Liam Payne #2

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Tuesdaysdoll14 said:
Jesus if he was taking pink cocaine no wonder he had lost so much weight. I’m surprised he could barely stand. It’s a deathly mixture of MDMA (which lifts you up), Benzo (brings you down and mellow) and cocaine (another adrenaline boost), ketamine (downer). The mixture must’ve had him completely out of i
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Thank you - honestly, so much for explaining - so much appreciated as I have heard my kids talk about taking Mollie, etc and struggle to decipher - I understand the benzos but the mixture? I feel you have educated me today - not that I can do much with the info as they are 20+ yo. Still, though, much appreciated.
 
MooBug said:
From what I’ve seen, sources say he had to have been clean to be able to pass this visa check. He had an X-ray and loads of investigations to be able to pass it, not just your standard blood tests etc. Although I must admit, I always thought he looked like he was high in quite a lot of the recent videos I have seen of him, including Kate’s TikTok’s and a lot of the comments are all people asking if he is okay and things.

I’ve also read that when he was at the hotel, the staff were the ones offering him the drugs and took advantage of him - again, unsure how true that is and I don’t think we will ever find out.
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Yes, a lot of TikTok influencers did tbh - people such as Max Balegde did quite a few and then removed them immediately after the news came out
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These substances only stay in your urine/blood for a few days.

They will still show in the hair strand longer, however if he was savvy he would of stayed clean up until the sample had been taken.
 
allgoodnamesaregone said:
Totally agree with you here. If you were truly heartbroken and grieving you would NOT be smiling going to the shop
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Sorry but have you ever lost someone very suddenly?

When my dad died I went back to school within two days. I loved him more than anything. I just didn't know what to do. When death occurs suddenly you can go into shock and do things that are normal. It all catches up in the end.

If she was papped going on a night out then fair enough, but her friends could've said 'Let's take the dog to get food just to get out of the house.'
 
Spectacles said:
So they host pictures from celebs calling the paps? So the pics can still set up or arranged between the celeb and pap but just not from Backgrid themselves?
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Yes, basically. For example, at events it’s not as if celebs are going around and paying every photographer to take their picture for Getty. Photographers will go to an event or fashion show etc and take pictures, to then sell them to Getty so they’re hosted on Getty’s site for Vogue, GQ etc to pick up and use in their articles. It’s the same for Backgrid. If a celeb stages their photos or calls a pap to take their photos, it’s not like they’re calling up Backgrid specifically. I’m sure Backgrid probably suggest known photographers to them especially if they’re able to buy those pictures as an exclusive so they make more $$$ selling them on, but it’s not to do with them.
 
frillylilly said:
Sorry but have you ever lost someone very suddenly?

When my dad died I went back to school within two days. I loved him more than anything. I just didn't know what to do. When death occurs suddenly you can go into shock and do things that are normal. It all catches up in the end.

If she was papped going on a night out then fair enough, but her friends could've said 'Let's take the dog to get food just to get out of the house.'
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Yes I have actually. Very very suddenly.
 
MooBug said:
I’ve never done drugs or even researched tbh, so I’ve no idea how it all works.. how does an x-ray determine anything?
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In visa applications they sometimes ask for an X-Ray if you have visited any countries in X amount of days that are considered a risk for TB, some countries ask for it regardless even if you havent travelled to these countries. So likely wasn't related to drug testing
 
probecco said:
These substances only stay in your urine/blood for a few days.

They will still show in the hair strand longer, however if he was savvy he would of stayed clean up until the sample had been taken.
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Thats what I said earlier in the thread - the visa was approved and ready to be issued on the Friday. My theory is that there was a big bust up with Kate and he could give a tit about the US entry requirements as he wasnt going to live there, planned to go home, and intended to get wasted in the interim.

The drugs it seems were not what he was used to and he probably took the usual amount
 
Bumble2019 said:
Watched the Logan Paul video with Liam. Was cringeworthy viewing I have to say. I wonder if he regretted it.

I keep reading that Liam was the subject of loads of piss taking memes in the lead up his death but I've never seen any, what are these, were they really that bad?
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This wasn’t that recent but I do remember he was getting the piss ripped out of him very badly online because of the way he looked, his jawline became very pronounced and was likely due to fillers. He seemed like a very insecure person, so it was probably hurtful to see people taking the piss out of his appearance.
I’ve seen memes with selfies of him and random phrases but I’m in my mid 30’s and they don’t make that much sense to me 😂
 
allgoodnamesaregone said:
Totally agree with you here. If you were truly heartbroken and grieving you would NOT be smiling going to the shop
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That’s bullshit I’m afraid!
I lost a close family member in an almost identical way to Liam and I can assure you, we were heartbroken and grieving, but still went to the shops etc. We were woken in the night with the news and I remember being awake for almost 24 hours and stoping at a KFC drive through for food and laughing hysterically at something (can’t remember what). If anyone had seen us then, they would have thought we didn’t give a tit about what had happened, but we did and this was a common occurrence during the time between the incident and the funeral (it took a while due to post mortem etc.) We were out of our minds! I remember having a conversation with a family friend in the street, just very normal and chatty then saying, “oh, btw did you know *love one* died yesterday? They were completely taken aback and in hindsight must have thought I was a heartless witch!
What I’m trying to say, is there’s no uniform way to act when you’re grieving. The poor girl is probably in auto pilot right now, not believing this is all real. She also has all the mad internet shite and guilt to deal with on top of losing her partner of two years. Give her a break ffs.

I’m also going to be very open here and confess that i initially blamed my loved one’s partner for not saving them (they were there when it happened). It wasn’t their fault at all. My loved one was an adult, who chose to take drugs and drink and chose to sit on the edge of the balcony, and tip themself backwards in the midst of an argument. That poor soul having to witness that then know they were being blamed for not stopping it.
 
Long time lurker here.

I think the main reason for US visa requirements was for work. Sure she was there but that was never going to last forever. America is where they all want to be. More opportunities, producers, fame, money etc

From watching her social media video of her journey home, eating steak etc, I don’t think they had broken up. Im not sure she’s that good an actress tbh. She is incredibly vacuous, shallow and with a very high opinion of herself, but I honestly don’t think 4/5 days after his death there was anything wrong with her heading out with her friends, to break the monotony of sitting at home going over every little detail again and again and again. Would drive yourself crazy.
 
MissGlitzyRitzy said:
I think what you are trying to say is its no secret that those in the industry will be on this non-stop conveyor belt.
Cheryl too met him at the birth of X factor sitting their with Simon Cowell, having risen up the industry ranks so she knows the horrors, and inside secrets and ultimately you sell your soul when you reach the top. The artist may not see that for years but that control over you, your growth must be so stifiling.

Wraps Cheryl shouldve left out the press digs however I think she had a day to consider and thought fck it. As the days go on it will unravel more and seriously we do not need to know about hookers etc.
What will tomorrow bring?

There needs to be some dignity as we are talking about a fall, a suicide who knows but it is a shocking situation as we know his lobby comment heard by onlookers was blaming being in a boy band. That is truly heartbreaking and says it all 💔

That was where his problems began and ended. The cycle of a boy band and a manufactured one at that.

Let's not forget Amy Winehouse was another artist still forced to sing in an absolute state. The final footage of her slurring on stage still in my mind. Why did she not get the help from her own management? 😢



These singers are real people, not allowed to be themselves and have to show there manufactured image at all times in public (imagine hiding your sexuality, wanting a smoke, a few beers outside at the pub, or going to a club to party with your friends and you cant have that freedom in public without planning) and at the heart of it is real human beings sacrificing their freedom because they have to if they want to be a popstar😔
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Not to go off topic but imagine being as fragile and unwell a person as Amy WInehouse was...and being booed by 20,000 people? I actually can't imagine that.

These are real people, with real problems, who are laughed and jeered at when they break...and then everyone is surprised and sympathetic when they die. It's too late then.
 
Tinkerbell cat said:
He seemed to go to the lobby then back to the room then back to the lobby and fell in the lobby and then back to the room and then the unthinkable happened so who knows, maybe he did want to try and climb over the balcony, misadventure as someone else has said. Off his head and he’s just fell, too out of it to protect himself, or jumping thinking he’s invincible.
soooo much speculation but I just don’t think we will ever know, either way that boy was not in the right frame of mind and it’s sad.

It’s so weird seeing the pic of him just chilling with his laptop in the lobby knowing that a short time later he was gone, in the most horrible way. It just feels fucked up and makes me feel a bit weird
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Yes agree. For me, was he sitting on the balcony rail and fell backwards, was he leaning over to see who was in the lobby and became unbalanced or did he jump. That surely will come out. Or is it a bit heartless to ask that?
 
Everyone’s allowed their opinions. Half of us think the way she’s acting is strange. Smiling while out getting dog food. And other half of you don’t think it’s strange.

we’ve all lost someone close to us I imagine. For me I think it’s VERY strange going to a shop for dog food smiling away like nothings happened.
 
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