Sali Hughes #66 The Girl with the Pigeon Tattoo

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HotesTilaire said:
Slightly different scenario, but when the boats of refugees from Syria were landing on Greek islands, it was reported that the women often asked for eyeliner (and it was true, I saw for myself) it might see ridiculous or silly, whatever, but it’s a small, inexpensive, personal item which can be put in a pocket. You feel you look nice with it on. Like you used to wear.
I think the lipstick is similar, but it’s not about the lipstick (or eyeliner) you could give many little items like a pen or travel toothpaste set, a little key ring, which would give the same joy. People who have nothing and whose near future doesn’t have any guaranteed home, comfort or joy would be thrilled. Especially a “woman’s“ product which nobody is going to steal from you, unlike food or money.
The “ick” factor is Sali using the story to extol the virues of make-up, its “superpower” as a beacon of light in a dire situation. It wasn’t special because it was lipstick, it was getting a little special gift. It could have been a tube of sweets. A tub of Vaseline. A ribbon.
Then to bring in her Jewish-adjacent status, to justify that her extended family didn’t find it offensive is just (what is the word? I can’t think Im too annoyed.Low? Disingenuous? Trashy? Classless? Manipulative? )
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Yes that's it. I don't doubt the story tbh. But it's the importance Sali places on a tiny isolated aspect of it. The justification for her conspicuous consumerism off the back of it. Holocaust survivors liked lipstick therefore owning groaning cupboards full of product and encouraging others to do the same is beyond any criticism.
 
Jelly Bean said:
Yes that's it. I don't doubt the story tbh. But it's the importance Sali places on a tiny isolated aspect of it. The justification for her conspicuous consumerism off the back of it. Holocaust survivors liked lipstick therefore owning groaning cupboards full of product and encouraging others to do the same is beyond any criticism.
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As is being married to a man who was born Jewish. Little Miss Appropriation.
 
Here's the article. She fucked up whose account it was from. It wasn't the Red Cross's it was from a Lieutenant Colonel's diary.
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Red lipstick is a kiss to womankind

For Sali Hughes, it’s a small, easy and bold change and the perfect companion to tackle the bigger, more substantial and important ones this International Women's Day
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Mselvista said:
What's that awful (apocryphal?) Liz Taylor quote SH likes? About putting some lipstick on, having a drink and pulling yourself together or similar. Terrible, terrible advice.
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SH got the story from Linda Grant who cited it under this column. https://www.12ft.io/https://www.12f...hes-matt-lipsticks?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Obvs in @Jelly Bean 's screenshots SH implies she stumbled across it.
A tale to be weirded to shut up detractors (someone rather distasteful about that, I think).View attachment 3237880 qView attachment 3237881 q
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Weirdos all around..."SEE?! A SECONDHAND AND UNVERIFIED ACCOUNT OF HOW RED LIPSTICK SAVED THE PSYCHES OF HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS IN ONE CAMP SAYS I'M RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!"

I mean, my first question is who sent a box of red lipstick exactly? Where did they get it from? Why? Like, that would be the much more interesting story FOR A JOURNALIST to explore than exploiting this story of women on the edge of their mind being happy to see red lipstick to justify your "shallow is depth" mindset or whatever it is she used to say. I mean, in that Red Cross account one woman was found in the morgue clutching her red lipstick, I dunno if that's an anecdote I'd ever want to use for my personal ego boosting.
 
SqualorVictoria said:
Oh she totally believes he’s punching. She wrote an article for the Pool when they got engaged because for years she had been insisting she would never remarry. In the article she said something like “we’re each others favourite person, he likes small people and I like big noses”.

And when they got married Dan had posted a picture of them on Twitter. Someone replied “wow mate you’re punching” which was clearly just banter and something people say rather than a serious comment. Sali being Sali replied and launched into a tirade about how Dan made her laugh so much and was a great shag. Instead of just laughing it off
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Oh god, I remember the Twitter exchange now, obviously my subconscious (filled with inane stuff like this) was triggered. 🥴
The lady does indeed protest too much. Ollways.

He likes small people...oh lord. How fortunate he found you perched inside Twitter. 🙄
 
Sali is so desperate to find any reason to give what she does gravitas & seriousness. The fact is she’s barely ever been a journalist, she’s segued from writing tissue-thin articles about popular culture to reviewing beauty products to being an influencer. Nothing wrong with that, just own it. Stop trying to inflate it into something it’s not. Holocaust survivors being pleased with lipstick does not mean that being a salesperson for the beauty industry is a noble calling or a feminist act. She’s so pretentious.
 
She comes across as someone with a massive intellectual insecurity chip on her shoulder. Lack of higher education and engaging with a superficial, admittedly very well remunerated career, comes at a cost. Instead of owning who she is, SH spews constant superiority in every direction to somehow make herself believe it’s all worthwhile. IMO she is clever enough to have gone down a different route career-wise and keeps wondering about the what ifs.
 
Foxvint said:
Correct me if I'm on the wrong track or reading too much into it here but if dan is Jewish and she isn't, isn't it a bit inappropriate for her to go on about him having a big nose given that's a harmful racial stereotype that's been used in foul antisemitic propaganda for hundreds of years?
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Especially as this "big nose" seems to be all in her head and completely imagined. But, of course, I'm forgetting that for wee Sali everything is big*. 🧚‍♂️

*"said the actress to the bishop" *ba dum tss* 🥁
 
Mselvista said:
Nevermind the bus, was SH on the train for Lisa Eldridge's latest lipstick launch? On lots of IG stories atm.
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I am unsure if She Here was on LE's launch train. I viewed LE's 'gram story, and I saw no evidence of SH on board. Alexis and Christina from thelibsticklesbians have posted a great, short interview with LE on the train, where she explains her rationale and process for creating a refillable lipstick. I love the concept, but the price is a bit out of control, and the colors--which she made deliberately wearable as "everyday" shades--are boring and too blah for my deep skin tone. To be honest my cheap self was eyeing the self contained refills and thinking, "Can I just buy one of those (Ribbon, the only color that would suit me) and use it on its own without needing the expensive case?"
 
AlwaysSummer said:
She comes across as someone with a massive intellectual insecurity chip on her shoulder. Lack of higher education and engaging with a superficial, admittedly very well remunerated career, comes at a cost. Instead of owning who she is, SH spews constant superiority in every direction to somehow make herself believe it’s all worthwhile. IMO she is clever enough to have gone down a different route career-wise and keeps wondering about the what ifs.
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Or she could just do her current job well? There can be depth in talking about beauty and the business of beauty - she could write about image, about formulations, product safety, sustainability, green chemistry, small businesses, monopolisation of the business, distribution - there’s a lot, if she was actually clever enough she could have done a lot in her chosen path
 
atheistnun said:
I am unsure if She Here was on LE's launch train. I viewed LE's 'gram story, and I saw no evidence of SH on board. Alexis and Christina from thelibsticklesbians have posted a great, short interview with LE on the train, where she explains her rationale and process for creating a refillable lipstick. I love the concept, but the price is a bit out of control, and the colors--which she made deliberately wearable as "everyday" shades--are boring and too blah for my deep skin tone. To be honest my cheap self was eyeing the self contained refills and thinking, "Can I just buy one of those (Ribbon, the only color that would suit me) and use it on its own without needing the expensive case?"
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Love LE but I won’t be buying the new lipsticks. I may be in a minority but the original lipstick formulas - both the matte and the sheer ones where a bit blah on my lips. Also seeing that she did an influencer launch on the Pullman train is a big turnoff.

Recently bought the new Prada Monochrome matte lipsticks which ain’t cheep at £39 with a case and £31 for refill, they are such an incredible formula and sublime shades. Shade P155 is similar to the Audrey shade in Lisa’s range.
 
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