Their conversations are dull enough on camera (except when being pass agg) on camera, god knows how boring they are off!I honestly wonder about their marriage too. The cracks are suddenly showing. What guy wants to be under a woman’s thumb his entire life? She tries to control everything. Although I don’t see Joe as much of a catch. Yes he has money and connections but he is duller than dull and acts weirdly boyish and cringe-y. It’s not sexy or appealing at all. A pretty face with no lights on upstairs. I can only imagine the conversations those two have when their worlds are so incredibly small and uninspired.