Mia Jeal #4 co-sleeping&weaning she has no clue,even needs mum’s permission for baby No.2

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One of the best things about doing something like YouTube as a job is that you can take whatever leave you want. If Mia makes as much money as she says she does she can afford to take a break, pay for some therapy , learn some new editing techniques etc and then come back when she's ready. I really think that's what she needs to do. She's pushing too hard to make this a career and it's beating her down. It needs to happen organically and if she keeps responding like this then she could end up ill.

Edit: I also think a support group would be really useful for her (perhaps a PND one, or one geared towards new and first time mums) It seems like a really big problem for her is thinking she's the only one feeling like this and the only one going through anything. I think it would help her feel less lonely if she could talk to other people going through tit
 
RosePetals said:
One of the best things about doing something like YouTube as a job is that you can take whatever leave you want. If Mia makes as much money as she says she does she can afford to take a break, pay for some therapy , learn some new editing techniques etc and then come back when she's ready. I really think that's what she needs to do. She's pushing too hard to make this a career and it's beating her down. It needs to happen organically and if she keeps responding like this then she could end up ill.
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I was thinking the exact same thing, she should’ve just taken at least a week off when her cat died, plus she’s still only 17 so everything she needs, food, water and a roof over her head, is paid for by her mum so there’s no reason for her not to take a little time off. Two weeks in a row now she’s had vlogs that are just her telling the camera that she’s too sad to do anything, I think she’s trying to put as many videos in order to make as much money as she can so she can live her facade of being able to move out of her mum’s as soon as she’s 18. She’s a people pleaser so she wants to prove to everyone that she can stand on her own two feet and would rather talk about how sad she is camera for sympathy from her viewers than take time off to mourn and get herself into a better place. I hope someone around her recognises that if she carries on like this she’s just going to keep on going down and helps her to get the help she needs.
 
It’s been touched on a few pages back but Mia is under the impression that she’ll hit 18 give the bank her 10k+ and then have a huge house of perfection.

Reality is she won’t have a credit score and won’t get a mortgage for quite some time and even then she needs a much bigger deposit now
 
I just feel as if she’s too immature and naive for her own good. She never accepts constructive criticism on what is safe/what is not for Mabel when most mature mums would take it on board for the safety of their child. She is talking about moving out at 18 when she’s a relatively small youtube channel, having a house doesn’t just include the price of the house it’s also electricity, food, other bills etc. Youtube is already dying out as a platform and I cant see her still being an “influencer” successful enough to make an independent living from it in 2-3 years or so. She also highly depends on her mum for childcare and is going to college in September so it would be a hassle for her to drop Mabel off to her mum’s house. Talking of Mabel, I thought her changing her name to Mabel-Ocean was another rather immature move. It reminds me of naming dolls in childhood, and that’s what Mia is treating this as- a game, a joke. You can’t just hyphenate a child’s name, months after they were born, for no reason other than you felt like it? I feel sorry for her, probably going to be bullied her whole life for that name.
Mia also heavily posts negative content. It’s clear she has many mental health issues, and it almost seems like the only reason Mabel can’t see her dad is because Mia doesn’t want her to, because Mia has a terrible relationship with her own father and doesn’t trust men.
Overall I think she’s a good kid, but she’s far too ignorant and naive.
 
Mia is obviously her own manager at the moment, there’s no one telling her to slow down for abit. She has money bag eyes and YouTube can’t be paying her much really. Her vlogs are repetitive and boring, I feel the thought of money and needing to get videos out for the money is more important than the effort and thought she puts in to her videos.
 
Looks like the lack of routine Mabel has is starting to take a toll. If Mia has listened to the constructive criticism given on here before, I’m sure Mabel would go to sleep easily and wouldn’t be fussy with her food. Obviously Mias going through a rough patch regarding Ziggy but she really shouldn’t be allowing that to affect her parenting with Mabel. As someone mentioned on one of the earlier pages you have to try and keep that sort of stuff away from your baby or else it will affect them.
 
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Looks like the lack of routine Mabel has is starting to take a toll. If Mia has listened to the constructive criticism given on here before, I’m sure Mabel would go to sleep easily and wouldn’t be fussy with her food. Obviously Mias going through a rough patch regarding Ziggy but she really shouldn’t be allowing that to affect her parenting with Mabel. As someone mentioned on one of the earlier pages you have to try and keep that sort of stuff away from your baby or else it will affect them.
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Hi, again, I am 19 so I’m in no way one of mias little 11 year old minion. I also acknowledge that Mia can be considered immature in some sense, as well as maybe living in a fantasy word where she’s going to conceive babies with a donor first time, have a house, be a YouTuber, and also I understand Mia can misinform peolle about things; like the baby led weaning and the reusable nappies. She is still learning herself though, and taking on constructive criticism And advice could help her w lot. But she is young so perhaps she feels like peolle are questioning her ability as a mother.
Noooow I also have a 15 month old sister. She is in a routine, where she has a nap in the morning for around 90 mins, has her 3 meals (she is also still breast fed) and she has a bath every night before bed. However, despite her having this routine she can also be incredibly unpredictable. Because that is what babies are like. Babies can take a while to settle for numerous reasons, teeth, heat, bellyache ot they just aren’t tired. Again babies can also wake up numerous times in the night- even if they have a routine. It seems like people are forgetting that.
Not all babies sleep amazingly. And sometimes babies can make their own routine go out the window :)
 
jellytots322 said:
Hi, again, I am 19 so I’m in no way one of mias little 11 year old minion. I also acknowledge that Mia can be considered immature in some sense, as well as maybe living in a fantasy word where she’s going to conceive babies with a donor first time, have a house, be a YouTuber, and also I understand Mia can misinform peolle about things; like the baby led weaning and the reusable nappies. She is still learning herself though, and taking on constructive criticism And advice could help her w lot. But she is young so perhaps she feels like peolle are questioning her ability as a mother.
Noooow I also have a 15 month old sister. She is in a routine, where she has a nap in the morning for around 90 mins, has her 3 meals (she is also still breast fed) and she has a bath every night before bed. However, despite her having this routine she can also be incredibly unpredictable. Because that is what babies are like. Babies can take a while to settle for numerous reasons, teeth, heat, bellyache ot they just aren’t tired. Again babies can also wake up numerous times in the night- even if they have a routine. It seems like people are forgetting that.
Not all babies sleep amazingly. And sometimes babies can make their own routine go out the window :)
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Maybe I’m lucky but my baby slept through since about 4 months, she has always napped very well. I moved house when she was 5 1/2 months and she went straight into her own room and has slept 11/12 hours a night ever since. BUT, I understand and accept that having a little one takes sacrifices, routine is so important and if you stick to it and work at it, it works! My ‘me’ time is about 30 mins a day when she naps, after I have done what I need to do around the house but that’s fine, that’s being a mum! I put her needs before all of mine. If you still want to do your own thing and watch crap telly, play on your switch or bloody fake tan (Priorities) whilst your baby is awake you have to accept that a routine isn’t necessarily going to work, unless you have the most docile baby on the planet! Sorry for the rant but this is something I feel very strongly about! I hate seeing babies left to their own devices to suit the parent/s.
 
I totally accept that routine won’t work for all babies but my gripe is when someone says they can’t get in a routine or their routine is all over the place then they decide to plop the baby down and go do their own thing, dye their hair for example! In that case, of course it’s not going to happen! Luxuries like that should be done in your own time, if you’re lucky enough to get it. Otherwise, go without, it’s not that big a deal! You can’t sacrifice your babies needs for your own shallow ones and still expect a perfect routine to happen 🤷‍♀️
 
Jessicaab said:
Maybe I’m lucky but my baby slept through since about 4 months, she has always napped very well. I moved house when she was 5 1/2 months and she went straight into her own room and has slept 11/12 hours a night ever since. BUT, I understand and accept that having a little one takes sacrifices, routine is so important and if you stick to it and work at it, it works! My ‘me’ time is about 30 mins a day when she naps, after I have done what I need to do around the house but that’s fine, that’s being a mum! I put her needs before all of mine. If you still want to do your own thing and watch crap telly, play on your switch or bloody fake tan (Priorities) whilst your baby is awake you have to accept that a routine isn’t necessarily going to work, unless you have the most docile baby on the planet! Sorry for the rant but this is something I feel very strongly about! I hate seeing babies left to their own devices to suit the parent/s.
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Agree, and I haven’t worn makeup or done my hair properly in months Because I simply don’t have time. I used to straighten my hair and wear makeup everyday before I became a mum lol. Now simply don’t have time, when my son is in bed I’m doing housework, laundry, grocery shopping etc and very little time left for me. If I manage to get to read Tattle before bed I consider myself lucky lol. I have to say I do get Hacked off sometimes when we turn up to birthdays etc and my son is immaculately turned out, bathed and in new clothes And I’ve barely run a hairbrush through my hair 😂 but I love being a mum and wouldn’t trade it for the world xx
 
jellytots322 said:
Hi, again, I am 19 so I’m in no way one of mias little 11 year old minion. I also acknowledge that Mia can be considered immature in some sense, as well as maybe living in a fantasy word where she’s going to conceive babies with a donor first time, have a house, be a YouTuber, and also I understand Mia can misinform peolle about things; like the baby led weaning and the reusable nappies. She is still learning herself though, and taking on constructive criticism And advice could help her w lot. But she is young so perhaps she feels like peolle are questioning her ability as a mother.
Noooow I also have a 15 month old sister. She is in a routine, where she has a nap in the morning for around 90 mins, has her 3 meals (she is also still breast fed) and she has a bath every night before bed. However, despite her having this routine she can also be incredibly unpredictable. Because that is what babies are like. Babies can take a while to settle for numerous reasons, teeth, heat, bellyache ot they just aren’t tired. Again babies can also wake up numerous times in the night- even if they have a routine. It seems like people are forgetting that.
Not all babies sleep amazingly. And sometimes babies can make their own routine go out the window :)
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a lot of us on this thread are actually parents! We completely get all babies are different, none are the same, even those living in the same household. Both my daughters were completely different babies in terms of routine and temperament. I said earlier no one should really critique on the small things she does as a mother because it’s completely fine to get things wrong and you learn from it. But the main thing people get bugged about is the fact she doesn’t learn , she does not take criticism, every bit of advice she gets she either deletes comments or blocks the person. She also starts getting offensive and rude.She will not accept responsibility for the fact she will do things the wrong way and it’s okay for someone to tell her.

I don’t feel it’s a coincidence that Mabel is going through an irritable stage when Mia is completely unmotivated, worn down and obviously grieving her cat still. Babies pick up on negative energy and it will send their routines out if the window. I honestly believe Mia should take herself off social media, she’s a young mum and she seems so disconnected and stressed. Like I said most of us here are mothers and we’re not here to hate or judge her as a mother, it’s her style as a YouTuber and at the moment I don’t feel that’s doing her any good.. she needs to focus on mabel more and stop worrying about when she’s banging out the next carelessly put together vlog.
 
Sorry guys I just have to mention this.

A few of you defending people for nitpicking at Mia. The reason this is happening is because there is no way other than this thread to mention these things, and it will be said in a “mean” way because it is annoying that she gets rid of every criticism going. Not only that but we are also forgetting all of the uneducated and downright offensive remarks Mia has made, about benefits, names, etc etc while still begging for handouts.

I think it’s okay to nitpick someone who is so irresponsible and childish that she can’t even apologise and stop going on about things that happened ages ago like a broken record.

Nobody has said Mia should not talk about her birth and I’m sure we all felt bad for her when we found out but she has used the sympathy for too long now and it’s become a bore. Change the track.

When saying that Mia is still learning, she is not taking anything on board because she is not showing one of the fundamental skills of being a member of society which is accepting your wrongdoings.

I think Mia needs to jog on if she thinks she will even get an appointment with an estate agent if she rocks up in joggers everywhere with her nipples out (show off your body and be comfy, but be professional when needed).
 
Sorry but she can’t seriously be sticking up for shane in this and say she can’t say what’s right and wrong? Like there’s videos and evidence everywhere. You can see what I’ve replied to her 😠😠
 

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sophielouise12345 said:
Sorry but she can’t seriously be sticking up for shane in this and say she can’t say what’s right and wrong? Like there’s videos and evidence everywhere. You can see what I’ve replied to her 😠😠
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Was that your comment below ?! So true 👏

Cancel culture isn’t toxic!!! I’m so glad people are finally stepping up and calling out what is safe and what isn’t safe on the internet! Shane Dawson, that Ingham creep!!! How is it toxic trying to protect future generations to what they’re exposed to on the the internet when it 100% deserves to be cancelled!
 
Haven’t watched Mias videos in ages but her latest one came up In suggested box so I watched it. I have criticised Mia on here in the past but I have to say now I feel sorry for her, especially when she said Something to the effect “i feel lonely and empty all the time”. I think she brushes off not having a baby daddy or partner, and Makes light of it for tiktok videos but the reality is it’s all bravado. In reality she wants a partner to do this with (like 99% of women would) and the nonsense talk of choosing the sperm donor Route is again just all front. What it comes down to is she wants what she never had, the happy family unit with 2 parents and a happy safe home. Really she is a misguided 17 year old who should get off YouTube and focus on finding happiness by other means, I think social media is only adding to her unhappiness. She needs to find her own direction. Please Get off Social media, Focus on your daughter Mia and work hard, things will fall into place xx
 
sophielouise12345 said:
Sorry but she can’t seriously be sticking up for shane in this and say she can’t say what’s right and wrong? Like there’s videos and evidence everywhere. You can see what I’ve replied to her 😠😠
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Even if Shane was able to get some forgiveness as the jokes he made were a while ago, it was only last year that he bullies and tried to tarnish the career of someone 10 years younger than him. How can she still support someone who does that? Plus it was only the other week when she was posting about how disgusting the police treatment of black people still is in America, yet now is supporting a man who’s made countless racist jokes, and she has a baby girl yet also seems to support his perverted actions towards young girls. I’m sorry but she is going to seriously regret this one day, especially if her quality of YouTube videos keeps declining and she has to get a real job because nowadays the first thing an employer would do is google you and she has quite a few questionable things about her out there on the internet, most of them said by her.
 
sophielouise12345 said:
Sorry but she can’t seriously be sticking up for shane in this and say she can’t say what’s right and wrong? Like there’s videos and evidence everywhere. You can see what I’ve replied to her 😠😠
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"once he has taken responsibility and accountability"

Okay but he hasn't, and he's not going to?

Makes all her BLM and feminist stuff look totally performative, if she'll still support a sexist racist influencer.

Sure people can grow and change but there's 0 indication that Shane has done so genuinely.

Also no matter how much some people grow their past actions will mean that they don't deserve a platform. I believe Shane's past behaviour crosses into this line.

"cancel culture is toxic"

That's a funny way to say "no one should be called out and deplatformed for repeated hate speech and actions against minorities and children"
 
My cousin watches her video and seems to like her (don’t ask my why 😂). On her recent video she commented that she needs to get some mental help as she’s most likely suffering from PND (as most of us have agreed on here - my cousin doesn’t read tattle life btw) and said that Mabel needs her happy mum back. It was a really nice, caring comment and guess what Mia has done...of course she’s deleted it!
 
Ah important note is she will still get money for videos where she’s sad. Title is click bait imo, we all know her videos are boring and she lacks ideas. Yes her feelings may be real but she will still monetise off then.. nobody forced her to make a video talking about how sad she is. It’s still all for views like everything is
 
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