burgundybrin
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Her ED seems very strong atm. Lots of clues in what she's writing.
Liz Fraser #3 Liar! Liar! If she wore pants they’d be on fire 🔥
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ORhineORhine
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@burgundybrin The cleaning ladies put in a lot of effort to help Ms Fraser realise the harm to herself and others through her ridiculous and grandiose SM posts. She took on board our concerns and finally seems to have stopped posting about her fantasy family life and pretend jobs. For our help in her seeing the error of her ways I am sure she is eternally grateful. She certainly ought to be. It is so good that ultimately she could not deny that we were right on pretty much everything. (Ladies, we were BELIEVED! Have yourself a bottle of fizz on the steps of a public building!)
I’m not sure it’s up to us to support her through this latest manic phase, though.
I sincerely hope her family are now ready and able to give her the support she needs, because manic reels containing 25 selfies, or manic posts about writing – including sentences 200 words long – don’t suggest to me that she is embracing reality quite yet. Somebody is very determined to tell the world and themselves that they are happy. Should be a massive red flag for clan Fraser.
I suggest she still hasn’t found peace, that something major has happened to her family circumstances regarding the youngest child, and that running away from the reality of it - or writing her fantasy version of it - is her current coping strategy. Whatever has happened would probably be difficult for anybody to take on board, but particularly somebody with a tenuous grip on reality and the thinnest of thin skins.
Come on friends and family! This woman still needs some serious help. Her children need her, and she still doesn’t present as somebody capable of being a nurturing and safe mother. To any of them. Why don't you up your game and do something to help, instead of wasting your efforts on silencing the cleaners?
I’m not sure it’s up to us to support her through this latest manic phase, though.
I sincerely hope her family are now ready and able to give her the support she needs, because manic reels containing 25 selfies, or manic posts about writing – including sentences 200 words long – don’t suggest to me that she is embracing reality quite yet. Somebody is very determined to tell the world and themselves that they are happy. Should be a massive red flag for clan Fraser.
I suggest she still hasn’t found peace, that something major has happened to her family circumstances regarding the youngest child, and that running away from the reality of it - or writing her fantasy version of it - is her current coping strategy. Whatever has happened would probably be difficult for anybody to take on board, but particularly somebody with a tenuous grip on reality and the thinnest of thin skins.
Come on friends and family! This woman still needs some serious help. Her children need her, and she still doesn’t present as somebody capable of being a nurturing and safe mother. To any of them. Why don't you up your game and do something to help, instead of wasting your efforts on silencing the cleaners?
CloverFive
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Yes, I noticed that. Lots of references to lightness and not liking her body as it was, which of course means that the new relaunched Flying Solo - the running version - is based on a worrying premise/shaky ground meaning potential new subscribers are… yes, here we go again.
Marstonroadmrs
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Prime time slot…. 5am! I’m dying here 
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No serious runner is following this absolute nonsense for long. It’s the same self-indulgent drivel, but targeting a more discerning audience.
She’s a strong runner, but she’s competing, on every level, with other strong, sometimes better runners. She just can’t do team. I sense her balking when forced to congratulate another woman. This is why she won’t join the excellent running/athletics club in Oxford. s”she has a ready made elite running community on her doorstep, but she just can’t ‘do’ club, team, community. Flying, Running, Being, whatever Prefix-Solo is perfect for her blogs. Solo is what Liz Fraser is.
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Engagement is at an all time low. Even the pervs are giving this crud a swerve!
No serious runner is following this absolute nonsense for long. It’s the same self-indulgent drivel, but targeting a more discerning audience.
She’s a strong runner, but she’s competing, on every level, with other strong, sometimes better runners. She just can’t do team. I sense her balking when forced to congratulate another woman. This is why she won’t join the excellent running/athletics club in Oxford. s”she has a ready made elite running community on her doorstep, but she just can’t ‘do’ club, team, community. Flying, Running, Being, whatever Prefix-Solo is perfect for her blogs. Solo is what Liz Fraser is.
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Marstonroadmrs
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Prime time slot…. 5am! I’m dying here
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Engagement is at an all time low. Even the pervs are giving this crud a swerve!
No serious runner is following this absolute nonsense for long. It’s the same self-indulgent drivel, but targeting a more discerning audience.
She’s a strong runner, but she’s competing, on every level, with other strong, sometimes better runners. She just can’t do team. I sense her balking when forced to congratulate another woman. This is why she won’t join the excellent running/athletics club in Oxford. s”she has a ready made elite running community on her doorstep, but she just can’t ‘do’ club, team, community. Flying, Running, Being, whatever Prefix-Solo is perfect for her blogs. Solo is what Liz Fraser is.
Oh my. Her mum was a coach at the club!!! This makes it all the more strange she’s not a member. That she doesn’t run with her mum.
I see she still trading on “Coming Clean.” She knows her tales of woe are her only currency. #Fakeselling! #notoverit #mopsatthereadycleaningladies
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I think she’s really having to scrape the barrel with all this ‘only posting about running’ stuff. It’s all that’s left. I doubt it was her choice. I expect there has been some family revolt about her oversharing (kids, etc) (which she decided to say was her idea, about 1,000 times). And if there is a man on the scene she is now pretty much restrained on all the stupid thirst shots, so they have to come in the form of ‘look at my lithe running body’ and no one is interested frankly. Hence the dwindling engagement. Sorry Liz!
UmbrellaMadeItHereAtLast
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Here I am, mop in hand! Highlights of the week so far for me are shots of her running with a belly button and then the appallingly photoshopped abs close up where the belly button has vanished. But we know you have one. You have shown it to us often enough
Also the fact that hiding the likes on Instagram isn't actually hiding them at all (you only have to click and count). With just seven in two hours I would say that her run-fluencer career is falling as flat as a pancake. Let's have a think why. Could it be for the same reasons as her travel-fluencer career? In that it's all about me, me, me and I am great and brilliant (to be fair she is a good runner) and you too can run a marathon on fresh air and no training. Let's not forget that she is BACK (again) after picking herself up (again) from all the terrible things (again) that she can't talk about (but does in a veiled way incessantly) Maybe her new plan is to bore her followers into submission? I have been to Venice and liked it but I have been put off ever going again by the same shots and same lines over and over that still manage to tell me nothing i couldn't get out of the most basic guide book or a one minute internet search
Also the fact that hiding the likes on Instagram isn't actually hiding them at all (you only have to click and count). With just seven in two hours I would say that her run-fluencer career is falling as flat as a pancake. Let's have a think why. Could it be for the same reasons as her travel-fluencer career? In that it's all about me, me, me and I am great and brilliant (to be fair she is a good runner) and you too can run a marathon on fresh air and no training. Let's not forget that she is BACK (again) after picking herself up (again) from all the terrible things (again) that she can't talk about (but does in a veiled way incessantly) Maybe her new plan is to bore her followers into submission? I have been to Venice and liked it but I have been put off ever going again by the same shots and same lines over and over that still manage to tell me nothing i couldn't get out of the most basic guide book or a one minute internet search
CloverFive
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If I had to guess I’d say reading between the lines that she managed to wangle a second chance, with the caveat that there should be no over sharing/thirst traps and that he is perhaps of the belief that your past is in your past. Or maybe the therapy has worked, which would be great news for everyone involved. The trouble is there are a million and one running blogs out there.
There are also already lots of Venice instagrammers who detail places to visit/eat/things that tourists might actually want to do (if they haven’t already been put off quite comprehensively, which most people who’ve followed LF have been).
The influencer world is dog eat dog, and there are plenty of ex-bloggers out there trying desperately to make themselves relevant. Content has to be engaging and interesting for people to want to read it. With the personal taken out of the equation, it’ll be interesting to see if her engagement continues to plummet or if she will up her game and start putting some thought into it…
Marstonroadmrs
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she doesn’t make any money, does she?
She can't make any money. She hasn't done a day's actual 'work' in years. It must come from the house(s) and possibly inherited money. What a life! It would be so much easier to do good if you were so free you didn't need to make ends meet, worry about bills and could just sod off whenever.
CloverFive
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Talking head pieces on tv and radio shows don’t usually pay much other than travel expenses. Travel pieces for mags like Italia - maybe 250-500 quid if you are really lucky, with comped accommodation and flights. So…
UmbrellaMadeItHereAtLast
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a friend who is a journalist says amounts paid for magazine features are not great so unless it's a massive seller you will be lucky with a couple of hundred quid. At the rate of writing one feature every three years, that works out about 65 pounds a year. Most talking head things on the radio are done by phone and don't have fees. If you go to a studio you may or may not get expenses but it's still quite rare to be paid and if you are it's not much. So unless those hotels are paying full whack for whatever mysterious work she did for the two days her profile said she lived in Salzburg (with small child in tow) I think you are right - family money and or airbnb.
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Lifelong friends (new post on insta). Yeah. Such good friends that they’ve been there in all those hours of need. And for all those celebrations and birthdays.
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Lifelong friends (new post on insta). Yeah. Such good friends that they’ve been there in all those hours of need. And for all those celebrations and birthdays.
SharkAttack
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A woman’s running blog is SO niche that without any intersting extra storylines (and by that I do not mean ‘today, for the first time, I am truly happy and FREEEE!) her audience and engagement will be minuscule.
Love the way her appearance on this podcast is just her dissing Tattle (‘trolls accused me of over exercising, the lazy cows’).
Without us, what even is she?
ETA that last sentence is a joke btw. But with a tiny grain of truth as Tattle does seem increasingly to be the prompt for much of her content.)
Love the way her appearance on this podcast is just her dissing Tattle (‘trolls accused me of over exercising, the lazy cows’).
Without us, what even is she?
ETA that last sentence is a joke btw. But with a tiny grain of truth as Tattle does seem increasingly to be the prompt for much of her content.)
Most recent ME ME ME insta post: “I burst into tears with relief when I made the decision to finally CLOSE THE DOOR on things that no longer feel a part of me or my life any more.”
“It's takes a lot of self confidence and self knowledge to realise when something we have created has run its course, and it's time to move on.”
I take it she’s referring to her kids here?!
“It's takes a lot of self confidence and self knowledge to realise when something we have created has run its course, and it's time to move on.”
I take it she’s referring to her kids here?!
Hahahahahaha! Over exercising indeed. I'm nearly 60 and run, swim, walk, work,(that thing people who don't live in super rich fantasy land do, Liz) HAVE A HAPPPYYYYYYY LIFE and actually don't get pathetically obsessed with needing constant adoration. How dare that stupid arrogant witch accuse anyone else of bad behaviour. God she's repulsive
Blimey, if she considers the amount of exercise she gets ‘normal’ then she’s seriously unwell. I think the only reason she APPEARED to be eating more over the Summer was because she went beserk on the exercise front. In other words, if she plans to eat more ‘normally’ - eg, really push the boat out and have a pastry for breakfast, she will make sure she has run a half marathon first. Then another later ‘half mara’ (
) in the day to accommodate a small dinner. That’s why poor S was being shoved into that vile buggy all the time - so that Liz could eat minuscule amounts of what we normally eat. I’m not surprised S is with her father. He must have been watching all this and thought ‘enough’s enough’. Good on him. (As an aside, I can’t hear the expression “Good on you!” without giggling because, of course, it’s what the dear old Postie said to Liz, wasn’t it, when he guessed that she had set up that fabulous new and promising venture Edgeway Press, and he delivered the letter from Companies House!! I think the Postie even had a tear in his eye, as told by Liz. And, poor Liz, her new company was destroyed by trolls, just after she had extracted lots of money from people to set the venture up. How much more suffering can that poor woman endure? Honestly. She needs a holiday.)
) in the day to accommodate a small dinner. That’s why poor S was being shoved into that vile buggy all the time - so that Liz could eat minuscule amounts of what we normally eat. I’m not surprised S is with her father. He must have been watching all this and thought ‘enough’s enough’. Good on him. (As an aside, I can’t hear the expression “Good on you!” without giggling because, of course, it’s what the dear old Postie said to Liz, wasn’t it, when he guessed that she had set up that fabulous new and promising venture Edgeway Press, and he delivered the letter from Companies House!! I think the Postie even had a tear in his eye, as told by Liz. And, poor Liz, her new company was destroyed by trolls, just after she had extracted lots of money from people to set the venture up. How much more suffering can that poor woman endure? Honestly. She needs a holiday.)
Replyingnow
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Liz, now you admit Flying Solo is no more, will you be issuing refunds?
ORhineORhine
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Anybody remember specifics of the EMDR narrative? According to the new running podcast she "didn't need" any sessions in the end. I thought at the time Ms Fraser claimed she required a record number of sessions, so bad was her C-PTSD?
Did it just suit an agenda of the time to make claims about trauma, and EMDR? Claims which, it seems in hindsight, were not accurate.
Fancy putting these claims into the public domain, as though they are some sort of badge of victim honour. It's bizarre enough if it was just for sympathy and attention from strangers on the internet, but if it was supposed to help her control access to her child I think it might have backfired.
Spectacularly.
Did it just suit an agenda of the time to make claims about trauma, and EMDR? Claims which, it seems in hindsight, were not accurate.
Fancy putting these claims into the public domain, as though they are some sort of badge of victim honour. It's bizarre enough if it was just for sympathy and attention from strangers on the internet, but if it was supposed to help her control access to her child I think it might have backfired.
Spectacularly.
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