Liam Payne #5

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Chezza said:
I had to stop reading the Liam threads because the hatred towards all the women in his life is ridiculous. Come back to see if anything had changed, it obviously hasn't.
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It's not though...its literally only been maya and Kate and even at that, a lot of posters have been supportive/sympathetic to Kate until the last week or so with her obviously set up pap pictures.
Majority of the posts have supported Cheryl, his mum and sisters. It's possible to understand that it wasn't only men in liams life that had bad intentions you know
 
sam0206 said:
It's not though...its literally only been maya and Kate and even at that, a lot of posters have been supportive/sympathetic to Kate until the last week or so with her obviously set up pap pictures.
Majority of the posts have supported Cheryl, his mum and sisters. It's possible to understand that it wasn't only men in liams life that had bad intentions you know
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There's been a lot of hate towards Kate and Maya since the news broke and his threads became more active. Theres even been hatred towards Cheryl and suggestions she groomed him. There has been the odd supportive/sympathetic posts for Maya and Kate, I've posted several myself most have been very negative.

Never have I said that only men in Liam's life that had bad intentions. People are so quick to believe everything they read online or see on Tiktok without any actual proof. Do I agree with Kate staging pap shots, absolutely not but surely it's better she does this then start selling private details of her life with Liam to the highest bidder.

She's damned whatever she does now, she could've disappeared and kept her head down and someone would have used that against her. At the end of the day she's a young grieving women who has lost someone she spent two years of her life with, was their relationship toxic? We will never know, but even if it was that doesn't mean she can't grieve and miss him.
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Shadowlands said:
So the solution is to bash people based on speculation and rumours? That method worked out well for Liam didn't it.
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People will never learn. It's disgusting.
 
I don't think the split is so much the women vs the men in his life etc, but more the people regardless of gender who he was associated with in the last few years of his life, compared to his older crowd who lets face it, are far more well known and have much better PR representation.
The UK media in particular love a good xenophobia angle on a story (see Harry and Meghan/Will and Catherine), and so therefore it's easy to paint Roger and Kate especially as the ones who removed him from the UK, his family and son etc.
I do still stand by my previous post that the hoody pap walk was in poor taste, purely based on that appears to be the outfit he's worn when he was last with his family, as a gift from Kate I think she has every right to keep it and cherish it etc, but to include it on a pap walk when his family could well see, that is in poor taste even if she's the nicest person in real life.
 
MammaTubbs said:
I don't think the split is so much the women vs the men in his life etc, but more the people regardless of gender who he was associated with in the last few years of his life, compared to his older crowd who lets face it, are far more well known and have much better PR representation.
The UK media in particular love a good xenophobia angle on a story (see Harry and Meghan/Will and Catherine), and so therefore it's easy to paint Roger and Kate especially as the ones who removed him from the UK, his family and son etc.
I do still stand by my previous post that the hoody pap walk was in poor taste, purely based on that appears to be the outfit he's worn when he was last with his family, as a gift from Kate I think she has every right to keep it and cherish it etc, but to include it on a pap walk when his family could well see, that is in poor taste even if she's the nicest person in real life.
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She's not making the most considerate decisions that's for sure.
She must know what the one direction fans are like, even if the other members of the band and Liams family weren't keen on her (going by their posts and the funeral), you'd think she would want to try and win the fans over as they're very loud about it when they don't like someone. I think it would be hard to come back from pissing them off
 
shellie said:
I see the part you mean, but I'll put what I think it is in a spoiler so those who don't want to read won't have to.

I have seen a few programs where people have died and this happened. I think it is blood coming out of his ear that has darkened and pooled beneath his head that makes it look shadowy/played with. The blood darkening is something that happens after death, and the shade can determine if a person was still alive when it happened or not. Seeing as how it's dark, it tallies with the coroner's report that it was an instant death and he didn't suffer because if he had been alive even for a few minutes after the fall, the blood in the picture would have been a lot lighter.
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I'll put it under a spoiler so people who don't want to see won't, as I know there are those here who don't like talking about it.

I'm not a doctoBuffyurse, etc., but I have watched endless hours of programs regarding what happens after death, so I have learnt a few things. The simplest explanation is that when you die, your muscles seize, so if your eyes were open when whatever happened, they will stay that way because the nerves from the brain telling them to close have stopped working. Also, it's oogly, but eyeballs dry up really quickly, so they are, for want of a better word, stuck open until someone decides to shut them.
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The footage of him falling is rumoured to be out there as well. I know there are a lot of fakes around, so I have no idea if the genuine one has been gotten hold of; it's only a matter of when rather than if it gets posted, and I really hope it doesn't. The picture of him postmortem is bad enough, but seeing it happen...I think that would be it for some people and I only hope no sicko has sent either to his family.
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Where are all these pictures that you are talking about?
 
Hopefully she can use the recent post as a way to draw a line under it all, social media wise. Even if she has sold pap shots etc, this post emphasises her love for Liam, which will hopefully stop any speculation that she's about to sell him out etc, tell all etc, as it's unlikely she'd post such emotive tributes as she has done so far, and then U-turn on that.
 
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