Olivia Neill #12 Too lazy & missed her peak, new boyfriend nearly every week

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junehouse said:
See I used to be team Flossie 100% but honestly, all the stuff coming out now she just comes across as very oblivious to her actions. I feel for her though…I think she’s struggling with an ED and body dysmorphia. But the way she blasted someone’s name on her story, and then sent her a VERY passive aggressive voice note. I can’t back her actions anymore 🤷🏻‍♀️😞
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The main issue I have with Flossie is that she doesn’t even seem like herself anymore. Either she’s always been like this and was just good at hiding it, or she’s lost herself completely and changed for the worst. While I do sympathise with her in regards to her mental health and struggles with her body image, I really don’t like her as a person anymore. Olivia might be equally as insufferable these days but she’s made a good career for herself using her connections, whereas Flossie hasn’t done anything to progress her career.
 
user467875677 said:
Hey I'm new to this feed but what are people's ops on Olivia and Flossie like who do you all prefer? I always used to think Olivia was the witch but now i can proper imagine it being Flossie. Flossie does drugs n gets high most nights (confirmed) I'm not sure about Olivia but I suspect she's similar
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i originally used to watch just Olivia, and only followed Flossie when they moved in together
after they stopped being friends i still prefer Olivia's content and just honestly stopped watching Flossie
 
doodlebug said:
On that podcast, the guy was like “so you’re stopping YouTube” and she’s like “Yeah…well actually just taking a step back”. So she’s going to be uploading less than she already does.
(Basically what Olivia is doing)
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That’s just embarrassing on her behalf because the reason Olivia has stepped back is because she has all these new and honestly better opportunities to rebrand herself. Flossie is already rapidly losing what fanbase she has left and doesn’t seem to have anything on the side of doing YouTube apart from doing outfit tik toks that no one can afford or are just ugly
 
user467875677 said:
Hey I'm new to this feed but what are people's ops on Olivia and Flossie like who do you all prefer? I always used to think Olivia was the witch but now i can proper imagine it being Flossie. Flossie does drugs n gets high most nights (confirmed) I'm not sure about Olivia but I suspect she's similar
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I watched Flossie wayyy longer and then loved them together but tbh flossies videos have always been glaringly boring so i def prefer Olivia i just think she more interesting and more ambitious?? Idk flossies old videos were literallly just about clubbing with the smallest dash of genuineness

laulau29 said:
Anyone else get fruity vibes from her and tilly
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lmfao tilly has a bf ?
 
Hey, just made an account, but I've been following this thread for a while.

I was wandering if anyone else got the sense Olivia is NOT as much of a "girls girl" as she claims to be. She constantly tries to act as if she loves all women, yet makes nasty comments such as the pad one and only seems to acknowledge skinny, influencer-wannabe, heterosexual, white or even white washed girls. I noticed at the end of her recent podcast ep she mentioned she won't dye her hair brown as she feels only girls would find that attractive whilst men won't give her attention anymore, then jumps to her defence by immediately claiming she doesn't care about the male gaze or doesn't value male validation over female validation. But I really do not get the impression she is a girls girl at all, she definitely comes across as an attention-seeking little girl who only cares about boys.

Also, just as a gay woman, I do not feel included in her audience. She doesn't seem to care that queer women exist, it's as if all girls should be interested in boys and if there are girls that are not interested in boys, then she has no time for them. Relationships are ONLY addressed from a heterosexual perspective, which I do understand might be because that's all she relates to but I still feel as though it's not that difficult to be just a bit more inclusive. If she wants to give relationship/dating advice or ask fans questions about their experiences, it doesn't always have to be heterosexual relationships only.
 
RenaM&M said:
Hey, just made an account, but I've been following this thread for a while.

I was wandering if anyone else got the sense Olivia is NOT as much of a "girls girl" as she claims to be. She constantly tries to act as if she loves all women, yet makes nasty comments such as the pad one and only seems to acknowledge skinny, influencer-wannabe, heterosexual, white or even white washed girls. I noticed at the end of her recent podcast ep she mentioned she won't dye her hair brown as she feels only girls would find that attractive whilst men won't give her attention anymore, then jumps to her defence by immediately claiming she doesn't care about the male gaze or doesn't value male validation over female validation. But I really do not get the impression she is a girls girl at all, she definitely comes across as an attention-seeking little girl who only cares about boys.

Also, just as a gay woman, I do not feel included in her audience. She doesn't seem to care that queer women exist, it's as if all girls should be interested in boys and if there are girls that are not interested in boys, then she has no time for them. Relationships are ONLY addressed from a heterosexual perspective, which I do understand might be because that's all she relates to but I still feel as though it's not that difficult to be just a bit more inclusive. If she wants to give relationship/dating advice or ask fans questions about their experiences, it doesn't always have to be heterosexual relationships only.
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whilst i see where you're coming from and agree with 95% of it, i would rather she didn't speak on what she doesn't understand and potentially say something offensive/harmful towards the queer community. i am queer too, but i don't watch olivia's content for that kind of point of view, i know she is only going to talk about the straight experience because that is all she understands. i agree it wouldn't be difficult to use more inclusive language when talking about relationships, but i do not want or need to hear olivia's opinions on queer topics/issues - i would look elsewhere.

also defo see your point on her not being as much of a girls girl as she claims / portrays herself to be, but are we really surprised?
 
stroopwafellllsszzz said:
whilst i see where you're coming from and agree with 95% of it, i would rather she didn't speak on what she doesn't understand and potentially say something offensive/harmful towards the queer community. i am queer too, but i don't watch olivia's content for that kind of point of view, i know she is only going to talk about the straight experience because that is all she understands. i agree it wouldn't be difficult to use more inclusive language when talking about relationships, but i do not want or need to hear olivia's opinions on queer topics/issues - i would look elsewhere.

also defo see your point on her not being as much of a girls girl as she claims / portrays herself to be, but are we really surprised?
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I understand what you're saying about Olivia not speaking on topics she doesn't understand. But im not asking for her to understand, im asking for her to acknowledge. The issue is just that she has never once spoke about relationships that are not heterosexual. Whilst I understand she is straight so her own personal relationships will obviously be in heterosexual terms, I don't understand why she assumes all her fans are also straight, she assumes every girl is also interested in boys and its just honestly a little hurtful as I used to be a big fan, she was my favourite youtuber, and now i've had to accept that she does not care for having fans that are part of the LGBTQ+ community, especially not female fans that don't obsess over boys like she does.
 
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RenaM&M said:
I understand what you're saying about Olivia not speaking on topics she doesn't understand. But im not asking for her to understand, im asking for her to acknowledge. The issue is just that she has never once spoke about relationships that are not heterosexual. Whilst I understand she is straight so her own personal relationships will obviously be in heterosexual terms, I don't understand why she assumes all her fans are also straight, she assumes every girl is also interested in boys and its just honestly a little hurtful as I used to be a big fan, she was my favourite youtuber, and now i've had to accept that she does not care for having fans that are part of the LGBTQ+ community, especially not female fans that don't obsess over boys like she does.
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completely understand and agree with you, acknowledgment really isn’t difficult - guessing olivia doesn’t do much thinking outside her own personal sphere of experience tho
 
RenaM&M said:
I understand what you're saying about Olivia not speaking on topics she doesn't understand. But im not asking for her to understand, im asking for her to acknowledge. The issue is just that she has never once spoke about relationships that are not heterosexual. Whilst I understand she is straight so her own personal relationships will obviously be in heterosexual terms, I don't understand why she assumes all her fans are also straight, she assumes every girl is also interested in boys and its just honestly a little hurtful as I used to be a big fan, she was my favourite youtuber, and now i've had to accept that she does not care for having fans that are part of the LGBTQ+ community, especially not female fans that don't obsess over boys like she does.
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Im sorry but if she acknowledged all this stuff she'd get absolutely butchered on here for not doing enough or being fake etc..she speaks from her own standpoint as a white heterosexual girl so obviously that is what she is comfortable talking about in depth...she cant start speaking from the perspective of someone part of the LGBT etc if she's not part of it and people hardly listen to her for a debate or something intellectually stimulating lol
 
RenaM&M said:
I understand what you're saying about Olivia not speaking on topics she doesn't understand. But im not asking for her to understand, im asking for her to acknowledge. The issue is just that she has never once spoke about relationships that are not heterosexual. Whilst I understand she is straight so her own personal relationships will obviously be in heterosexual terms, I don't understand why she assumes all her fans are also straight, she assumes every girl is also interested in boys and its just honestly a little hurtful as I used to be a big fan, she was my favourite youtuber, and now i've had to accept that she does not care for having fans that are part of the LGBTQ+ community, especially not female fans that don't obsess over boys like she does.
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I don’t know if this makes sense but she also gives me the vibe that she only befriends queer men but wouldn’t be friends with a queer woman lol

queencarmen said:
Im sorry but if she acknowledged all this stuff she'd get absolutely butchered on here for not doing enough or being fake etc..she speaks from her own standpoint as a white heterosexual girl so obviously that is what she is comfortable talking about in depth...she cant start speaking from the perspective of someone part of the LGBT etc if she's not part of it and people hardly listen to her for a debate or something intellectually stimulating lol
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I agree with this because I can’t imagine her saying anything valuable on this topic when she clearly can’t relate, it would feel very performative and unnecessary because her podcasts are about her personal experiences
 
queencarmen said:
Im sorry but if she acknowledged all this stuff she'd get absolutely butchered on here for not doing enough or being fake etc..she speaks from her own standpoint as a white heterosexual girl so obviously that is what she is comfortable talking about in depth...she cant start speaking from the perspective of someone part of the LGBT etc if she's not part of it and people hardly listen to her for a debate or something intellectually stimulating lol
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And who's asking her to speak from the perspective of? I am only saying I have noticed she fails to acknowledge not every girl is straight and does not use inclusive terms. She has a platform where she addresses tens of thousands of girls as being straight just because she is, which I honestly just dont feel is okay. I'm not saying she needs to give bare lectures or ted talks on LGBTQ+ issues.

lethscsmofdero said:
I don’t know if this makes sense but she also gives me the vibe that she only befriends queer men but wouldn’t be friends with a queer woman lol


I agree with this because I can’t imagine her saying anything valuable on this topic when she clearly can’t relate, it would feel very performative and unnecessary because her podcasts are about her personal experiences
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Definitely agree with the only befriending queer men comment. She comes across as she almost doesn’t think gay girls are actually real or something.
 
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RenaM&M said:
And who's asking her to speak from the perspective of? I am only saying I have noticed she fails to acknowledge not every girl is straight and does not use inclusive terms. She has a platform where she addresses tens of thousands of girls as being straight just because she is, which I honestly just dont feel is okay. I'm not saying she needs to give bare lectures or ted talks on LGBTQ+ issues.
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Which terms does she use that are exclusive and what would you prefer that she used instead?
 
Deeznutslol said:
Which terms does she use that are exclusive and what would you prefer that she used instead?
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I’m not too sure but I think they probably mean when she refers to her audience as “girls” and then goes onto say something about boys and then says a something along the lines “girls you’ve probably done this to a boy before”. I just think that because she’s speaking from her own experience, and she’s straight she is probably going to reference boys a fair bit. It would sound quite strange if she was going out of her way to ensure that she’s being super inclusive and using gender neutral terms. From my understanding, her podcast is just unfiltered babble, so it would seem very inauthentic if she was meticulously planning everything she wanted to say just to avoid offending people.

Not to invalidate anybody’s feelings bud I kind of think this is a non issue
 
Deeznutslol said:
Which terms does she use that are exclusive and what would you prefer that she used instead?
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Here we go with that one ignorant person who always needs specific examples. If I feel excluded from her audience it’s obviously for a reason, i’m not victimising myself here. I’m just part of a community that I wish more influencers would acknowledge even if they are not also included in that community. Yes, she’s straight so she is going to talk about relationships from that pov, but when she addresses her female fans she literally always assumes they’re all straight as well. An example of this is when she’s addressing her female fans, she’ll specifically use the term “boyfriend” a more inclusive term would be partner/significant other etc or even just she could say boyfriend OR girlfriend.

lethscsmofdero said:
I’m not too sure but I think they probably mean when she refers to her audience as “girls” and then goes onto say something about boys and then says a something along the lines “girls you’ve probably done this to a boy before”. I just think that because she’s speaking from her own experience, and she’s straight she is probably going to reference boys a fair bit. It would sound quite strange if she was going out of her way to ensure that she’s being super inclusive and using gender neutral terms. From my understanding, her podcast is just unfiltered babble, so it would seem very inauthentic if she was meticulously planning everything she wanted to say just to avoid offending people.

Not to invalidate anybody’s feelings bud I kind of think this is a non issue
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This is what i mean, but i really don’t expect her to “go out of her way to be super inclusive”, it’s just that she’s NEVER inclusive and it’s made me feel un-included in her audience almost, like i’m not part of the conversation if that makes sense.
 
RenaM&M said:
Here we go with that one ignorant person who always needs specific examples. If I feel excluded from her audience it’s obviously for a reason, i’m not victimising myself here. I’m just part of a community that I wish more influencers would acknowledge even if they are not also included in that community. Yes, she’s straight so she is going to talk about relationships from that pov, but when she addresses her female fans she literally always assumes they’re all straight as well. An example of this is when she’s addressing her female fans, she’ll specifically use the term “boyfriend” a more inclusive term would be partner/significant other etc or even just she could say boyfriend OR girlfriend.
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how is it ignorant for me to ask a genuine question about which language you would prefer her to use to make you feel more included?
 
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