. That he spends ages after his shows with the children with special needs, talking to them.
Aware how dodgy that sounds these days but I mean in a good way!
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Agreed!

Mr. Tumble always comes up on these boards....such an obvious target BUT he's not for you, he's for kids.

Over the years the subtle and inclusive way he has normalised disabilities, especially children with disabilities is GOD LIKE! - Haha, I really wanted to go for it with this one :)
 
Jusa said:
Frank Skinner used to be obsessed with anal sex.
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I vividly recall knowing this, I would have been in my teens when I heard/read that Frank Skinner preferred anal sex to any other sex. It's all I can think of when I see his face on a screen.

This is probably far too much info for a secret sleb goss thread, but, do women enjoy anal sex?

I will start; I have been heavily persuaded to do this in one consensual situation (long term partner) and definitely did not consent to this when I was a teen. It gave me no pleasure at all, either time, and was extremely painful.

It's not the kind of thing I feel comfortable talking with real life friends about...though no women I know have ever said 'oh, I really enjoy anal sex'.

I apologise if this is overstepping the mark, or is triggering for anyone. My emotions have been all over the place since the weekend. What I thought would be an expose of an industry (comedy) became laser focused on an individual abusing many.
 
maytoseptember said:
I think there’s a political element too. Especially when it comes to comics who are the darlings of the Left. You can basically get away with ANYTHING as long as you criticise the Tories. Because if you criticise the Tories, you can’t possibly be a bad person.
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Tbh, I think that's total b.s. Comics who are lefties are regularly lambasted by the Tory tabloid press, even if they have no skeletons in the closet in their private lives.
 
tdf said:
Sean Hughes and a person I won't name (still very much alive but semi retired) have come up.
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I stopped paying attention to Seán Hughes ages before he died, around the time I got sick of Never Mind The Buzzcocks being so snide and nasty to guests, and especially the people brought on in a line up to guess which one was once the drummer on a one-hit-wonder.

So I was kind of unsurprised to read that he had gone from happy Irish drunk fella in the 1990s to twisted manipulative rake. He really hurt some good friends of his - especially women.
 
100% Williams will be next. A friend of a friend slept with walliams fairly regularly when she was about 19, he was late 30s. Apparently he liked her to have her underwear in her mouth during sex. Each to their own and all that, but it always struck me as off given the age difference and power/wealth imbalance. He’s a creep
 
tdf said:
Was their confirmation of this? There was a rather negative Guardian piece after he died which made various hints, without saying anything specific.
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I'm reading it now. "No one I speak to will go into specifics – it seems not to be something people want to revisit – but dark mutterings among women who had relationships with him floated around like an ugly cloud, becoming visible again after his death."

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.the...sadness-is-he-didnt-get-to-be-old-just-lonely

I would expect more to come out in time.
 
FenellaTheWitch said:
I would think AS is quite fluid and comfortable in his own skin to do whatever he wants especially being a beautiful perfect Swedish person 🤣
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FenellaTheWitch said:
I would think AS is quite fluid and comfortable in his own skin to do whatever he wants especially being a beautiful perfect Swedish person 🤣
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Yeah. Though I did think he was in a relationship with the woman who he had a baby with. Maybe not lol
 
These guys like Walliams and Brand are so jaded that their “tastes” become more and more extreme to get the kick. I would not want Brand around kids, even his own. He is twisted. Brand was exposed to porn at such a young age by his feckless father. Like Saville, Brand is close to his mother.
 
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