Niomi Smart #4 where did Joey goey?

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anon1405 said:
Hey, can someone catch me up on pizza gate? I know I heart pizza is in Joeys bio but I don’t really understand why that’s a problem in itself... this thread is moving too fast!
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It’s really not relevant. It’s a conspiracy theory about Hilary Clinton running a pedophile ring. Joey having a pizza emoji in his bio has been linked to it for absolutely no reason at all. Literally as we were.
 
I don’t know if I want to be on a team when it comes to breakups? I guess I think everyone has their flaws and it seems like Lockdown brought internal issues in their relationship to a head (as it has for lots of couples). Its a sucky outcome for both of them. I’m sure Joe is grieving the end of their relationship just as much as Niomi is, even if he was the one that ended it.

Post-Marcus Niomi was fun to watch, she seemed to really be enjoying her life (with its myriad privileges) so I am excited to see what Post-Joe Niomi is like.
 
Regarding Niomi sacrificing her career for him, if we could even call being an influencer career, I think she benefited immensely from his connections and association with him. I remember watching a few of her videos and dozing off and then becoming interested when I saw her picture on a M. Markle topic, when it was rumoured that Markle was chasing Harry to commit and showed up uninvited to Wimbledon to stalk him (allegedly), I opened the pic and there's Niomi watching the match alongside 'creme de la creme' of society, then I saw the video of Niomi invited to give a speech at some royal awards (Duke of Edinburgh?) event; I remember wondering what she does to be so important and googling that she had a law degree but then still became successful in media bla bla. Only later I read here about the royal connections/Woodwards moving in the right circles... Then I found another photo of younger prince Harry watching a match (don't know which sport lol) with the Woodwards and celebrating/hugging them (I don't live in the UK so all of this was new info for me).
She's a pretty girl, pleasant and cheerful but no real content there, a million bland oat recipes with occasional nutritional yeast sprinkled over and always a feeling of being food shamed for not eating so small portions or skipping bread. 😩
She is very photogenic and looks much better with make up so could have found a niche in that direction and she stopped being a bottle blonde so all positives... but I don't think it's enough to keep a wide audience long term and Joey has been a part of the brand for years. As for vegan/vegetarian cooking, there are many better options/professional chefs.
Also, if Joe's work has been connected to India for a while now I'm surprised she never visited before, especially since they were planning the move for a few months. And when she did arrive, was just sulking in Soho house as was predicted here months before that. She seemed to complicate things a lot once in India, spent half the time in her pyjamas and the only occasions outside were vegan restaurants. Even Frow produced better India content.
(Sorry about the stream of consciousness post, I usually write when I catch a break at work from my phone so no time to proofread)
 
rubicon said:
Sorry but I spend a fair amount of time online and have skimmed past some stuff around pizzagate - but genuinely couldn’t tell you what it is about. I think it’s a bit of a reach tbh, and i don’t think joe spends a huge amount online either judging by lack of posts etc.

Now for my main point: does anyone get complete Sex and the City vibes from their whole India thing. Like, when Carrie moves to Paris with the Russian guy and gives up her amazing NYC life but it just doesn’t work out and she sits in that beautiful room in that beautiful dress all alone ‘all dressed up and no petrovsky to go’ or whatever the line is 😂

I think it’s sad and she’s obviously hurting, but if the break up was only a matter of weeks ago, she may not have even truly realised the weight of what’s been lost yet - I know in my last breakup it was all boozy nights out dancing with my pals for weeks and after around 2 months came the crushing feeling of loss and the nights crying alone in bed 🤣

As much as Niomi irritates me sometimes with her perfect life etc I think it must be SO humiliating to share your engagement and relationship so publicly and to then have to share it with the world that it’s all gone tits up 😕
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i think she'll end up moving abroad somewhere like oz for a year or so (when/ifthat is possible in the dystopia we are living in 😑)
 
The way she gushed about India and being so sad to leave was no different in tone to her selling her stupid Boots range. Not very sincere.

Most people have a soft spot for her because she’s so nice. It’s easy to be nice when you live in complete oblivion. I just hope she stops talking to her sister in that sing-songy baby voice.
 
To her credit, she doesn't make youtube out to be any more glamorous than it is. It gave her opportunities. She was in the right place at the right time. She stumbled into her luxury lifestyle, and yes Joe's pretty mug may have helped. But if there's any resentment on his end about how cushy her job is compared to his, that would be nuts. And now, Joey just hasn't given her much of a way to save face. "Scorned woman" and "lifestyle influencer" aren't a natural fit.
 
Definitely Maybe said:
I can help thinking that the pizza emoji from Joe was him enjoying eating whatever he wants now. Hope so
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I like that idea too but
Definitely Maybe said:
I can help thinking that the pizza emoji from Joe was him enjoying eating whatever he wants now. Hope so
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Wasn’t that there for ages before they broke up? If it’s his bio you mean
 
I agree it was always ‘our’ this and ‘we’ that, but is it naive of me to say that’s what happens in a long term relationship? I don’t think that makes her a bad person, my fiancé and I have been together almost five years and we do that all the time (lol just did it now). You still have your independence and own interests - they did too? - but what’s wrong with having ‘their’ places? It’s not like they were together five minutes and she shoved all her ideals down his throat: he could have spoken up at ANY point and let’s not forget he put a ring on it. Of course he could have had a change of heart but that doesn’t mean that she ‘caused’ it.

I mean she could have, obviously, but her being vegan or controlling their narrative (not in a negative way) doesn’t make her a bad person. She put up with a lot of sh*t in my opinion and I hope this gives her a new lease of life! It does sound to me like he’s done something more than break it off though, the anger has started too early don’t you think? If it was me or anyone I know we’d still be in the not getting out of bed stage!
 
I’m confused— how did Niomi change herself and remould herself for Joe? Where is this talk coming from? I think leaving any relationship of course there is a feeling of ‘returning to yourself’ and realizing how much your thoughts and self were attached to another for so long. But beyond that? I agree that she used the “WE love this” thing waaay too much but let’s be real on the fundamentals.

— She kept her YouTube and Influencer career and everything that came with it.
— She stayed vegan and Joe was the one to adopt more vegan meals and products into his life. (I don’t know by the end how much non vegan he actually ate but it seems for almost any meal together he was eating a lot of what she did). In a relationship when you have two starkly different lifestyles and diets like that, it’s telling that one of them took precedence in their house.
— She kept up her fitness regime and Joe was the one to join her, went on runs and in lockdown did her yoga routines with her.
— Joe was integrated into her family life and was close with Daisy Mae. Whenever they’d visit it included compulsory whimsical outings with Daisy Mae.
Joe went on family holidays and joined Niomi on Influencer holidays too.

Now, India keeps coming up as some sad and honourable self sacrifice on Niomi’s behalf. Before she even met Joe she would go on and on about wanting to live abroad, and one of those places was Australia, but she would say how she just wanted the experience of living elsewhere.
In fact when they did the moving to India video I thought this was actually perfect for Niomi, she actually got her chance to have this adventure she’s wanted, how convenient for everyone. She also never stopped saying how much she loved India and all her time there, from the very start. I’m sure some of that is put on, but at some point you have to take her at her word that she at least wanted to be there lol. I think for some here, they maybe personally see having to move to India as a horrible sacrifice but some people DO want to go.

I totally understand Niomi is hurt and regurgitating basic Insta therapy lines about serving only herself, etc. But I imagine coming out of that relationship, Joe probably feels a similar way.
 
Got a few more pages to read to catch up but I have to say, a lot of people in this thread are on about how she's on the verge of a breakdown and her behaviour in her instagram comments is neurotic. I don't see that at all ??? She's hardly writing 'Joe was a c*nt who broke my heart.' Going through a breakup is a tit storm, especially in the public eye! I feel like she's behaving really normally and tbh really well to say she had an engagement called off
 
speach7991 said:
Got a few more pages to read to catch up but I have to say, a lot of people in this thread are on about how she's on the verge of a breakdown and her behaviour in her instagram comments is neurotic. I don't see that at all ??? She's hardly writing 'Joe was a c*nt who broke my heart.' Going through a breakup is a tit storm, especially in the public eye! I feel like she's behaving really normally and tbh really well to say she had an engagement called off
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She's really keen to create a narrative here, and it's out of character for her to engage with her audience this much. I don't know... I'm reading "Joe was a c*nt" in every line but that's just me.
 
FS123 said:
She's really keen to create a narrative here, and it's out of character for her to engage with her audience this much. I don't know... I'm reading "Joe was a c*nt" in every line but that's just me.
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Yeah, she’s liking so many effusive comments about how she’s better off without him, or people saying they could see she wasn’t at her best with him etc.
 
She did want to move abroad but the reality of living in India was she was alone A LOT, it was not the place she wanted to be, it was not her idea or her choice (other than following her man). I still stand by she sacrificed a lot for him and I never got the impression he would have done that for her.

When she was with Marcus she laughed SO MUCH, when her and Joe first got together she laughed lots too, and I really think he zapped the energy out of her! She 100% was a different person with her family and friends than with joe.

edit: can we really call it ‘living’ in India? They stayed in a fancy hotel for a few months. More like extended holiday you don’t necessarily want to be on?
 
getawaywithit said:
I’m confused— how did Niomi change herself and remould herself for Joe? Where is this talk coming from? I think leaving any relationship of course there is a feeling of ‘returning to yourself’ and realizing how much your thoughts and self were attached to another for so long. But beyond that? I agree that she used the “WE love this” thing waaay too much but let’s be real on the fundamentals.

— She kept her YouTube and Influencer career and everything that came with it.
— She stayed vegan and Joe was the one to adopt more vegan meals and products into his life. (I don’t know by the end how much non vegan he actually ate but it seems for almost any meal together he was eating a lot of what she did). In a relationship when you have two starkly different lifestyles and diets like that, it’s telling that one of them took precedence in their house.
— She kept up her fitness regime and Joe was the one to join her, went on runs and in lockdown did her yoga routines with her.
— Joe was integrated into her family life and was close with Daisy Mae. Whenever they’d visit it included compulsory whimsical outings with Daisy Mae.
Joe went on family holidays and joined Niomi on Influencer holidays too.

Now, India keeps coming up as some sad and honourable self sacrifice on Niomi’s behalf. Before she even met Joe she would go on and on about wanting to live abroad, and one of those places was Australia, but she would say how she just wanted the experience of living elsewhere.
In fact when they did the moving to India video I thought this was actually perfect for Niomi, she actually got her chance to have this adventure she’s wanted, how convenient for everyone. She also never stopped saying how much she loved India and all her time there, from the very start. I’m sure some of that is put on, but at some point you have to take her at her word that she at least wanted to be there lol. I think for some here, they maybe personally see having to move to India as a horrible sacrifice but some people DO want to go.

I totally understand Niomi is hurt and regurgitating basic Insta therapy lines about serving only herself, etc. But I imagine coming out of that relationship, Joe probably feels a similar way.
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I don’t think she wanted to go to India. I don’t think she wanted a great foreign adventure. Yes, she talked about Australia years before but she was quite a bit younger then. By that point I think she was very happy and settled in London and enjoying her privileged London lifestyle with yoga around the corner from where she lived and an aesthetic vegan cafe on every street.

I am quite sure she moved to India with Joe because he was certain he was going to go for his work and thought a long distance relationship would be the end of them. Then he proposed because, well, she was going to India for him. Was that the right thing to do? Who knows. She probably thought “two years in India, home for the summers, then we move back to London!”

She did seem to make a good go of India. Left alone in a hotel (yes, a nice hotel but must have been lonely), tried to make connections, a health course. As a single white woman, she was a bit cautious about venturing out alone which I can get. She did try.
 
I wonder who has been paying for the wedding things up to now. The deposits on venues / caterers / entertainment etc.

I can’t imagine her family will have wanted to be seen as being outdone by the Woodward’s family.



I know someone who’s wedding canceled ( again the man couldn’t go through with it )

Granted It was canceled 2 weeks before due get married. Her father lost over 15k and it was by no means a big fancy wedding like what they would have been planning.



The outcome of that is he still kept living with her. Told her father he’d pay him back . Then after 6 months he left , then 2 years later married someone else. And he never did pay her father back.

So it just shows you clearly know what’s right when coming to marry someone
 
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