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If he becomes one of those people that claims they ran in "the marathon" it's not a good look. Hopefully he realizes there's a lot of work to doing a 10K or a half or a full. I will say there's nothing wrong with the walk-run method. I would say any first time runner should read http://www.jeffgalloway.com/training/run-walk/ and look into it.
OMG okay so for the most part, I'm a very chill person about runs/running. BUT two things drive me up the wall:

1. People who say, "I'm training for a marathon!" when they are doing a 10k
I gently corrected someone of this and they got SO defensive. I was like, "Hey a 10k is an accomplishment, but it's not the same level as a MARATHON so stop calling it that."

2. People who sign up for virtual races, never do them, but wear the merch/hang the medals. **cough**Mike**cough**
Virtual races for sure have their place and I think people who earn them differently (doing a few miles a day, for example instead of a whole half at once) is fine. As long as it's purposeful walking/running. I've seen people (ESPECIALLY with the runDisney virtual medals) take them to the park to do photo shoots and be like, "Even though I never went out to do the miles, I earned this because I had a really hard year."

Um. No. No you did not.
 
Can we speculate why Dave didn't do the runDisney 5k...other than them possibly having a falling out...I think Dave is too cheap to pay for the event. It's definitely expensive. I'm wondering if Mikey told him they got free water & a snack pack, if he'd now consider signing up. Thoughts? :LOL:
 
OMG okay so for the most part, I'm a very chill person about runs/running. BUT two things drive me up the wall:

1. People who say, "I'm training for a marathon!" when they are doing a 10k
I gently corrected someone of this and they got SO defensive. I was like, "Hey a 10k is an accomplishment, but it's not the same level as a MARATHON so stop calling it that."

It's why I'm always very careful to mention that when I run I never do more than a half. Typically with the joke that I'm only half crazy. The mental strength it takes to run a full is insane. I don't fathom how people can do it. It's not even the wear and tear on your body, it's your mind too.

It's why I don't think Mikey will ever do a 10K or a 1/2. Anyone can have a !@#$ around 5K type of day. But I'd wager once he hits that 5 mile mark (almost done) he'd just peter out. But maybe he'll surprise me and become a runner. The runner's high is a thing. Maybe he can use it for some mental health and find a way to just get away from all distractions for a few hours
 
It’s great if Michael is excited about finally getting some physical activity and making a healthy choice about how to spend his time.

But simultaneously, it’s:
1. crappy of him to run a race un-vaxxed and unmasked.
2. Super obnoxious for him to be acting like he achieved some Olympic-level feat of athleticism.

I know a 5k is nothing to sneeze at. I still remember hitting that milestone after I started running, and it was really exciting for me. But this guy is out here partially walking a 5k, presumably without preparing at all, and then talking like he’s in the same category as the people doing the half marathon. All his comments like “we have to work up to that” and “I want the half marathon medal” just give off the same gross self-centered energy as his slow-mo swimming footage.
My problem is him saying he RAN the 5k. He didn't RUN tit. He did the absolute bare minimum just like everything he does in in life. Unless of course it's eating garbage. He walks 5ks all day in the parks. It's another fake accomplishment on his belt.

Yes, I can't imagine what kind resort they would build aside an expansion.
A princess and the frog hotel right next to the splash mountain retheme. I'm sorry if I gave them any ideas. 🤣. That sounds awful.
 
My experience from running/lettering in high school cross country (in the fall) and track (in the spring): I could run a 2.8 mile race. I ran about three miles every day to train except once a week I would go 5.5 miles. I hated the 5.5 mile days, they really sucked. I had no desire to run any further, ever. That length of run usually gave me the shits. I was glad though, because I had a reason for not ever, ever running further. Running a 10K, actually running it, would have been possible for me, but I would not have liked it. Half marathon? Full marathon? No thanks. Those races mess up even experienced runners' insides.
 
It's why I don't think Mikey will ever do a 10K or a 1/2. Anyone can have a !@#$ around 5K type of day. But I'd wager once he hits that 5 mile mark (almost done) he'd just peter out. But maybe he'll surprise me and become a runner. The runner's high is a thing. Maybe he can use it for some mental health and find a way to just get away from all distractions for a few hours

Agreed. The thing is, he will (most likely) never do anything outside of runDisney. If he did sign up for the 10k and got swept, he'd still wear his medal and say, "well I showed up so I deserve this!"
THAT makes me unreasonably angry and is, unfortunately, a big problem with runDisney. Especially Princess. There are people who go knowing full well they won't finish the half, collect their medals, and flounce around the parks taking in the accolades. There is a huge difference between getting injured on mile 4 and starting the race with no intention of even trying.

My experience from running/lettering in high school cross country (in the fall) and track (in the spring): I could run a 2.8 mile race. I ran about three miles every day to train except once a week I would go 5.5 miles. I hated the 5.5 mile days, they really sucked. I had no desire to run any further, ever. That length of run usually gave me the shits. I was glad though, because I had a reason for not ever, ever running further. Running a 10K, actually running it, would have been possible for me, but I would not have liked it. Half marathon? Full marathon? No thanks. Those races mess up even experienced runners' insides.

Diet is another thing he'd have to be careful about if he starts going higher than 5ks. You cannot run on milkshakes and deep fried whatever. He will tit his pants.
 
Half marathon? Full marathon? No thanks. Those races mess up even experienced runners' insides.

So here's a story I'll share because none of y'all know me. On a lot of my long runs, I'd make sure to have the same routine. Same breakfast, same hydration, same route, etc. A certain Run Disney event comes up. I forget to bring some bars with me. My wife has some other bar she likes to eat. She says, "here have one of these...."

I made the worst runner mistake of changing things up. We get to the corrals. I'm stretching/warming up and just trying to keep loose. Race finally starts and our chunk of people get going. I get about 1.5 miles in and I can hear the churn. Then I start to sweat. And then I feel it just brewing. It was like watching those old cartoons showing the tar-pits bubble up. Long story short, I'm finally inside one of the parks during the run and the first bathroom I see - I make a beeline for it. It was like that scene from Dumb & Dumber.

So....NEVER mix it up.

Also. yes, diet is huge. You can't fuel yourself off of Chic-Fil-A or Taco Bell. You need to actually take care of your body.

And as far as injuries go. Anyone that I saw get swept due to a legit injury, I had no problems with them wearing a medal. Did they finish? No....but I'm not going to lose my cool over it. Now the people I see sign up and not even make an honest effort, those grind my gears.
 
So here's a story I'll share because none of y'all know me. On a lot of my long runs, I'd make sure to have the same routine. Same breakfast, same hydration, same route, etc. A certain Run Disney event comes up. I forget to bring some bars with me. My wife has some other bar she likes to eat. She says, "here have one of these...."

I made the worst runner mistake of changing things up. We get to the corrals. I'm stretching/warming up and just trying to keep loose. Race finally starts and our chunk of people get going. I get about 1.5 miles in and I can hear the churn. Then I start to sweat. And then I feel it just brewing. It was like watching those old cartoons showing the tar-pits bubble up. Long story short, I'm finally inside one of the parks during the run and the first bathroom I see - I make a beeline for it. It was like that scene from Dumb & Dumber.

So....NEVER mix it up.
Not LAUGHING at you, just oh that situation is so relatable.
I'm so weirdly superstitious about that kind of stuff. I will NEVER take the in race food. The only time I ever did anything different was I did Peachtree a while back and at mile 1 a guy was handing out Coors. I wasn't there to PR or go fast, so I said, "Why not?" lol luckily it didn't become an issue, but never again.
 
Not LAUGHING at you, just oh that situation is so relatable.
I'm so weirdly superstitious about that kind of stuff. I will NEVER take the in race food. The only time I ever did anything different was I did Peachtree a while back and at mile 1 a guy was handing out Coors. I wasn't there to PR or go fast, so I said, "Why not?" lol luckily it didn't become an issue, but never again.

Oh I laugh at me for it. It's freaking hilarious. I love telling stories like that because shame went out the door decades ago
 
Agreed. The thing is, he will (most likely) never do anything outside of runDisney. If he did sign up for the 10k and got swept, he'd still wear his medal and say, "well I showed up so I deserve this!"
THAT makes me unreasonably angry and is, unfortunately, a big problem with runDisney. Especially Princess. There are people who go knowing full well they won't finish the half, collect their medals, and flounce around the parks taking in the accolades. There is a huge difference between getting injured on mile 4 and starting the race with no intention of even trying.



Diet is another thing he'd have to be careful about if he starts going higher than 5ks. You cannot run on milkshakes and deep fried whatever. He will tit his pants.
To be honest most of his thumbnails he's wearing the "oops I tit my pants" face.
 
So, has there ever been a consensus on whom the group believes FRE is? I want to watch his videos AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

I don't think there is a consensus however the main suspects that I can see are:

PCDev and/or Bianca
They have feuded with The Trackers in the past. PCDev engaged a bit with the FRE comment section in the earlier days. The videos making fun of PCDev aren't anywhere near as bad as they could be - possibly made as an 'alibi'. Videos have dried up when PCDev has had other things on - e.g his recent cruise.

Shawn in Orlando
Regularly sounds off on Michael Kay/other bloggers on his Tiktok. I don't think this one is likely because there's supposedly a female editor involved with FRE. Possibly a contributor.

Michael/Dave themselves
Also seems unlikely. Unless this forum has completely misread Michael/Dave I don't think either of them are capable of the wit required to create FRE. I also don't think they would be self deprecating enough.

Craig/Ryno/Others from The Dis
Like with PCDev, the videos making fun of The Dis crew aren't as bad as they could be and seem to be the kind of self deprecating humour Craig would have. They certainly have the skills and resources to make it happen. Their channel has also been around for a very long time and the influx of these new vloggers must irk them somewhat. FRE also actively makes fun of Craig (self deprecating) but has stated numerous time that Craig's wife Kylie is amazing. The counter point to this is that Craig has seemingly got on well with The Trackers in the past, although this could have just been politeness.

WDWNT
I think these guys have escaped any kind of mockery from FRE despite being a pretty big target with Tom being widely disliked. That's really the only evidence.


Realistically it's probably none of these people and it's most likely a greasy 40 year old living in their Mom's basement lol
 
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