HotDawg
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Mmmmm yummy, cold baked beans!
wait…are they bringing tin openers?! Otherwise, what’s the point?
Mumsnet #31 How on Earth do these people manage to exist on a day to day basis?
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Mmmmm yummy, cold baked beans!
wait…are they bringing tin openers?! Otherwise, what’s the point?
orangehead
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They’re going to use the tin openers in whatever country they plan to flee to, France probably, because they have tin openers but they also have foreign food, so they have to take their own food, but not their own tin openers.
Boring Monday
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All the six foot, strapping rugby players will suddenly be developing an unfortunate case of fallen arches.
CatCafe234
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But nuclear war will make everyone sooooo skinny! Honestly, we’ve lost sight of what a normal apocalypse looks like.
Sglodion
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On a serious note the majority of my friends here (not Europe) are Russian or Ukrainian and the conscription threads are kind of a sore spot. All the people going "I'd refuse because this country isn't worth defending anyway" or "I'd rather just let the Russians take over" have NO idea what it actually means to have the country you live in invaded by a hostile force. Do they think the ordinary Ukrainians are fighting because their political system was perfect and they really love getting shot at?! In an actual war you have NO CHOICE, unless you consider you and your family being kidnapped/raped/tortured/killed to be a viable alternative.
Even my friends, who were some of the 'lucky' ones in that they either escaped or by chance lived here already in 2022, might have to face a decision at some point between going back to fight or potentially never being able to return to their homelands again, depending on the laws their respective governments bring in. For a lot of people this isn't just a hypothetical, and all this casual sniping about "why would they expect us to fight when we can't even afford to buy a house" or "younger generations cry if you call them by the wrong pronouns, they'd never cope in a war" is so tone deaf and distasteful. Compared with many European countries we're in such a fortunate position that Russia is unlikely to be able to directly threaten us by conventional warfare any time soon, for several reasons but not least geographical coincidence, and so traditional 'random civilians get ordered to the front line' conscription is also highly unlikely. I wish people back home would at least appreciate that, instead of taking this as yet another opportunity for constant bleeping whingeing about how hard they have everything.
Even my friends, who were some of the 'lucky' ones in that they either escaped or by chance lived here already in 2022, might have to face a decision at some point between going back to fight or potentially never being able to return to their homelands again, depending on the laws their respective governments bring in. For a lot of people this isn't just a hypothetical, and all this casual sniping about "why would they expect us to fight when we can't even afford to buy a house" or "younger generations cry if you call them by the wrong pronouns, they'd never cope in a war" is so tone deaf and distasteful. Compared with many European countries we're in such a fortunate position that Russia is unlikely to be able to directly threaten us by conventional warfare any time soon, for several reasons but not least geographical coincidence, and so traditional 'random civilians get ordered to the front line' conscription is also highly unlikely. I wish people back home would at least appreciate that, instead of taking this as yet another opportunity for constant bleeping whingeing about how hard they have everything.
Technobiff
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I can just see it now....
AIBU to email the war office and demand that they remove my son from the conscription list because he's too young at 24?
AIBU to email the war office and tell them that they didn't use the correct pronouns for my son?
AIBU to email the war office and demand that they allow my son to dress as he pleases rather than that horrible uniform?
AIBU to email the war office and demand that my sons ration pack contains hummus, cucumber sticks and a massive salad instead of the usual menu?
AIBU to be discusted that they don't pay my son a six figure salary?
AIBU to email the war office to complain that my son attended an RG university and therefore he should be conscripted as a colonel rather than a private?
AIBU to email the war office and demand that they remove my son from the conscription list because he's too young at 24?
AIBU to email the war office and tell them that they didn't use the correct pronouns for my son?
AIBU to email the war office and demand that they allow my son to dress as he pleases rather than that horrible uniform?
AIBU to email the war office and demand that my sons ration pack contains hummus, cucumber sticks and a massive salad instead of the usual menu?
AIBU to be discusted that they don't pay my son a six figure salary?
AIBU to email the war office to complain that my son attended an RG university and therefore he should be conscripted as a colonel rather than a private?
CrimsonCountess
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Every day they all remind me how completely out of touch they are with reality and the average life. Someone has posted about having a serious drug and alcohol addiction and people are just breezily replying saying well go to rehab then, like it’s that easy and cheap
My father in law went to rehab last year, it took a week of ringing around to find somewhere that had space and then it was £7k for 2 weeks which had to be paid up front! Not many people with addiction issues have that just lying around to be able to go. They make it sound like you’re just going away for a few days to get help and that it won’t cost much
My father in law went to rehab last year, it took a week of ringing around to find somewhere that had space and then it was £7k for 2 weeks which had to be paid up front! Not many people with addiction issues have that just lying around to be able to go. They make it sound like you’re just going away for a few days to get help and that it won’t cost much
bread-pitt
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I agree. Totally out of touch. If addiction were so easy to “fix” we’d have no addicts in the world. Even spending 7k on a rehab place isn’t guaranteed to work.
Serene Serena
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I guess to the 6 figure earners, 7k is small change 
There are very few NHS rehab units, and the ones that exist have long waiting lists. My friend's partner went to one in Cumbria, it was a 6 month residential placement. He got sober and remains in recovery today, that was 9 years ago. She got so much crap from people about him 'using our money' to get well again, completely failing to see the bigger picture with alcoholism, and how much more NHS treatment he would have required, had he continued drinking.
Mind you, Mumsnetters think someone is an alcoholic if they have a small glass of wine once a week.
There are very few NHS rehab units, and the ones that exist have long waiting lists. My friend's partner went to one in Cumbria, it was a 6 month residential placement. He got sober and remains in recovery today, that was 9 years ago. She got so much crap from people about him 'using our money' to get well again, completely failing to see the bigger picture with alcoholism, and how much more NHS treatment he would have required, had he continued drinking.Mind you, Mumsnetters think someone is an alcoholic if they have a small glass of wine once a week.
bread-pitt
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I guess to the 6 figure earners, 7k is small change
Mind you, Mumsnetters think someone is an alcoholic if they have a small glass of wine once a week.
And it’s not just the NHS that suffers because of addiction. The vast number of people in prison are there because of drugs and addiction - either dealing or possessing, committing crimes while high or drunk, or committing crimes to get the means to get high or drunk, or committing crimes due to not having their drink or drugs. Have they even stopped to think how much the prison service costs the taxpayer?
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Yes, their attitude to alcohol, like everything else, is so extreme. On tre one hand you have those who think it’s normal to get so drunk you can’t remember anything that happened. And there are those tho believe anyone who even has a whiff of sherry at Christmas should have AA on speed dial.
Technobiff
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I reckon the ones over there who like to think they're paragons of virtue are the ones who spent their teens in a park with their mates, necking white lightning while puffing their way through a pack of Lambert's and dropping E's at a rave.
50degreesnorth
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Technobiff
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So what she's saying is, wealthy people don't have savings because they spend every penny as soon as it hits her bank account?
She talks out of her aspire to be middle class Primark clad arses.
What's wrong with MN lately is that they're all so desperate to be middle class that they live in Dreamland, flicking through glossy magazines while sat on their DFS sofa's in their surburban semi's like a deranged Hyacinth Bucket.
boogera
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What is she doing to that house? She moved into a new build, so shouldn’t have needed any work done, but has piles of granite to get rid of? And stuff to fill two skip bags? But they also don’t own much? Where’s she finding all this junk?
cowtastrophe
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I notice they’ve started deleting some of the comments which aren’t yay go girl cheerleading. Honestly, it’s ridiculous. If she spent as much time sorting her house out as she does whining on Mumsnet about it then it would have been done weeks ago. And I say that as someone who has barely been able to get out of bed due to depression.
Every bloody response from that woman is 'you don't understand. my life is complicated'. Jeez. She's just a pathetic needy lazy thing 'Not going into why my kidz are fucked'. Probably because they live in a dump, you twit.
Hmph
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'I can knock walls downs and buIld an extension and a garridge in my HA home hun'. NO YOU BLOODY CAN'T
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Think I'm a bit grumpy today
Hmph
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'I can knock walls downs and buIld an extension and a garridge in my HA home hun'. NO YOU BLOODY CAN'T
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Think I'm a bit grumpy today
rainbowlemon
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Just same to post this same thing! You beat me to it.
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Love this!
boogera
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They’re fucked because she’s their mum…Every bloody response from that woman is 'you don't understand. my life is complicated'. Jeez. She's just a pathetic needy lazy thing 'Not going into why my kidz are fucked'. Probably because they live in a dump, you twit.
Hmph
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'I can knock walls downs and buIld an extension and a garridge in my HA home hun'. NO YOU BLOODY CAN'T
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Think I'm a bit grumpy today
Affiliatemebaby
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We have a relatively high income and no savings and I lie awake at night worrying. At the moment we are recovering from the costs of two house moves close together, and some tax changes, plus the same cost of living pressures as everyone else. I hope this year we’ll start to be able to get some money put away finally. I see someone who has less income but more savings than us as fundamentally wealthier than us as they are more insulated against financial shock than us. Insurance (we do at least have this and it costs a fortune in itself) only goes so far.
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