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I’m still riding the Kate is bent train.

What if Kate met with Jo knowing she’d bring Ryan or that Ryan would always tag along so she can kill Ryan because he knows too much but without the situation being looked to have been set up by Kate? Instead it looks set up by Jo who asked to meet her more privately but Kate was betting on this having told Jo to kill her off.

We all are thinking why would she go into a situation like that, yes armed, but still a pretty naive move? What if she has knew what she was walking into having set it up herself? Obviously that’s a big risky move for Kate to tell Jo to kill her off but if she’s bent then maybe she thinks she can handle it no problems and has the control? Since Ryan is then put in a position to take her out, none of it really falls to Kate and looks suspicious on her part if Ryan is shot in a manner to kill him, rather than shoot him to harm but so that he can still be interviewed and possibly rat.

Although, I would question whether Ryan would know who H is because he has always been more of a hitman than a mastermind so if he doesn’t know Kate is bent then it does beg the question of why not keep him alive and let him carry out my OCG stuff. That being said would he then try to constantly kill Kate knowing she’s onto him and not knowing she’s bent?

She’s the one with fingers in both pies, she gets the intel on The Hill and the intel at AC12. She knows that AC12 is onto Ryan and knows that Ted is relying on Ryan to lead them to H. So has Ryan become useless to Kate and too much a liability and she’s just better off with him dead anyway now AC-12 is fully onto him?

My mind is going at a million miles per hour I don’t know if any of that makes any sense!
 
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I like how jed entwines real life with this show. The Daniel Morgan podcast, the death in custody, the fact that the murder of the wee lad gail was investigating was studying architecture, as was Stephen Lawrence.
It as also similar to Christopher Alder who died in police custody and as they said on the show the cops were making monkey noises whilst he died and that happened and the cops got off so i thgt theyve linked Stephen Lawrence and Christopher Alder cases together for the show.
 
I’m still riding the Kate is bent train.

What if Kate met with Jo knowing she’d bring Ryan or that Ryan would always tag along so she can kill Ryan because he knows too much but without the situation being looked to have been set up by Kate? Instead it looks set up by Jo who asked to meet her more privately but Kate was betting on this having told Jo to kill her off.

We all are thinking why would she go into a situation like that, yes armed, but still a pretty naive move? What if she has knew what she was walking into having set it up herself? Obviously that’s a big risky move for Kate to tell Jo to kill her off but if she’s bent then maybe she thinks she can handle it no problems? Since Ryan is then put in a position to take her out, none of it really falls to Kate and looks suspicious on her part if Ryan is shot in a manner to kill him, rather than shoot him to harm but so that he can still be interviewed and possibly rat.

Although, I would question whether Ryan would know who H is because he has always been more of a hitman than a mastermind so if he doesn’t know Kate is bent then it does beg the question of why not keep him alive and let him carry out my OCG stuff. That being said would he then try to constantly kill Kate knowing she’s onto him and not knowing she’s bent? Has he become useless to Kate and she’s just better off with him dead anyway now AC-12 is fully onto him?

My mind is going at a million miles per hour I don’t know if any of that makes any sense!

I actually love this theory because Ted had just told Kate they wouldn't bring Ryan in because he would lead them to the big fish! So he had to die.
 
I actually love this theory because Ted had just told Kate they wouldn't bring Ryan in because he would lead them to the big fish! So he had to die.
That’s exactly my thinking! Her hearing that from Ted could’ve cause her to tell Jo to try kill her off in order to create the perfect situation to get rid of Ryan, who clearly knows more than Jo and might have useful OCG info that could unmask her.
 
oh mother of god! So many more questions tonight. I am getting the feeling they’re trying to wrap things up by bringing up so many characters and references from past series’.
I don’t even know what theory I’m going with anymore, last week I was all for saying Steve was part of the OCG now I’m tempted to go with the kate theory and she has killed Ryan as he’s no longer useful to her. I still think there will be a connection to what happened at the very start though with Steve taking the rap for that command that was given to shoot the wrong person. I just don’t know anymore. I need answers!
 
Damning evidence for Ted....



I need to rewatch but did anyone notice if Thurwall
was in the old photo that Ted looked at in his office of him with a load of other officers?

I noticed that Ted looked a bit unsettled when Chloe was showing them the other officers involved with the Lawrence incident, when she brought up Buckells and Osborne I think Ted looked a bit odd. I almost thought they were going to bring a pic of him up next 😬
 
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Call triple 9 ! I cannot tAke the anticipAtion!
Did everyone shout fuuuck sake at their TV at the end 😂
No I now shout
Mother of God!👍🏻

I'm assuming Kate sensed something dodgy so before she went to the lorry park, she removed the bulletproof vest I'm assuming she conveniently keeps in her boot and put that on underneath her clothing.
Anyone would sense something fishy at the second address. Especially an actor playing a cop.

I'm assuming Kate sensed something dodgy so before she went to the lorry park, she removed the bulletproof vest I'm assuming she conveniently keeps in her boot and put that on underneath her clothing.
Anyone would sense something fishy at the second address. Especially an actor playing a cop.
 
What if... the trailers aren’t actually trailers? And therefore not an indication of who is alive/who isn’t. Filmed and put out there to throw people off?
Kate is alive. There’s some filming footage YouTube and photos that corresponds with her bursting out the van shouting “armed police!”. It’s a big scene that wouldn’t have been filmed then edited out. Ryan is brown bread.
 
I like Carmichael... 🙊 and I don’t think that she is bent. She is a witch (without a doubt), but I feel like she has to be that way so people will actually respect her. Hastings wasn't alone in his thoughts about her and she wants to prove that she wasn't just chosen for diversity reasons, she was chosen because she could lead a team. I do think she could be of massive help in repremanding H if she allowed herself to work with AC-12 and not against them.
 
I now have serious suspicions about Kate. Ryan had no qualms about killing people without a big drama before and screaming to drop your gun etc. He killed the others so fast, he would have shot Kate quickly if she didn’t mean anything. Dot also took a bullet for Kate.
 
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Hold up. Why are so many people thinking Kate is bent? I would say 100% certain neither Steve, Kate or Hastings are bent. Yes I know this show likes to shock but having your audience invested in these three for so many years, watching them fight for justice time and again only to reveal one of them is bent would be utter madness to me. You have to be a real piece of tit to do this sort of stuff and I think all three have been written as genuine empathetic people. If one of them is bent I’ll be so utterly disappointed.
 
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I’m still riding the Kate is bent train.

What if Kate met with Jo knowing she’d bring Ryan or that Ryan would always tag along so she can kill Ryan because he knows too much but without the situation being looked to have been set up by Kate? Instead it looks set up by Jo who asked to meet her more privately but Kate was betting on this having told Jo to kill her off.

We all are thinking why would she go into a situation like that, yes armed, but still a pretty naive move? What if she has knew what she was walking into having set it up herself? Obviously that’s a big risky move for Kate to tell Jo to kill her off but if she’s bent then maybe she thinks she can handle it no problems and has the control? Since Ryan is then put in a position to take her out, none of it really falls to Kate and looks suspicious on her part if Ryan is shot in a manner to kill him, rather than shoot him to harm but so that he can still be interviewed and possibly rat.

Although, I would question whether Ryan would know who H is because he has always been more of a hitman than a mastermind so if he doesn’t know Kate is bent then it does beg the question of why not keep him alive and let him carry out my OCG stuff. That being said would he then try to constantly kill Kate knowing she’s onto him and not knowing she’s bent?

She’s the one with fingers in both pies, she gets the intel on The Hill and the intel at AC12. She knows that AC12 is onto Ryan and knows that Ted is relying on Ryan to lead them to H. So has Ryan become useless to Kate and too much a liability and she’s just better off with him dead anyway now AC-12 is fully onto him?

My mind is going at a million miles per hour I don’t know if any of that makes any sense!
Great theory and thoughts. Another thing is we never see what Kate is up to privately - all her scenes are in context with other people.

Steve, for instance, we see him "doing the right thing" when no one is looking - e.g. the £50grand in Corbett's basement. So at least we get a sense of his thought processes when he is in private and we know he's actively trying to figure tit out.

Kate on the other hand is always "on duty" and "strategising" towards certain outcomes so her intentions are obfuscated, in the same way that Hastings's are - we see them reacting to the turn of events, but their reactions can be interpreted suspiciously or innocently. Great writing.

I'm a bit iffy on Chloé too...
 
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