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Looking at this marathon investigation into Kate Carter again and I see she's also wearing two watches, regardless of if her Garmin dies or not she's clearly wearing another watch for a reason? The other thing I've noticed in there's a photo of her in the first mile as you can see the London Eye in the back as she's going over Waterloo Bridge and the guy she's running with is blurred out. However it's easy to identify him as Kieran from 'the run testers' and she later claims to have used his GPS as they finished together, which is true as he's in the finish line photos. So this makes me wonder if he too has put a false time in as they're clearly together at the start and at the finish or has she cut the course and cheated and just happened to join again near him so there's no suspicion? :unsure:
 
Looking at this marathon investigation into Kate Carter again and I see she's also wearing two watches, regardless of if her Garmin dies or not she's clearly wearing another watch for a reason? The other thing I've noticed in there's a photo of her in the first mile as you can see the London Eye in the back as she's going over Waterloo Bridge and the guy she's running with is blurred out. However it's easy to identify him as Kieran from 'the run testers' and she later claims to have used his GPS as they finished together, which is true as he's in the finish line photos. So this makes me wonder if he too has put a false time in as they're clearly together at the start and at the finish or has she cut the course and cheated and just happened to join again near him so there's no suspicion? :unsure:
I think the latter, his times are faster than hers but she has a fast 10k in the middle where she skips a mat and ends up finishing in the same time?? Also, you can tell she deliberately folded her number as the safety pins have been moved it's a shame we can't see the distance run on her watch at the end.
 
I think the latter, his times are faster than hers but she has a fast 10k in the middle where she skips a mat and ends up finishing in the same time?? Also, you can tell she deliberately folded her number as the safety pins have been moved it's a shame we can't see the distance run on her watch at the end.
Yeah true and I’ve met Kieran at a couple of events when I lived in the south a few years ago and he’s lovely and a genuine runner so I didn’t want to think my first thought about him. Just seemed so weird and convenient that they are in my photos at mile one and then the finish line, she timed this very well and has used him in name and for his true run and GPS and needs to be held accountable!!
 
Kate Carter has deleted her Twitter in the last half hour. I was just having a snoop, went to see if she'd liked any tweets recently (she hadn't tweeted since Jan 27 when the story broke) and it said the account didn't exist.

If she really is innocent, this is an odd way to behave.
So twitter and IG accounts gone in the last 24hrs means she knows she’s fucked up and I’m sure given her job she may well find she’s fucked a lot of that too! Cheaters and liars always get found out in the end
 
Kate is still on Strava as a 'verified' athlete, part of which means adhering to certain standards. One of those is:

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Looking at this marathon investigation into Kate Carter again and I see she's also wearing two watches, regardless of if her Garmin dies or not she's clearly wearing another watch for a reason? The other thing I've noticed in there's a photo of her in the first mile as you can see the London Eye in the back as she's going over Waterloo Bridge and the guy she's running with is blurred out. However it's easy to identify him as Kieran from 'the run testers' and she later claims to have used his GPS as they finished together, which is true as he's in the finish line photos. So this makes me wonder if he too has put a false time in as they're clearly together at the start and at the finish or has she cut the course and cheated and just happened to join again near him so there's no suspicion? :unsure:

His result seems totally legit. He got to 10K in 43 minutes (Kate was 48) so he was already around 5 minutes ahead of her at half way, and he has a legit 15K mat split too.

But somehow she's quite a way ahead of him on the Embankment, and he catches her up quickly and they run across Westminster Bridge together (check the photos, they ran that bit together chatting). So how did she catch and pass him by such a lot in the second 10K while doing the bib thing? It looks like he had to slow down to run with her too, because she was running 5min/km pace by then and he had been going faster than that.

I would guess she spun him the "my watch died! Can I borrow your file because we ran the same time?" story.
 
Does anyone follow Natasha Cockram? Elite marathon runner and an absolute breath of fresh air that all the influencers could learn so much from.
Think she has a full time job, marathon trains at elite level (2.26 marathoner), fits training in after work, think she has horses & dogs to look after too. Very hard working, humble and no fancy gimmicks like CBD roll on or whatever the latest fad is
I really like her, she probably has her hands full with the animals alone, let alone her job and training, yet manages to fit it all in, without doing over the top ads or attention seeking content, like some of the elite seem to do.
I think it was her, when London Marathon became a lap course during Covid, she was asked on her opinion of course and said laps suited her because all her training was done around a 1 mile ish loop for safety reasons as she had to train in dark/alone. How many elite/running influencers would moan about them and get fancy set up or spend weeks at training camps.
 
His result seems totally legit. He got to 10K in 43 minutes (Kate was 48) so he was already around 5 minutes ahead of her at half way, and he has a legit 15K mat split too.

But somehow she's quite a way ahead of him on the Embankment, and he catches her up quickly and they run across Westminster Bridge together (check the photos, they ran that bit together chatting). So how did she catch and pass him by such a lot in the second 10K while doing the bib thing? It looks like he had to slow down to run with her too, because she was running 5min/km pace by then and he had been going faster than that.

I would guess she spun him the "my watch died! Can I borrow your file because we ran the same time?" story.
Are you on about the Landmarks Half here? She must have jumped a barrier at some point surely? I’ve not run it, but the map online makes it look possible. It wouldn’t surprise me if she did the same at London, but if she had worn a chip it would have made it really obvious given where they put the timing mats.
 
Ok long time lurker first time poster here, just piping up because I’m perplexed.

WHY would a well respected, well liked, national journalist, six star majors, sub 3 hr marathoner cheat in order to secure (by her standards) a mediocre race time and a medal? I bet she has hundred of medals. If the LLHM was going tits up, why not quit or jog it in?

She has also been vocal about fairness (and Guardian-writer husband continues to be very vocal about fairness). It’s all just very strange.

Genuinely, does anyone have a theory as to why??
She’ll go dark now and we’ll never get an actual explanation. May as well speculate.
 
Are you on about the Landmarks Half here? She must have jumped a barrier at some point surely? I’ve not run it, but the map online makes it look possible. It wouldn’t surprise me if she did the same at London, but if she had worn a chip it would have made it really obvious given where they put the timing mats.
Yes, the Landmarks Half. I haven’t run it either; are there definitely barriers? Having run the London 10,000 and several others in the area, leaving the course shouldn’t be hard. There were plenty of stretches with no barriers in the ones I’ve run, even the 10,000 which London Marathon Events put on (not the same company as the one that does the LLMHM, of course).

If it were me and I wanted to replicate what seems to have happened here, I’d leave the course at about 11k and walk down to the Embankment. You could stop along the way, remove the bib and re-pin it in one of those little City of London streets. I used to live nearby and on the weekend, away from any large events like the race route, it’s next to deserted. You wouldn’t even have to hang about long before re-entering the race (and being caught by the 1:31-ish crowd). Back of the envelope maths on this but it works out as possible. Especially if your middle 10k split is implausible and you missed the 15k mat, all the way out at Tower Bridge.
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Ok long time lurker first time poster here, just piping up because I’m perplexed.

WHY would a well respected, well liked, national journalist, six star majors, sub 3 hr marathoner cheat in order to secure (by her standards) a mediocre race time and a medal? I bet she has hundred of medals. If the LLHM was going tits up, why not quit or jog it in?

She has also been vocal about fairness (and Guardian-writer husband continues to be very vocal about fairness). It’s all just very strange.

Genuinely, does anyone have a theory as to why??
She’ll go dark now and we’ll never get an actual explanation. May as well speculate.
The only plausible explanation seems to be concern about a lack of form impacting professional gains. tit is going bad in a race and instead of bowing out, you’re worried about how it looks and how things have been going and you decide to fake it, because it’s slower than your PB anyway, you’re not going to pretend to win, and “no one will ever know”. But it’s better than posting a 1:45 (the pace she was heading for in the first 10k, where she started pretty mid and was slowing down) when you’re a running industry professional and think you need to maintain some status.

It’s insane to me but I can see the rabbit hole someone could go down. But yes, this makes the least sense to me too.
 
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The Mail has written about it. https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...-boss-accused-fake-london-marathon-times.html

I wonder if she’ll try and deny it, it’s been quite a few days now and the rest of the media might join in now it’s in the mainstream press.
Her deleting her sm does not look good and won’t make an “ I was doing an investigation into cheating” excuse look very plausible. If her husband works at the Guardian sports too, they should have come out with that ASAP as damage limitation. As it is, it now looks shady AF and in my opinion she needs to own up.

She won’t though. After following Jack Monroe for years, you expect the worst.
 
Having run LLHM several times, there are a few opportunities to cut the course. There’s several parts that are out and backs with zero barriers across the road. You could literally step over the middle and join in with people a few miles in front of you.

The DM article throws up an interesting anomaly insuring London 2023. A TikTok’er ran the first 21k in 2:32, 35K in 2:41 and the full 42K in 3:40 something. The math simply doesn’t math.
 

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Yeah, it's the "why" I don't get. Clearly people do cheat, but you are surely only cheating yourself?
There was a lady on that Marathon Investigator site who had cheated Berlin (possibly) 2 or 3 times to qualify for Boston. All her other marathons before and after (including Boston itself) were like 5+ hours, yet she could do Berlin in about 3.40 (with a load of missing timing mats...). Why cheat to BQ when all your other times make the cheat time stand out like a sore thumb?! I couldn't do it, I had a dodgy Garmin result recently which gave me a 5k PB but I declined it from my PBs as I knew it was off and it would bother me not to have earned it.
 
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