Liam Payne #2

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allgoodnamesaregone said:
Considering she’s told me things about my family members who have passed that no one would know. Just because you don’t believe don’t put others down. Dick.
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Now now no need for name calling! But a celeb coming through to some random, yeah it’s bullshit. They know how to feed off your emotions and have the gift of the gab but if it gives you comfort then more power to you!
 
Princesst said:
I think the problem is it all LOOKS bad on her. Mostly because it appears her boyfriend of 2 years was in severe turmoil and she just leaves him to go home (his house where it appears they moved to be near her friends as she didn’t like UK weather) and then posts TikTok’s of her first class flight (which he would have likely paid for) her shopping and complaining about how eating in her car is weird and then complaining someone in a Halloween store thought she was older and had kids while her boyfriend is supposedly suffering a relapse and mental break. Then she’s shown with friends getting dog food in what appears to be a staged pap walk kinda smirking when anyone can get things delivered now instantly so there’s no need to go. It just doesn’t look like she cares to the outside world. But obviously no one really knows 🤷‍♀️
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The way it looks, is that she left him because she couldn't cope with his behaviour. She wouldn't have known he was going to die. She'd probably witnessed similar behaviour in the past and dealt with it by walking away. She's getting accused of being a gold digger, only with Liam because of the lifestyle he provided, but none of know the truth about their relationship. She may have left Argentina to protect own sanity, Living with an addict isn't an easy path to tread. I feel very sorry for her.
 
I think that most had come to the conclusion that it was likely family and other loved ones found out through the media, with no 'formal' support in place. Seeing that basically confirmed by his sister his sickening.

TMZ (and to and extent the person who first posted it on X) have a lot to answer for with that. They're not the only ones though. There's a reason that in the UK police will usually withhold names in the immediate aftermath and await permission from the family. Public nature of what happened would make this more difficult but so they still could have done better. Even just not sending out those breaking news notifications.
 
Princesst said:
I think the problem is it all LOOKS bad on her. Mostly because it appears her boyfriend of 2 years was in severe turmoil and she just leaves him to go home (his house where it appears they moved to be near her friends as she didn’t like UK weather) and then posts TikTok’s of her first class flight (which he would have likely paid for) her shopping and complaining about how eating in her car is weird and then complaining someone in a Halloween store thought she was older and had kids while her boyfriend is supposedly suffering a relapse and mental break. Then she’s shown with friends getting dog food in what appears to be a staged pap walk kinda smirking when anyone can get things delivered now instantly so there’s no need to go. It just doesn’t look like she cares to the outside world. But obviously no one really knows 🤷‍♀️
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I get what you mean but those are likely coping mechanisms for her.
 
GrilledCheese said:
I disagree. The fans at the hotel were very considerate of his dad's privacy. Theres footage of them putting their hands and bags up to cover the windows and stop paps getting shots of Liam's dad. A news channel used the drone, not fans. The fans set up a memorial outside the hotel and didn't film or harass his dad. He came out and thanked them all. He asked security to step out of the way so he could look fans directly in the eye when he thanked them. He looked like he really appreciated all the photos and messages left at the memorial. It must have brought him some comfort considering he was there alone (without family, although he had Liam's security) and could see these fans cared about his son in contrast to the paps who only care about headlines
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There were also some ‘fans’ who were filming his dad as he viewed the tributes outside the hotel.
There will be good and bad in all fandoms.
 
Serene Serena said:
The way it looks, is that she left him because she couldn't cope with his behaviour. She wouldn't have known he was going to die. She'd probably witnessed similar behaviour in the past and dealt with it by walking away. She's getting accused of being a gold digger, only with Liam because of the lifestyle he provided, but none of know the truth about their relationship. She may have left Argentina to protect own sanity, Living with an addict isn't an easy path to tread. I feel very sorry for her.
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Hard agree.
It's safe to say that, given what previous girlfriends have said, he wasn't the easiest person to be in a relationship with, and has used the threat of suicide as a weapon on many occasions previously.
At what point can any woman be expected to put the mental and physical wellbeing of a grown man above her own? How does anyone know what point she was at with it all?
People analysing her every facial movement on a trip out to the shop is ridiculous.
Anger is also a massive part of the grieving process and I'm not sure I'd feel very charitable toward someone who didn't want help and had been revealed to have called prostitutes to his room hours before he passed.
As for people saying "She doesn't need to go out, she should get it delivered" Why the hell should she stay home? She's done a nothing wrong. Her friends probably encouraged her to nip out with them for some fresh air and to break the monotony of what is bound to be an awful time. Some normality is good for anyone in that situation.
 
Louanne said:
Hard agree.
It's safe to say that, given what previous girlfriends have said, he wasn't the easiest person to be in a relationship with, and has used the threat of suicide as a weapon on many occasions previously.
At what point can any woman be expected to put the mental and physical wellbeing of a grown man above her own? How does anyone know what point she was at with it all?
People analysing her every facial movement on a trip out to the shop is ridiculous.
Anger is also a massive part of the grieving process and I'm not sure I'd feel very charitable toward someone who didn't want help and had been revealed to have called prostitutes to his room hours before he passed.
As for people saying "She doesn't need to go out, she should get it delivered" Why the hell should she stay home? She's done a nothing wrong. Her friends probably encouraged her to nip out with them for some fresh air and to break the monotony of what is bound to be an awful time. Some normality is good for anyone in that situation.
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This. None of us know what she’s seen or been through.
 
Can I just say - Backgrid are absolutely not “known for being paps celebrities call” because they’re not a paparazzi organisation. They’re the same kind of entity as Getty Images where photographers sell their images to the hosting site for other outlets to pick up. The lie that Backgrid = fake pictures was literally started by Larries to explain why these men were getting papped with women and somehow that has made it to general conversation. It’s not true at all. Fans or random people often sell their own phone pictures to Backgrid too because it’s just a hosting platform. Paps would absolutely try and get pictures of Kate after Liam’s death.
 
allgoodnamesaregone said:
Just because you don’t believe in things doesn’t mean you put others down. That’s just being a narc.
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duskwithoutdawn said:
Can I just say - Backgrid are absolutely not “known for being paps celebrities call” because they’re not a paparazzi organisation. They’re the same kind of entity as Getty Images where photographers sell their images to the hosting site for other outlets to pick up. The lie that Backgrid = fake pictures was literally started by Larries to explain why these men were getting papped with women and somehow that has made it to general conversation. It’s not true at all. Fans or random people often sell their own phone pictures to Backgrid too because it’s just a hosting platform. Paps would absolutely try and get pictures of Kate after Liam’s death.
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Backgrid defo are dial a paps
Lauryn begman and Lauren good gear use them regular. Chris being the one who papped begman preg in the green bikini...she denied it being the case but paps weren't allowed in the country she was visiting to just randomly follow ppl and pap them
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allgoodnamesaregone said:
Just because you don’t believe in things doesn’t mean you put others down. That’s just being a narc.
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If you say so septic peg 🤣🤣🤣
 
allgoodnamesaregone said:
Just because you don’t believe in things doesn’t mean you put others down. That’s just being a narc.
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I won't put anyone down who believes mediums are genuine. Who I will put down are people who pretend to have a gift to exploit and extort people at their most vulnerable.

As for comments about Kate buying dog food in public - bloody hell, people are so reductive. She's just experienced a bereavement, FFS, leave her alone.
 
Lucymyers said:
Backgrid defo are dial a paps
Lauryn begman and Lauren good gear use them regular. Chris being the one who papped begman preg in the green bikini...she denied it being the case but paps weren't allowed in the country she was visiting to just randomly follow ppl and pap them
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If you say so septic peg 🤣🤣🤣
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I mean, I literally explained why Backgrid isn’t dial paps. Because they aren’t paps lol. It’s like calling Getty images paparazzi. All Backgrid do is host pictures. Celebs can call paps all they want but that will be organised through the pap itself, not Backgrid. They’ll just buy and host the pics off the person who took the photos. They’re a hosting organisation, they don’t take the pictures themselves.
 
HaventAClue said:
h

as bad as the woman on tiktok saying she could see him and Tom Parker/david Bowie being there to meet him on the other side 😂
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David Bowie? I would have thought he'd have struggled to know which one was Liam Payne out of the five of them. Obviously not, if he's made the effort to go and say welcome to heaven.

Has that sketch artist done a drawing of Liam from the back, with Paddington leading him to the pearly gates yet?
 
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