Liz Fraser #3 Liar! Liar! If she wore pants they’d be on fire 🔥

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UmbrellaMadeItHereAtLast said:
Funny she’s not told us where we can listen to the radio appearance which means she can’t publish her substack post. Might it be on fantasy fm?
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CambridgeBun said:
If it happened, she would have shared the link. She links lesser things. It didn’t happen 😂
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However, she has found a kindred spirit in Jane! For Jane’s sake, let’s hope she’s single 😂

“…because *they* do things to piss others off.” Like shagging their husbands!
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And there’s a world of difference between a runner who is focused on improving their performance and someone who is running with an active and well documented eating disorder. One of the key elements in running a marathon - not to mention ultra running - is nutrition. A handful of cherry tomatoes and a bite of a pain au chocolat is not enough to sustain distance running.
 
CambridgeBun said:
If it happened, she would have shared the link. She links lesser things. It didn’t happen 😂
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However, she has found a kindred spirit in Jane! For Jane’s sake, let’s hope she’s single 😂

“…because *they* do things to piss others off.” Like shagging their husbands!
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Jealousy - of what exactly?

Of Christmases, holidays, and milestone birthdays spent alone because none of her friends, family, ex duck buddies, or even her own children can bear to be around her?

Of bringing four children into the world to humiliate, traumatise, and alienate?

Of having to have threads deleted on discussion forums, over and over again, because there are so many women bonding over the absolute shitshow you've made of your life and of theirs?

Of fake, grifting 'projects' that have no basis and come to nothing, because they were just fantasy playthings of a geriatric little rich girl with a narcissistic self-love complex whose disastrous, embarrassing life is still funded by Mummy and Daddy?

Of posting endless encomia to yourself because no one else has a good word to say about you?

Of continuing to pursue an eating disorder as some sort of achievement when so many of us have fought and continue to fight to reject these disorders, for the sake of our children and our families?

Which bit is it you think we're all jealous of, Liz?
 
ORhineORhine said:
Ref the radio thing last night, whatever it was, I still find it absolutely unfathomable that somebody whose own parenting experience seems so extremely – and I mean extremely - awful is a go-to rent-a-mouth for parenting/children segments in the media. I have no plans to listen to whatever it was, because there is nothing this woman could tell me about kids that I need to hear. Why is she ever a spokesperson for parenting, when it is on record that she hated being a mother, resented her kids, left the older 3 and emigrated when they were teens, and now seems to have little to do with the youngest? Whatever programme it was last night has zero credibility in my eyes, if the editors think this woman has anything in the way of valid advice on children, or indeed resilience. They might as well ask a bankrupt’s view on financial planning.

I know she loves to HELP people, but talking parenting bollocks whilst being a terrible – and I mean terrible - mother in real life is just ludicrous. It’s a joke. It’s nonsense.

Which of her ventures has ever HELPED anybody?

Even Coming Clean will hardly have helped people, unless they were planning on buying an alcoholic for £25K (+ breathalyser). I guess at least Liz’ experience as detailed in her book will show that it wouldn’t be value for money.

And, @Replyingnow , I wonder if we're all less than six degrees of separation from an international standard athlete, or two!
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I actually bought a copy of Coming Clean for a friend who is in a co-dependent relationship with an alcoholic/coke addict, in the vain hope it would serve as a warning. Liz’s descriptions of M’s behaviour and her reactions were v similar to my friend’s situation.
Didn’t help much but at least she didn’t get pg and move to Venice with him, is that a success?
He is doing much better now for unrelated reasons.
 
the venice diary wasn't posted yesterday despite two days notice because she was suddenly called upon to be a parenting expert in fantasyland a wooly hat Note this is not a great advert for her venice flat lettings in winter if it's as cold as she keeps saying. Then she said it would be today because she had to check and proofread it. And still nothing. So either it's going to end up like the submission guidelines and never appear or it must have needed a great deal of checking and proofreading or it's in a queue with all those italian magazine features that clearly never happened or we would have been spammed to death with them
 
UmbrellaMadeItHereAtLast said:
the venice diary wasn't posted yesterday despite two days notice because she was suddenly called upon to be a parenting expert in fantasyland a wooly hat Note this is not a great advert for her venice flat lettings in winter if it's as cold as she keeps saying. Then she said it would be today because she had to check and proofread it. And still nothing. So either it's going to end up like the submission guidelines and never appear or it must have needed a great deal of checking and proofreading or it's in a queue with all those italian magazine features that clearly never happened or we would have been spammed to death with them
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The first one has to go live. Surely? 🤪
 
It’s live and 🤮 what a bunch of nonsense and drivel dreaming. Clearly AI is her new friend. And I don’t understand- does she live there full time now? What does this women do besides run and post on SM. It’s a pathetic life. And without S? If true, God that is so heartless and cold. That poor innocent child - I can’t say what I truly want to say.
Plus if I was a Venetian I’d be mortified by her broad untrue generalizations of them - she writes like a tourist who spent a weekend there once 10 years ago. She really is in a time warp.
 
nopeasinapod said:
It’s live and 🤮 what a bunch of nonsense and drivel dreaming. Clearly AI is her new friend. And I don’t understand- does she live there full time now? What does this women do besides run and post on SM. It’s a pathetic life. And without S? If true, God that is so heartless and cold. That poor innocent child - I can’t say what I truly want to say.
Plus if I was a Venetian I’d be mortified by her broad untrue generalizations of them - she writes like a tourist who spent a weekend there once 10 years ago. She really is in a time warp.
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I assume after all that she didn’t have time to proofread or copy edit. Let us hope that potential subscribers might do due diligence before parting with their money, unlike those of us who made the mistake in the past. Caveat emptor, and all that.
 
Interesting “There will be podcasts, videos, Venetian tips and local secrets, night walks (of course!), running and Spritz, storms and Acqua Alta, beaches and ... coffee!!
There will be writing retreats, running retreats, and most of all... LOVE FOR THIS PLACE.”

We wait with anticipation, Liz, for these podcasts, writing and running retreats - all things that have been promised many times before and yet NEVER delivered.

By the way, what about that book you started EXCITEDLY writing at the train station some while back. I expect that project has been jettisoned as well now.
 
VielleFemme said:
Jealousy - of what exactly?

Of Christmases, holidays, and milestone birthdays spent alone because none of her friends, family, ex duck buddies, or even her own children can bear to be around her?

Of bringing four children into the world to humiliate, traumatise, and alienate?

Of having to have threads deleted on discussion forums, over and over again, because there are so many women bonding over the absolute shitshow you've made of your life and of theirs?

Of fake, grifting 'projects' that have no basis and come to nothing, because they were just fantasy playthings of a geriatric little rich girl with a narcissistic self-love complex whose disastrous, embarrassing life is still funded by Mummy and Daddy?

Of posting endless encomia to yourself because no one else has a good word to say about you?

Of continuing to pursue an eating disorder as some sort of achievement when so many of us have fought and continue to fight to reject these disorders, for the sake of our children and our families?

Which bit is it you think we're all jealous of, Liz?
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simplesimon5 said:
This human being of a mother is not in Venice I saw her near her home in Oxford today and yesterday she had her little girl with her. Poor child out in all weathers. I just don’t get it at all
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Running with her in the buggy?
 
UmbrellaMadeItHereAtLast said:
So what’s all the I’m in charge of cleaning the stairs in my Venice block for January and im not paying anyone else to do it for me rubbish about? I just don’t understand why she has to keep pretending she is somewhere she isn’t. Maybe she thinks it looks exotic but it just makes her look stupid and deceptive
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Maybe she just likes feeling she’s got one over people.
Would fit with the past behaviour.
 
The grift is back! She’s offering unspecified discounts to subscribers. Of course, off her Venice writing and now running retreats, “starting this year”, again! Lo and behold, stays at her flat are also discounted.. if you subscribe.

The reader offers won’t be published,oh. Too late! The giant coffee grinder isn’t discounting after all.
 
To be fair, the MN/TL ladies always advised Liz against making her current whereabouts known on SM. It's not a smart thing to do, for a variety of reasons. Be pleased she is finally acting on our sage advice.

And the cleaners also advised against intrusive posts about her children. So it's also good she's stopped the daily posts documenting the strangely concerning love affair between her and her youngest child.

Pretending you're somewhere where you are not is a bit weird, tho. It's probably easy enough to post without making any mention of your whereabouts.

Hurraaah for the Cleaning Ladies. Your advice over the years has been absolutely spot on! Even Liz Fraser - ever resistant to heeding anybody else's words of caution - eventually bowed to the wit and wisdom of us cleaners!
 
Although there is sharing you are cycling round Oxford in a hitched up mini dress with no pants when you have been drinking (remember that?) which is unsafe because it’s telling people your house is empty as well as where you are and that you are vulnerable for any predator types. And there is outright lying like the Venice stairs and other times she’s pretended to be in skye or Italy when she’s not which is both odd and destroys her credibility further. Especially as right after the stairs she’s talking about the gym and she only goes to the gym when she’s in Oxford anyway.
 
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