Love Island 2022 #35 She did not even cry when Andrew licked da boobs of de coco… & she’s crying now…!

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All she said was she hoped he hadn’t told anyone.(that they’d hugged? That she’d accidentally touched his boner? That he tried to instigate something and she turned him down? That she told him something in confidence… what? She wasn’t explicit)

she then rambled a bit about how they were both attractive people, they were friends etc. She never referenced if anything happened or what had happened.

George has changed his story around a bit. He got the first word in with the boys in the morning, “Something pretty mad happened last night," "There was some touching going on," "little play around". Pretty vague IMO. Did he graze a boob? Kiss? Did she have a fondle? Is it all male bravado here? Doesn’t matter though. George is a man and gets believed as the default.

later he has said nothing happened, but then has changed that to saying their hands were “where they shouldn’t have been.” Again, what does that mean?

it doesn’t help that Shitemore is wading in on it. She said on after sun that she saw Ekin Su have a “fiddle” except you didn’t Laura, you saw what the rest of us did? And since they were under a duvet we didn’t see much.
Unless LI has some under cover, duvet penetrating cameras they showed you?

so we have a situation where Ekin su never actually acknowledged anything happening, last night she outright denied something happened, (she jumped out of bed and was clothed in PJs as well).
Not only that but George himself hasn’t been explicit about what happened, he’s been vague and has changed his mind a couple of times, plus he has ulterior motives to want to keep talking about this, as a failed casa boy. Ultimately, it looks as though this is being exaggerated by Laura Whitmore and production to create drama at Ekin Su and, to a lesser extent, Davide’s expense.

Everyone is assuming something *must* have happened, because George alluded to it and because of how production are handling it. And since society is ready to judge women at the slightest provocatIon, we assume something has happened despite Ekin explicitly saying otherwise.

And while all this speculation is going on - no one is taking notice of the fact that Davide kissed two girls, and only told Ekin about one. Plus, Ekin and Davide are essentially single anyway. She is allowed to be finger banged or touched up when she wants.

Havent we all suffered a backlash from a guy we friend zoned? A man who couldn’t handle rejection so slut shamed you? Called you a “prick tease” or in George’s case, a “nightmare” for not going along with it? For daring to make him desire you sexually but not allowing it to go further? This whole episode is just another reminder for me of how backward Love Island is becoming. I don’t remember it being this misogynistic before, maybe I’m just older and wiser.



except… we don’t know anything did happen. She’s saying repeatedly that nothing happened. Why don’t you believe her?


100% agree. Looked more like George was trying it on after Ekin had said we are just friends. Why isn't he getting bashed for pushing it with her. Just cause she's a strong woman she could have still felt uncomfortable in that situation.
 
100% agree. Looked more like George was trying it on after Ekin had said we are just friends. Why isn't he getting bashed for pushing it with her. Just cause she's a strong woman she could have still felt uncomfortable in that situation.
My question is why are LI even entertaining this? I get teasing a flirtation but this is such a he said she said except she can’t really say anything as she doesn’t know what he’s saying. It’s not a good look on the show to be encouraging him.

Having said that I think Ekin will be fine. I don’t believe she did anything significant with him but She very deliberately pulled him for a chat and left the situation ambiguous specifically for movie night. She’s a master at this.
 
Ekin gave Davide a blowie and she implied he didn’t last very long
Oh sorry yes I remember that🤣🤣Picked it up wrong!
My question is why are LI even entertaining this? I get teasing a flirtation but this is such a he said she said except she can’t really say anything as she doesn’t know what he’s saying. It’s not a good look on the show to be encouraging him.

Having said that I think Ekin will be fine. I don’t believe she did anything significant with him but She very deliberately pulled him for a chat and left the situation ambiguous specifically for movie night. She’s a master at this.
Yeh love Ekin but she knew what she she doing pulling him for a chat!!Just hope her & Davide will be ok..love them together & dying to see them go into the Hideaway🤣🤣🤣
 
I’ve just been thinking about the gemma movie we saw. Now I’m not Lucas #1 fan AT ALL (I’ll leave that to @Laika1234 😋) BUT I will accept he’s seeing someone he “loves” 🙄 flirting with someone else and making fun of him and I can accept he’s hurt by it. From how we have seen gemma react to his carry on before I think she will handle it in much the same way, but I think in this case, to be 100% fair to Luca, he does deserve more than her usual robotic shut down. I don’t think she did anything wrong flirting with billy but the mocking way she spoke about him, someone she supposedly loves, wasn’t really fair, even if the beanbag positioning was extremely weird 😂

ok normal service resumes from now no more Luca sympathy from me 😂😂😂

Nah, he's pissed off with himself that he left her unattended long enough for another man to engage her in conversation.

The red flags are screaming at me here.
 
Nah, he's pissed off with himself that he left her unattended long enough for another man to engage her in conversation.

The red flags are screaming at me here.
Oh his mask definitely slipped last night and in real life he would have given Gemma both barrells. He's a man that has a temper that simmers under the surface and for the most part keeps himself in check but I see a controlling man who has the potential to get very angry when his favourite toy isn't playing ball. For all Gemmas maturity she's still somehow been backed into a corner with his lovebombing behaviour. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
My question is why are LI even entertaining this? I get teasing a flirtation but this is such a he said she said except she can’t really say anything as she doesn’t know what he’s saying. It’s not a good look on the show to be encouraging him.

LI entertains this because they are problematic themselves, if Executive Produer Mike Spencer is anything to go by.

the producers are happy to watch Jacques’ misogny unfold, in fact, Mike Spencer (who has worked in Love Island for years) called Jacques “amazing” 🤢

When the tit hits the fan, they spin it as his choice to leave and as some sort of mental health story, essentially covering up for him. Mike Spencer has reiterated that Jacques leaving was a mental health issue - except, was it? I’d say it was very much his toxic and fragile masculinity that made it untenable for him to stay.

the producers are happy to showcase Lucas possessiveness and gaslighting, his anger issues and snide remarks (usually aimed at Ekin or Tasha).

the producers are happy for Ekin and Danica to endure some subtle bullying and double standards.

the producers have sat back and watched as Dami has lied and manipulated his way through the show, they’ve watched him exploit the power imbalance in the casa situation along with Jacques, with the girls in there.

the producers have worked with Shitmore to propagate the idea that something happened between Ekin and George for cheap drama, despite the fact Ekin - the number one creator of drama and entertainment on the show - has repeatedly and explicitly said, nothing happened.

the producers clearly have zero morals and probably huge misogynists themselves. Most of Lifted Entertainments production is male. Mike Spencer has referred to Adam as a “lovely guy”. Really?! REALLY?! The guy that could compete for Britain if gasligthing was an Olympic sport? The same guy who faced criticism from leading charities for his behaviour towards women? He’s a “lovely guy” ?!?!

no wonder Jacques and Luca are thriving on this show if Mike Spencer is reflective of the general production teams’ attitude.

Mike Spencer outright refuses to acknowledge toxic masculinity or that there is a possibility of there even being a problem. He thinks it ca be dismissed as “subjective” and that apparently having empower women cancels out any toxic masculinity. Except a woman being empowered has nothing to do with how toxic or misogynist a man is? And lots of “normal” relationships have elements of misogyny in them. It’s a widespread problem. Mike Spencer might as well come out and say “Jacques being sexist and dismissive, Luca being possessive… it’s just normal. As besides, the girls are empowered and they can take it.” He literally normalises misogyny;

“I think it’s incredibly subjective,” Spencer says. “Everyone has different interpretations of behavioral traits. I think the program showcases normal relationships. There are also very empowered women on the show.”

The charity Women’s Aid has raised concerns multiple times about Collard’s antics, but Spencer believes the term ‘toxic masculinity’ goes too far when it comes to Love Island.

“I would be cautious about using a phrase like toxic masculinity. We showcase real relationships and real people, which is why the show is relatable. There are ups and downs in every relationship. We care for our Islanders and make sure they are protected. I wouldn’t want to bandy about a term like toxic masculinity which is so serious when globally there are people going through very extreme things in their relationships.”



 
100% agree. Looked more like George was trying it on after Ekin had said we are just friends. Why isn't he getting bashed for pushing it with her. Just cause she's a strong woman she could have still felt uncomfortable in that situation.
But why then if nothing happened did she ask him not to say anything to the boys ( he already had!) something clearly happened to warrant her asking him to stay quiet. If it didn't and she was just creating drama for air time ? Well that's kinda backfired now Davide knows ...but let's see if they play any footage of him in Casa...and how he explains himself to her !
 
The whole ekin and George thing isn't the producers doing 😆 its george that's going on tiktok and insta lives and saying all the tit with Samuel egging him on .he's old enough to make his own decisions and he just keeps digging himself into a hole .he even said last night that he never messaged ekin sus handler ? Well that's a lie 😆
 
Ekin’s undoing was even having that conversation with George the next day. She should have said nothing and then nobody would be any the wiser. Tbh I do think that their hands were touching places but technically it went nowhere so that’s why she’s saying nothing happened. But *something* happened, however minor it may be, in order for her to instigate that conversation the next day. Why have a panicked conversation with him alone to make sure he understands that nothing happened, if nothing happened? Surely this would not need to be said? I like ES but am not blind to her faults either. I believe she touched his boner and his hands possibly touched inside/outside her underwear but that’s where it stopped. I don’t believe she wanked him off or anything but it probably would have led to more if cameras weren’t there. That’s just my take on it 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
Yeah this is my view on it too. Whether she was right or wrong the subject of the chat in which Billy at least was clearly flirting was mocking him about how jealous he was. Billy was laughing. Ekin has been in his ear about Billy fancying Gemma. I get why he feels Like a mug over it.
I don’t blame them for laughing at him tbh. I would be laughing too if my boyfriend strategically placed a bean bag just so he could sit and stare at me conversing with another man.

Maybe if Luca took a step back and looked at how ridiculous his behavior was then he would realise why Gemma & were were mocking it, it’s beyond a joke that he can’t allow Gemma to even speak with another man 🤮 If he can’t handle that then that’s very concerning.
 
The whole ekin and George thing isn't the producers doing 😆 its george that's going on tiktok and insta lives and saying all the tit with Samuel egging him on .he's old enough to make his own decisions and he just keeps digging himself into a hole .he even said last night that he never messaged ekin sus handler ? Well that's a lie 😆

Laura Whitmore referenced it on aftersun, essentially perpetuating the idea that something DID definitively happen. And the producers have decided to showcase it on movie night. So you can’t say they don’t have anything to do with it.

Ekin’s undoing was even having that conversation with George the next day. She should have said nothing and then nobody would be any the wiser. Tbh I do think that their hands were touching places but technically it went nowhere so that’s why she’s saying nothing happened. But *something* happened, however minor it may be, in order for her to instigate that conversation the next day. Why have a panicked conversation with him alone to make sure he understands that nothing happened, if nothing happened? Surely this would not need to be said? I like ES but am not blind to her faults either. I believe she touched his boner and his hands possibly touched inside/outside her underwear but that’s where it stopped. I don’t believe she wanked him off or anything but it probably would have led to more if cameras weren’t there. That’s just my take on it 🤷🏼‍♀️

again, Ekin hasn’t had an “undoing” because she hasn’t done anything wrong. She had a conversation the next day to clear the air. Davide’s actions have been FAR worse: why are we focusing on a minor, may-not-have-happened event that she’s denying even took place? The double standards are blowing my mind.
 
Laura Whitmore referenced it on aftersun, essentially perpetuating the idea that something DID definitively happen. And the producers have decided to showcase it on movie night. So you can’t say they don’t have anything to do with it.
Laura watched the same thing as us and most people think something did happen. Mainly because george constantly keeps going on about it and mentioning it.which is himself and his own brain .
 
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