Olivia Neill #12 Too lazy & missed her peak, new boyfriend nearly every week

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Deeznutslol said:
how is it ignorant for me to ask a genuine question about which language you would prefer her to use to make you feel more included?
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Your question was not genuine at all, it was invalidating. It’s not really an argument that Olivia does not acknowledge girls who are not exactly like her, so when i use a specific example of queer you all of a sudden need proof?
 
RenaM&M said:
Your question was not genuine at all, it was invalidating. It’s not really an argument that Olivia does not acknowledge girls who are not exactly like her, so when i use a specific example of queer you all of a sudden need proof?
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Inclusive language has a large scope and some inclusive language is easier to incorporate into your daily speech than others. The example you gave of saying ‘boyfriend OR girlfriend’ is quite easy to incorporate, however there are other ‘inclusive’ phrases such as ‘uterus owner’ or ‘people who menstruate’ which are un-natural sounding and difficult to say without sounding like you’re trying to sound as if you’re trying to be woke.
That is why I asked you which inclusive language you would prefer her to use, not because I was trying to invalidate you or ask you to prove anything.
This is a discussion forum where we discuss our opinions on influencers, ik you’re new to tattle but if you can’t have a discussion with others without throwing out personal insults when someone disagrees with you, you’ll just end up getting banned.
 
Deeznutslol said:
Inclusive language has a large scope and some inclusive language is easier to incorporate into your daily speech than others. The example you gave of saying ‘boyfriend OR girlfriend’ is quite easy to incorporate, however there are other ‘inclusive’ phrases such as ‘uterus owner’ or ‘people who menstruate’ which are un-natural sounding and difficult to say without sounding like you’re trying to sound as if you’re trying to be woke.
That is why I asked you which inclusive language you would prefer her to use, not because I was trying to invalidate you or ask you to prove anything.
This is a discussion forum where we discuss our opinions on influencers, ik you’re new to tattle but if you can’t have a discussion with others without throwing out personal insults when someone disagrees with you, you’ll just end up getting banned.
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omg as if i ever expected any sane person to say “uterus-owner” I thought i made it quite obvious i was only talking about general inclusiveness as i said many times, this wasn’t a hard thing to do. And i was clearly able to have a decent discussion with everyone else, but i found your comment a little offensive. So keep your threats of being banned to yourself.
 
RenaM&M said:
omg as if i ever expected any sane person to say “uterus-owner” I thought i made it quite obvious i was only talking about general inclusiveness as i said many times, this wasn’t a hard thing to do. And i was clearly able to have a decent discussion with everyone else, but i found your comment a little offensive. So keep your threats of being banned to yourself.
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No offence but you may want to stay away from commenting if you’re so easily offended
 
RenaM&M said:
omg as if i ever expected any sane person to say “uterus-owner” I thought i made it quite obvious i was only talking about general inclusiveness as i said many times, this wasn’t a hard thing to do. And i was clearly able to have a decent discussion with everyone else, but i found your comment a little offensive. So keep your threats of being banned to yourself.
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I mean, I have literally seen many people on twitter insist that anyone who uses ‘woman’ instead of ‘uterus owner’ when the topic of periods is discussed is a transphobe 😂.
I’m not sure why you’ve taken offence to my comment as it wasn’t offensive. It was literally a question as to what you would prefer her to say.

I didn’t threaten you, I just told you how the site works. If you come on here to disrupt the threads by starting arguments and insulting people who disagree with you, the mods will ban you.
 
Deeznutslol said:
I mean, I have literally seen many people on twitter insist that anyone who uses ‘woman’ instead of ‘uterus owner’ when the topic of periods is discussed is a transphobe 😂.
I’m not sure why you’ve taken offence to my comment as it wasn’t offensive. It was literally a question as to what you would prefer her to say.

I didn’t threaten you, I just told you how the site works. If you come on here to disrupt the threads by starting arguments and insulting people who disagree with you, the mods will ban you.
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But i was having a genuine progressive conversation with users before you, so i don’t think the problem is me. Even if you didn’t mean to undermine me, your question did seem like it. And that’s not being easily offended as it is a sensitive topic, we are talking about peoples sexuality here, I know it’s a massive part of my identity and I’ve dealt with enough surrounding it. I only came on here to point out that Olivia is not inclusive in a general way, i don’t really see what’s to “disagree” with that or why any sort of proof was needed.
 
RenaM&M said:
But i was having a genuine progressive conversation with users before you, so i don’t think the problem is me. Even if you didn’t mean to undermine me, your question did seem like it. And that’s not being easily offended as it a sensitive topic, we are talking about peoples sexuality here, I know it’s a massive part of my identity and I’ve dealt with enough surrounding it. I only came on here to point out that Olivia is not inclusive in a general way, i don’t really see what’s to “disagree” with that or why any sort of proof was needed.
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Offence can only be taken, not given, and if you choose to take offence from someone simply showing interest in your opinion and asking you for further clarification, then that isn’t my problem.
I have been perfectly polite to you throughout this discussion, yet you have insulted me multiple times and you keep accusing me of things I haven’t done, I never asked you for ‘proof’ of anything so I don’t get why you keep insisting that I did.
 
Maybe we can all agree that it really wouldn't be that hard for Olivia or influencers in general to not just speak as though everyone is straight? She is clearly just extremely self absorbed that she doesn't consider someone else's lived experience, she could just be better at saying "partner" instead of always boyfriend, or "the person you like" instead of always "the boy". She doesn't need to actually speak on the experience of being queer to be more inclusive.

It's not hard to imagine why people feel a bit excluded by constant "boy talk" if they're not into boys lol when it could just be relationship talk more generally
 
Deeznutslol said:
Offence can only be taken, not given, and if you choose to take offence from someone simply showing interest in your opinion and asking you for further clarification, then that isn’t my problem.
I have been perfectly polite to you throughout this discussion, yet you have insulted me multiple times and you keep accusing me of things I haven’t done, I never asked you for ‘proof’ of anything so I don’t get why you keep insisting that I did.
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i don’t feel like you’ve been very polite nor did it come across you were interested in my opinion, rather that you were doubting my opinion was even valid. Maybe i have reacted defensively but as i said before it’s an incredibly sensitive conversation. My general point is, Olivia lacks the ability to acknowledge other communities that she is not a part of whether this be the queer community or ethnic minorities to the point where she does not befriend these people or include them in her fanbase or conversations.

CloudMeringue said:
Maybe we can all agree that it really wouldn't be that hard for Olivia or influencers in general to not just speak as though everyone is straight? She is clearly just extremely self absorbed that she doesn't consider someone else's lived experience, she could just be better at saying "partner" instead of always boyfriend, or "the person you like" instead of always "the boy". She doesn't need to actually speak on the experience of being queer to be more inclusive.
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yes i agree, literally my whole point.
 
RenaM&M said:
i don’t feel like you’ve been very polite nor did it come across you were interested in my opinion, rather that you were doubting my opinion was even valid. Maybe i have reacted defensively but as i said before it’s an incredibly sensitive conversation. My general point is, Olivia lacks the ability to acknowledge other communities that she is not a part of whether this be the queer community or ethnic minorities to the point where she does not befriend these people or include them in her fanbase or conversations.
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Look, I’m going to be honest with you here, if you’re here to seek validation for your opinions then you’re going to be bitterly disappointed.
We’re all anon users on this site and people are free to openly disagree with your opinions if they like, regardless of whether if it’s a sensitive topic for you or not.
The funniest thing is, I actually don’t disagree with the point that Olivia could use inclusive language, so there’s no point in trying to argue that I disagree with you as I don’t!
I just simply asked for clarification on what it was specifically that would make you feel included ☺️.

RenaM&M said:
I’m not here to seek validation from my opinions lol.
So you’re saying you disagree and think Olivia is inclusive? or you think being inclusive isn’t important?
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Why do you assume that I’m saying either of these two things? I literally just asked you for clarification on which language you’d prefer her to use.
 
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Deeznutslol said:
Who has disagreed with you?
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Literally you kept saying for so long, i can’t handle people disagreeing with me which implies you disagree. And now you’re saying you do agree. I don’t care anymore whether you disagree/agree, whatever. It’s really not your opinion I care about, maybe i misinterpreted your question and decided to speak up cause i don’t understand why you needed examples of more inclusive terms unless you were trying to pick apart my point.

You love to drag it on don’t you but i won’t reply to another message you send.

doodlebug said:
Guys please. Give a rest now.

If she starts using more inclusive language now, we’ll know she, or someone on her team, reads here 😈 all she needs to say tbh is “I’m into boys so that’s how I’m going to be phrasing the discussion but the same applies if you’re into girls”
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i actually feel she doesn’t read here that much as you’d think she’d be a little more thoughtful of her actions/words but she seems to constantly repeat toxic behaviours that have been called out on here
 
RenaM&M said:
Literally you kept saying for so long, i can’t handle people disagreeing with me which implies you disagree. And now you’re saying you do agree. I don’t care anymore whether you disagree/agree, whatever. It’s really not your opinion I care about, maybe i misinterpreted your question and decided to speak up cause i don’t understand why you needed examples of more inclusive terms unless you were trying to pick apart my point.

You love to drag it on don’t you but i won’t reply to another message you send.


i actually feel she doesn’t read here that much as you’d think she’d be a little more thoughtful of her actions/words but she seems to constantly repeat toxic behaviours that have been called out on here
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I disagreed with your assertion that asking the question of ‘what would you prefer she said’ was ignorant/undermining/invalidating/anything else you accused me of being. At no point did I say I disagreed with your opinion, but if I did, that would also be fine as this is a discussion site. We don’t all have to agree with each other.
Yes you did misinterpret my question and I’m glad you can acknowledge that.
Let’s move on now anyway, I hope you have a good rest of your evening!
 
RenaM&M said:
i actually feel she doesn’t read here that much as you’d think she’d be a little more thoughtful of her actions/words but she seems to constantly repeat toxic behaviours that have been called out on here
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Yeah, I think if she read here she’d have a bit more self awareness and maybe stop talking about her dried bogies and other horrible habits so much, because she’d be able to understand that no one finds it funny or quirky and it just further clarified that she is a revolting beast at the best of times. She definitely used to read here at the start of her career though lmao, I remember I used to browse on here but didn’t have an account and her, Lewys and Flossie would come on here and comment things like “sharty poo girlie pop”
 
RenaM&M said:
Literally you kept saying for so long, i can’t handle people disagreeing with me which implies you disagree. And now you’re saying you do agree. I don’t care anymore whether you disagree/agree, whatever. It’s really not your opinion I care about, maybe i misinterpreted your question and decided to speak up cause i don’t understand why you needed examples of more inclusive terms unless you were trying to pick apart my point.

You love to drag it on don’t you but i won’t reply to another message you send.


i actually feel she doesn’t read here that much as you’d think she’d be a little more thoughtful of her actions/words but she seems to constantly repeat toxic behaviours that have been called out on here
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It’s like talking to a brick wall. Stop arguing with no one none of us wanna talk to you mate
 
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