yes sorry that is what I meant! missed the fact they were on the panel!
Just watching today's, Frankie's face looks quite differrent, has she had loads of work done?
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Just watching today's, Frankie's face looks quite differrent, has she had loads of work done?
Pennypennypenny
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Yes they are selfish
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Gloria Rostron
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Is Charlene's hair real? I just saw a clip on YouTube and it seems to have grown massively in such a short space of time. When she had her Afro it was only as long as her ears and now it is below her shoulders.
rivermonster
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Did you see her on Goggle Box Celebrity on Friday - I was surprised how good her hair looked.
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Gloria Rostron
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Coleen really annoys me talking about how awful the Rwanda deportation scheme is. Coleen doesn't have the same problems of living on a small and over populated island that the rest of us do. Her children will be able to get on the housing market because Mummy can open her big fat purse and buy them a house. Her children won't have to scramble around for jobs because Mummy can promote their crappy music on Loose Women.
Greys1324
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asylum seekers aren’t the reason people can’t buy houses or get jobs.Irishgal85
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I'm sorry are you insinuating that refugees are the reasons for them problems?! Coz if ye are, ye are part of the problem...you can't get on the housing market due vulture funds and landlords buying them all up and inflating rent and mortgages prices.
Also see that absol horseshit of 'immigrants are taking are jobs'
1. They aren't
2. Employers exploit cheaper labour so they don't have to pay employees a proper wage and that is because of the policies made by the government. The problem lies with the rich getting richer and blaming immigrants on it
Also if England stopped joining in wars that have duck all to do with them, displacing thousands in said war torn countries then maybe there wouldn't be so many refugees....just saying
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Gloria Rostron
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We don't have space for more people entering the country, that is a fact. I am aware that there are other issues affecting our standards of living, but the Rwanda scheme is for the benefit of the citizens of this country.
everyoneistriggered
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More Ukrainian people have been accepted into this country than those refugees who arrived last year. Do you have an issue with Ukrainian people seeking shelter here?
House of Tea
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Having a daily arrival of illegal immigrants is not sustainable. Every country has borders and immigration policies and a right to stop people entering illegally. Other immigrants go through the proper channels to gain access to the place they would like to live. Just like we would if we wanted to live somewhere else.
I dread to think of some of their backstories, the tragic circumstances that made some of them leave their countries. However a lot of them are economic migrants despite calling themselves asylum seekers. (Look at those tragic deaths of Vietnamese people in the lorry - they weren’t fleeing war, they wanted a better life and paid money to be smuggled in.) I don’t blame people for wanting to better themselves but turning up at any country you like expecting to access cash strapped services is not sustainable or right.
For those who say they are fleeing war and are desperate, they have already reached a place of safety when they hit mainland Europe but they keep going until they reach here, putting their lives in danger in the process. The amount of money being made by this racket must be vast - the people smugglers, the immigration lawyers - including the shady ones who are being paid to find loopholes.
Illegal immigrants are not responsible for high property prices and at the moment there are lots of vacancies for jobs that nobody here wants to fill. The service industry has been hit hard by Brexit. So the argument that they are taking jobs is not valid.
However we are not a big country. And we are in a mess at the moment and for the foreseeable. People like Prince Charles and the archbishops who commented on Rwanda proposal are not affected by illegal immigration. They have multiple homes, land, wealth. They don’t need to access public services. The nearest Prince Charles will get to an asylum seeker is at a photo opportunity promoting himself. Perhaps he could commit to sponsor a set number of them a year, from the vast amount of untaxed income he gets from the Duchy of Cornwall. He has the land too of course, he could build some houses on his land, and as the Church of England is one of the biggest landlords in the country, perhaps they can too.
Immigration is putting massive amount of strain on public services that were already ailing. Councils are on the verge of bankruptcy already. Social services, housing, schools, NHS - all cash strapped and at breaking point. Extra people who arrive here with little are expecting to be housed, fed, medically treated.That means that people who are here legally are seeing their access to services curtailed.
The illegal arrivals do need to be stopped. However I do not agree with the Rwanda proposal. It just feels wrong on so many levels. It is supposed to act as a deterrent but it doesn’t seem to be working, particularly as the legal challenges are preventing it from taking place. But ethically, it feels very wrong. However I don’t, like most people, have the answer. It can’t go on though. It’s not racist to talk about these issues, it is an issue that a lot of people are concerned because it affects their daily lives. I suspect someone will jump on and accuse me of being a racist, but that’s their opinion. It’s a balanced post, trying to see things from all angles, but sometimes anything critical of immigration is immediately lumped as racist to stop the debate.
Back to Loose Women - Coleen seems to have bought herself a huge house with land. Perhaps she could sponsor a family, particularly as her kids are moving out. It’s okay saying stuff on air to make yourself look full of human kindness, but she has the wherewithal to make a difference in a way that most of us don’t.
I dread to think of some of their backstories, the tragic circumstances that made some of them leave their countries. However a lot of them are economic migrants despite calling themselves asylum seekers. (Look at those tragic deaths of Vietnamese people in the lorry - they weren’t fleeing war, they wanted a better life and paid money to be smuggled in.) I don’t blame people for wanting to better themselves but turning up at any country you like expecting to access cash strapped services is not sustainable or right.
For those who say they are fleeing war and are desperate, they have already reached a place of safety when they hit mainland Europe but they keep going until they reach here, putting their lives in danger in the process. The amount of money being made by this racket must be vast - the people smugglers, the immigration lawyers - including the shady ones who are being paid to find loopholes.
Illegal immigrants are not responsible for high property prices and at the moment there are lots of vacancies for jobs that nobody here wants to fill. The service industry has been hit hard by Brexit. So the argument that they are taking jobs is not valid.
However we are not a big country. And we are in a mess at the moment and for the foreseeable. People like Prince Charles and the archbishops who commented on Rwanda proposal are not affected by illegal immigration. They have multiple homes, land, wealth. They don’t need to access public services. The nearest Prince Charles will get to an asylum seeker is at a photo opportunity promoting himself. Perhaps he could commit to sponsor a set number of them a year, from the vast amount of untaxed income he gets from the Duchy of Cornwall. He has the land too of course, he could build some houses on his land, and as the Church of England is one of the biggest landlords in the country, perhaps they can too.
Immigration is putting massive amount of strain on public services that were already ailing. Councils are on the verge of bankruptcy already. Social services, housing, schools, NHS - all cash strapped and at breaking point. Extra people who arrive here with little are expecting to be housed, fed, medically treated.That means that people who are here legally are seeing their access to services curtailed.
The illegal arrivals do need to be stopped. However I do not agree with the Rwanda proposal. It just feels wrong on so many levels. It is supposed to act as a deterrent but it doesn’t seem to be working, particularly as the legal challenges are preventing it from taking place. But ethically, it feels very wrong. However I don’t, like most people, have the answer. It can’t go on though. It’s not racist to talk about these issues, it is an issue that a lot of people are concerned because it affects their daily lives. I suspect someone will jump on and accuse me of being a racist, but that’s their opinion. It’s a balanced post, trying to see things from all angles, but sometimes anything critical of immigration is immediately lumped as racist to stop the debate.
Back to Loose Women - Coleen seems to have bought herself a huge house with land. Perhaps she could sponsor a family, particularly as her kids are moving out. It’s okay saying stuff on air to make yourself look full of human kindness, but she has the wherewithal to make a difference in a way that most of us don’t.
Irishgal85
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The amount of folk who clearly don't know the Rwanda proposals but are all for it are hilarious ' wahhhh no space for them wahhhhh' yet the proposal actually states for every 'illegal immigrant' sent to Rwanda, Rwanda can send over people to the UK so erm the whole 'we can't cope with more people they need sent to Rwanda' argument is absol tosh.
Once again blame the tory government for the downgrade and privatisation of the NHS, the food banks, the low income, the down grading of schools, the tit show that is brexit stop bleeping blaming foreigners! Tories can 'find' money for essential services but can load money into weapons and military, can find money for their expenses and to keep their rich friends in business with shady dealings.
Oh and also the amount of 'illegal' British people in the likes of Australia, New Zealand, USA and Canada is never mentioned in these types of posts.
Irishgal85
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Not hard to figure out the difference....those being sent to Rwanda weren't white, Ukrainians white so welcome them with open arms.
Funnily enough there was another group in history that sent folk to camps and treated them worse than animals......
House of Tea
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I clearly said in my post I did not agree with Rwanda proposals. And said that the illegal immigrants were not taking jobs, or responsible for high property prices. I am however against people illegally entering a country putting pressure on services that are already stretched. That goes for any country, and if there are British people who have emigrated illegally to another country, that is completely wrong. It is common sense to be anxious about that. I am not blaming “bloody foreigners” but the ones that enter illegally. My preference is for Boris to be deposited in Rwanda with no chance of return.
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