Niomi Smart #4 where did Joey goey?

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Anyone else think Joe might of felt suffocated by her? This could of been his first super serious relationship. She wanted a full on, serious relationship, she wanted marriage and kids as soon as possible I think which is completely fine and normal for a woman of her age but maybe it was just too much pressure for him in the end, he realised maybe they were quite different and he bottled it. It happens a lottt!
 
Hi! I’ve read here for so long but never posted. I can’t help but feel devastated for her :cry: she obviously is heartbroken, she did do SO much for him and she moulded herself to be what he wanted, which is so sad. We’ve all tried to fit in with *that* guy/gal, right?! I feel like she had her whole life figured out (with I’m assuming his blessing) then he dropped India on her. In their video about going to India it was clear he was going with or without her. She plastered a smile on and didn’t complain, I don’t think many could do that.

Lots of people in this thread seem to be painting Niomi as workshy and the ‘problem’ but I personally disagree. Yes she is extremely privileged and her busiest weeks are what some of us have to do in an afternoon, but in comparison to many other influencers I think she actually does do a lot and tries really hard to provide. Her family have a lot of money but Joe’s family are extremely well off too, I always thought he had that ‘rugby guy at uni’ energy - the posh one who thought he could get whatever he wanted because of daddy. He seems really arrogant and I don’t think he was as shy as people said. She’s done nothing different; she did YouTube long before she met him and he signed into that life too. Hes a grown up and I think he treated her like a bit of a skivvy sometimes; he was her world and she was his ‘now’ 😕
 
QueenDecember said:
I think right now Niomi absolutely WANTS Joe following her. And I can’t say I blame her. It’s not the most mature thing sure, but who could resist trying to appear happily embracing FREEDOM after being dumped. 💃🏻💃🏻

She clearly made him a big priority in her life when I don’t think we can really say the same for him. Joe always just seemed happy to have her along but not like he’d run after her if she wasn’t.

Oh gosh Niomi! I hope she goes wild. 🤗🤗 Starts going out and kissing other guys on her stories 😂😂
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yeh her fauning over him all the time did imply that she viewed herself as punching, as others have said, but I don't relly getvwhy as I'd say they are both basically the same
 
rjf123 said:
Hi! I’ve read here for so long but never posted. I can’t help but feel devastated for her :cry: she obviously is heartbroken, she did do SO much for him and she moulded herself to be what he wanted, which is so sad. We’ve all tried to fit in with *that* guy/gal, right?! I feel like she had her whole life figured out (with I’m assuming his blessing) then he dropped India on her. In their video about going to India it was clear he was going with or without her. She plastered a smile on and didn’t complain, I don’t think many could do that.

Lots of people in this thread seem to be painting Niomi as workshy and the ‘problem’ but I personally disagree. Yes she is extremely privileged and her busiest weeks are what some of us have to do in an afternoon, but in comparison to many other influencers I think she actually does do a lot and tries really hard to provide. Her family have a lot of money but Joe’s family are extremely well off too, I always thought he had that ‘rugby guy at uni’ energy - the posh one who thought he could get whatever he wanted because of daddy. He seems really arrogant and I don’t think he was as shy as people said. She’s done nothing different; she did YouTube long before she met him and he signed into that life too. Hes a grown up and I think he treated her like a bit of a skivvy sometimes; he was her world and she was his ‘now’ 😕
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We'll never know for sure but I never got the vibe that he was arrogant!
 
Has Niomi Smart ever been so interesting? 😂

I feel bad for her if she was dumped out of the blue with no warning signs. I'm not happy she was dumped (if that's the case) but I do take comfort in the sense that when we're comparing our lives to others on SM, it should all be taken with an absolute pinch of salt. I'll never catch myself getting envious again.
 
Eh

I don't know why people think he literally called off an engagement because of her eating habits. Being vegan and a bit controlling with food, obviously not great. But it's not new? He knew that when he proposed. Also not worth ending a 2/3 relationship over.

Thinking back on everything, I actually back Niomi. Like she always adjusted her plans for his. He wanted to go to India, so she followed. He worked a lot and she was always planning surprises and dinners ( Seen in Vlogmas) for him.

I can't think of a single thing he did that was a thoughtful gift or a compromise for her, not just throwing money at her. Like sure flower deliveries are nice, but not personalized or thoughtful.

Maybe eating vegan? But even then, was that just because she was cooking and he would rather eat her food, rather than cook himself? Seems like it was out of convenience, rather than a choice.

I can understand her comments about "finding herself" now, she rearranged her life for him and he didn't seem to meet halfway. Seems like his career always came first.
 
barnetteve said:
Eh

I don't know why people think he literally called off an engagement because of her eating habits. Being vegan and a bit controlling with food, obviously not great. But it's not new? He knew that when he proposed. Also not worth ending a 2/3 relationship over.

Thinking back on everything, I actually back Niomi. Like she always adjusted her plans for his. He wanted to go to India, so she followed. He worked a lot and she was always planning surprises and dinners ( Seen in Vlogmas) for him.

I can't think of a single thing he did that was a thoughtful gift or a compromise for her, not just throwing money at her. Like sure flower deliveries are nice, but not personalized or thoughtful.

Maybe eating vegan? But even then, was that just because she was cooking and he would rather eat her food, rather than cook himself? Seems like it was out of convenience, rather than a choice.

I can understand her comments about "finding herself" now, she rearranged her life for him and he didn't seem to meet halfway. Seems like his career always came first.
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i think it's probably a lot to do with lockdown andbeing together 24/7 which they never had before. they wont be the only couple to split up as a resukt of lockdown (judging by my neighbours constant arguing recently 😂)
 
In the early days of our marriage my husband used to stand at the end of our bed every weekend morning hassling me to get out of bed so we could enjoy the weekend - I wanted to lie in. I became a vegetarian and he, a dedicated carnivore, learned to tolerate my strictly veggie meals, I admit I tried to guilt him into not eating meat because I felt so passionately about it...he loved hill walking, I hated it but I did it because he loved it. Judging by some of the comments on this thread we could both be seen as controlling etc ( maybe we are ha ha!) . I think marriages and relationships have a lot of give and take if they are going to last. I’m so sad for Niomi, every time she said Joe’s name there was so much love in her voice. He knew she was a vlogger, he knew she was a fitness person, he knew she was vegan when they got together I can’t believe he broke off the engagement for those reasons. When Jim and Tanya divorced I felt their relationship had run it’s course but I didn’t see this break up coming . Maybe he just fell out of love?
 
From what we’ve seen I’m definitely team Niomi, I know someone came on here and said she was a bully but there were 0 facts along with that. So I’ll reserve judgement. I also know we think she’s selfish because she ran off on a 10k but he seemed to tell her to do it (maybe he just wanted 5 mins of peace). And yes, the smoothie bowl dancing/cake incident was a bit cringey but shes always been type a around food. That can’t be new, and he shouldn’t have proposed if he found that so annoying.

I think she completely moulded herself to fit in with him and his version of an ideal girlfriend/wife, she’s not the first person to do that. Sure he bought her some thoughtful cupcakes but when it came down to the major parts of a relationship she went along with him. We’ve seen that she can be sparky, but he made her more dull. We’ve seen that she can be messy, but she seemed to need to be perfect to keep him. And after all that he jilts her, after they have booked the venue and thousands of people have watched her ask her best friend to be made of honour. Of course he should break up with her, but imagine how much that must sting.

I hope she’s in her loaned jaguar somewhere between Sussex and Notting Hill doing an Amy Dunne monologue (minus the eventual murder).

 
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mgrgious said:
I’m sorry but pizza gate is a huge talked about thing.
Even if you do just love pizza you would take it out your description.
Alot of the people Pin pointed for pizza gate have had the exact same insta description.
I’m not a huge conspiracy theorist myself - I’ve heard of it and read a bit but not enough to consume me or for me to have an opinion on whether it is true or not -
I’m just saying - you wouldn’t keep that in your description.
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I'd consider myself pretty well informed generally and had never heard of this, i just had to google it. i don't think it's something everyone knows imo
 
She's started to make me cringe. Clearly your break wasn't the "perfect amount of time" offline Niomi. (What does that even mean...) She's putting up a hell of a "strong independent woman who don't need no man" show but this is the first time I've seen her engage with her audience this passionately. Stop trying to "show" Joe how happy you are and deal with your obvious troubles ffs. I find it so hard to feel complete sympathy for her when she's this smug even with her break-up. She needs to truly deal with this within her first. I understand her anger but seriously.
 
Sorry but I spend a fair amount of time online and have skimmed past some stuff around pizzagate - but genuinely couldn’t tell you what it is about. I think it’s a bit of a reach tbh, and i don’t think joe spends a huge amount online either judging by lack of posts etc.

Now for my main point: does anyone get complete Sex and the City vibes from their whole India thing. Like, when Carrie moves to Paris with the Russian guy and gives up her amazing NYC life but it just doesn’t work out and she sits in that beautiful room in that beautiful dress all alone ‘all dressed up and no petrovsky to go’ or whatever the line is 😂

I think it’s sad and she’s obviously hurting, but if the break up was only a matter of weeks ago, she may not have even truly realised the weight of what’s been lost yet - I know in my last breakup it was all boozy nights out dancing with my pals for weeks and after around 2 months came the crushing feeling of loss and the nights crying alone in bed 🤣

As much as Niomi irritates me sometimes with her perfect life etc I think it must be SO humiliating to share your engagement and relationship so publicly and to then have to share it with the world that it’s all gone tits up 😕
 
rjf123 said:
In their video about going to India it was clear he was going with or without her. She plastered a smile on and didn’t complain, I don’t think many could do that.

He was her world and she was his ‘now’ 😕
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She must have known that. Which might explain why she’s so devastated, she’s now looking back at last year when all the signs were there but he placated her with an engagement and she knows deep down they should have ended it then, but instead she wasted another almost year of her life on him. When she could have been in lockdown with her family and making her plans to start over.

While the circumstances may not be ideal I still don’t think he’s a bad guy. He’s entitled to change his mind.
 
Hey, can someone catch me up on pizza gate? I know I heart pizza is in Joeys bio but I don’t really understand why that’s a problem in itself... this thread is moving too fast!
 
rjf123 said:
Hi! I’ve read here for so long but never posted. I can’t help but feel devastated for her :cry: she obviously is heartbroken, she did do SO much for him and she moulded herself to be what he wanted, which is so sad. We’ve all tried to fit in with *that* guy/gal, right?! I feel like she had her whole life figured out (with I’m assuming his blessing) then he dropped India on her. In their video about going to India it was clear he was going with or without her. She plastered a smile on and didn’t complain, I don’t think many could do that.

Lots of people in this thread seem to be painting Niomi as workshy and the ‘problem’ but I personally disagree. Yes she is extremely privileged and her busiest weeks are what some of us have to do in an afternoon, but in comparison to many other influencers I think she actually does do a lot and tries really hard to provide. Her family have a lot of money but Joe’s family are extremely well off too, I always thought he had that ‘rugby guy at uni’ energy - the posh one who thought he could get whatever he wanted because of daddy. He seems really arrogant and I don’t think he was as shy as people said. She’s done nothing different; she did YouTube long before she met him and he signed into that life too. Hes a grown up and I think he treated her like a bit of a skivvy sometimes; he was her world and she was his ‘now’ 😕
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Ladies - this is why you NEVER make a guy your whole life. I've seen this happen too many times. Don't ever mould yourself for a man because he will end up losing respect for you.

I have lost so many friends because they disappear once they get a boyfriend, then suddenly appear again when they've been broken up with.

Niomi always said things like "This is OUR favorite cafe", "OUR this and that". No! Be your own person.
 
I think Joe probably did have judgements and harsh opinions about her career and content choices, which explains the previous video "An honest chat about influencers" or whatever it was. He had a large hand to play in her positive experience of India, and that really came from a place of love. It seems like he encouraged her to at least consider expanding her mental horizons beyond the vegan food in her plate and the sustainable exercise clothes on her back. Not Niomi's cup of fennel tea :')

I'm sad to admit that whenever I would see her idolizing Joe, I would think how much it would have affected her to grow up without a father figure. She clearly had very little idea of how to let him be and how to let him be himself. Presenting an image of independence now doesn't mask the fact that the extent of her personal development in the past few years is a few wobbly yoga poses. I can't remember what she was like with Marcus but if making a guy feel trapped in a relationship is her strategy, she's lucky her engagement fell through.

She probably has a lot of pre-recorded bland material ready to go, so maybe her grieving period was longer than we know.
 
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