Liz Jones #4 Why am I so miserable and can't get a shag? Is it because I smell and am a drunken old hag?

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Totally agree, that's what gets me, it isn't even good fiction that follows any sort of storyline, but then again, Helen Fielding already wrote Bridget Jones Diary and Candace Owens, Sex and the City. However, I think she may have been told to stop with the obvious BS because now her columns are devoid of, well, everything. Her re-telling of David and The Slope this week is testimony to that, in inasmuch that yes, that (or something like it) probably did happen, but ffs it was really boring first time and hasn't improved with age...a bit like jug ears herself to be honest.

Her new "mental health" trope is really bugging me too, she's trying to mimic what someone with depression may be feeling, but she is way too much of a narcissist to have any empathy or understanding. When she was talking about the futility of having a bath, because putting her poor body(?) through the process, only to have to keep repeating it is nonsense. A person with depression may not look after their personal hygiene as well as they should because of the completely crippling inertia that come with depression. A person can have everything they could possibly want, and still be subject to the horrible black pit of despair. You lose all interest in everything, things that used to make you happy, you just don't care about anymore, and you can genuinely just sit and do nothing, which makes you feel even more inadequate, until you may reach that horrible conclusion that there is just no point in carrying on, that you are a burden, that the world would just be better off without you. Even your closest friends and family can struggle to get through to you, that you are loved and needed.

Sorry but no, you don't have a routine where you watch Love Island and walk your dogs at night (with or without the aforementioned slope) and in doing so think about how, yet another person let you down. No it is quite the opposite, you are the one who feels like they have let everyone down. Ironically, it is all of her own actions that have brought her to where she is today. Unlike someone who is suffering from clinical depression who, haven't done anything to deserve the chemical imbalance in their brain that causes depression. Jones is just a greedy, nasty, narcissist who cannot accept that she's made crappy decisions, and whilst she has a well paid job, an assistant that can be summoned at the drop of a hat, her dogs and a roof over her head, she is still not happy that she hasn't got more, and will forever be the victim, but no, whilst she may well have a form of narcissistic personality disorder, it is difficult to treat, given that there has to be recognition from the patient that it is their own behaviour that causes the issues. Had a quick look at the description and prognosis for NPD diagnoses and it all fits her perfectly, in fact saw this quote and yes, describes Jones to a T.

A "pathological narcissist" for whom the "ego deal" has become "inflated and destructive" and whose "grandiose lies, poor sense of reality, sense of entitlement, and exploitative treatment of others" conspire toward his own demise.

So I'm not sure that she can change, but it still irks me that she can actually make a good living from her negativity and meaness and that the DM enable her in this.
 
How on earth does this vacuous waste of space get articles published? She’s a complete fantasist 😂
I used to 'enjoy' the dreary on that it was funny (although I was laughing AT Jones not with) but now......good God it is a complete and utterly borefest. Going over and over the same old nonsense that was dull the first time. When will the penny drop that she has nothing and no one only because of her awful actions? Writing about David's sex problems, ridiculing her husband's weight, calling her poor family leeches in print etc etc.
She is a truly awful excuse for a human being - the sooner this pathetic diary is canned the better.
 
I do think it's interesting that the MOS kept her even when they had Elizabeth Day (is the age Liz was in her "heyday" and writes about very similar subject matter: the men, the failed relationships, etc.) and Rosie Green (does the whole "older woman sex life" angle) as regular columnists. They're not my cup of tea but they do what Liz does better
 
Totally agree, that's what gets me, it isn't even good fiction that follows any sort of storyline, but then again, Helen Fielding already wrote Bridget Jones Diary and Candace Owens, Sex and the City. However, I think she may have been told to stop with the obvious BS because now her columns are devoid of, well, everything. Her re-telling of David and The Slope this week is testimony to that, in inasmuch that yes, that (or something like it) probably did happen, but ffs it was really boring first time and hasn't improved with age...a bit like jug ears herself to be honest.

Her new "mental health" trope is really bugging me too, she's trying to mimic what someone with depression may be feeling, but she is way too much of a narcissist to have any empathy or understanding. When she was talking about the futility of having a bath, because putting her poor body(?) through the process, only to have to keep repeating it is nonsense. A person with depression may not look after their personal hygiene as well as they should because of the completely crippling inertia that come with depression. A person can have everything they could possibly want, and still be subject to the horrible black pit of despair. You lose all interest in everything, things that used to make you happy, you just don't care about anymore, and you can genuinely just sit and do nothing, which makes you feel even more inadequate, until you may reach that horrible conclusion that there is just no point in carrying on, that you are a burden, that the world would just be better off without you. Even your closest friends and family can struggle to get through to you, that you are loved and needed.

Sorry but no, you don't have a routine where you watch Love Island and walk your dogs at night (with or without the aforementioned slope) and in doing so think about how, yet another person let you down. No it is quite the opposite, you are the one who feels like they have let everyone down. Ironically, it is all of her own actions that have brought her to where she is today. Unlike someone who is suffering from clinical depression who, haven't done anything to deserve the chemical imbalance in their brain that causes depression. Jones is just a greedy, nasty, narcissist who cannot accept that she's made crappy decisions, and whilst she has a well paid job, an assistant that can be summoned at the drop of a hat, her dogs and a roof over her head, she is still not happy that she hasn't got more, and will forever be the victim, but no, whilst she may well have a form of narcissistic personality disorder, it is difficult to treat, given that there has to be recognition from the patient that it is their own behaviour that causes the issues. Had a quick look at the description and prognosis for NPD diagnoses and it all fits her perfectly, in fact saw this quote and yes, describes Jones to a T.

A "pathological narcissist" for whom the "ego deal" has become "inflated and destructive" and whose "grandiose lies, poor sense of reality, sense of entitlement, and exploitative treatment of others" conspire toward his own demise.

So I'm not sure that she can change, but it still irks me that she can actually make a good living from her negativity and meaness and that the DM enable her in this.
Well said indeed. It’s surely time she was reined in from the falsehoods she’s peddling?
I think she is actually mentally ill, possibly personality disordered but incapable of cure or even betterment.
Her ego has taken a hell of a bruising in the last year. Consider?
1. David has truly gone from her life. Thank God.
2. ‘The Turtles head’.. well, it’s been roundly rejected.
3.New Editor( last Spring)… no more facelifts on the DM’s chequebook, definitely less article opportunities offered to her ,up and coming new writers. Incidentally the new Editorship is when she re-invented the Fake Rockstar??
4. Dissatisfaction with the random men who contact her on Twitter. She’s beyond rude to them and they run off.
5. She now sees what the rest of us see when she looks in the mirror. Still drinks and eats poorly though?
6. I think ‘The audience with Liz Jones’ bombed completely.
7. Possible dissatisfaction with Nic? She’s been taking potshots at Nic for a while.
8. More self inflicted money problems.

I think she fears losing her job. It must be a true reality now too?
I suspect the Australian trip was going to be made up, meet her dying sister and contrive some shite about a romance with Nigel but she’s thought better of it.. maybe her editor had a word. Yep Jonesie is sailing close to the wind…
 
She now sees what the rest of us see when she looks in the mirror

unfortunately though, she doesn't, she seems incapable of seeing it, her delusions grow stronger by the day,and lets face it, while the DM continue to pay her for weekly bilge, she continues to think she is better than everyone...she's even been nominated again....ok so she shared the prize with the much hate Jan moir, but someone gave her columnist of the year, sadly all this does is to continue her delusion, in fact, double down on it.
 
I'm surprised she genuinely believed anyone would buy The Turtle's Head. It comes across as a long, incoherent ramble full of slurs and vitriol IN THE FIRST CHAPTER ALONE! So did Eight and a Half Stone, but weight loss and romance are a chick-lit staple that there's always a market for. The company that originally published it is a small outlet that mostly does Christian material. I wouldn't be surprised if they banked on her name recognition just to bring in a little more cash for spreading the word about Jesus. The Turtle's Head however has nothing going for it and is potentially defamatory
 
I'm surprised she genuinely believed anyone would buy The Turtle's Head.

Because she is delusional and has an incredibly inflated opinion of herself, that is not rooted in reality. That she is now trying to blame depression (and everyone and everything else) on what people have done to her, shows that there probably can never be a redemption. The DM MoS need to put a stop to it though, it'snot healthy or sustainable, and whilst Jones has made a career out of hurting and offending people, the only person she is left with in the end is herself, but it is unacceptable that she is being enabled to put others down on her path to self destruction.
 
Because she is delusional and has an incredibly inflated opinion of herself, that is not rooted in reality. That she is now trying to blame depression (and everyone and everything else) on what people have done to her, shows that there probably can never be a redemption. The DM MoS need to put a stop to it though, it'snot healthy or sustainable, and whilst Jones has made a career out of hurting and offending people, the only person she is left with in the end is herself, but it is unacceptable that she is being enabled to put others down on her path to self destruction.
I hope fervently that she’s not stooped to telling porkies about her mental health issues. That would be a new low, even for her.
She still has a considerable readership and some of them believe every word she utters.
It’s awful to think that somebody might be in the throes of depression or anxiety and think she’s a ‘kindred’ soul?
She is misleading folk too? No one sees a psychiatrist the first time they book an appt with a GP? That really concerns me…😨😞
 
I hope fervently that she’s not stooped to telling porkies about her mental health issues. That would be a new low, even for her.
She still has a considerable readership and some of them believe every word she utters.
It’s awful to think that somebody might be in the throes of depression or anxiety and think she’s a ‘kindred’ soul?
She is misleading folk too? No one sees a psychiatrist the first time they book an appt with a GP? That really concerns me…😨😞
I wouldn't be surprised, she's been "deaf" for years.
 
I hope fervently that she’s not stooped to telling porkies about her mental health issues. That would be a new low, even for her.
She still has a considerable readership and some of them believe every word she utters.
It’s awful to think that somebody might be in the throes of depression or anxiety and think she’s a ‘kindred’ soul?
She is misleading folk too? No one sees a psychiatrist the first time they book an appt with a GP? That really concerns me…😨😞
To lie about mental health is below contempt but, in all honesty, sadly with her track record I wouldn’t put anything passed her at this stage as she has no decency filter. Hope I’m wrong though.
 
To lie about mental health is below contempt but, in all honesty, sadly with her track record I wouldn’t put anything passed her at this stage as she has no decency filter. Hope I’m wrong though.
Cards on the table: she literally sold her demented mother for Rothermere's non-dom shilling, complete with photo-spread. Of course she's bloody lying. If there was the slightest risk of any truth, the MoS would allow comments. Remember her recent 'brain' issues' (cava induced dizziness) and "driving while blind". She's lost all direction and is drunkenly flailing for interest... there is none.
 
My Dad knew David's parents- I won't specify where, only to say Scotland. That's another story!
@Minty_socks Yes it’s been discussed on here before if you scroll back?His lovely old Mum was in the local paper for her 100th birthday. She was driven along a beach in a sports car by a hunk?!
I believe I posted the link. Jonesie has written about them too( they appeared to dislike her!)
His dad has passed away at a great age after what seemed an interesting life abroad. I know David has been described a a bit of a black sheep but I always got the impression that his family( sisters in particular) cared about him. As do his multitude of friends on Facebook etc?
My son lives down the road from her care home actually.
 
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Probably not surprising they hated her, given that she was blatantly waiting for them to die so she could get her hands on David's inheritance!
And when he lied to her about a new car he'd bought out of one of the legacies (he claimed it was from an ISA he'd forgotten about) she went batshit. I have to confess I absolutely howled with laughter! I wish I could have seen her avaricious face contorted with fury...😁😁😁
 
@Minty_socks Yes it’s been discussed on here before if you scroll back?His lovely old Mum was in the local paper for her 100th birthday. She was driven along a beach in a sports car by a hunk?!
I believe I posted the link. Jonesie has written about them too( they appeared to dislike her!)
His dad has passed away at a great age after what seemed an interesting life abroad. I know David has been described a a bit of a black sheep but I always got the impression that his family( sisters in particular) cared about him. As do his multitude of friends on Facebook etc?
My son lives down the road from her care home actually.
In Tain? I used to live near Tain, so did my dad.
 
In Tain? I used to live near Tain, so did my dad.
No my impression as reported in Press and Journal was they were in Inverness? Her care home News bit was also quoted as Inverness. It will be in archive but jugears seemed to confirm she visited them there? They’d settled after a farm in Portugal and various other excursions. Hey but they may have been in Tain.. they travelled.😁😁😁
Just looking.. yep she was or hopefully is in Tain? My sons in Knockbridge. She does look brilliant for her age!
 
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Dreary. The usual...
 

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