Jenny Apple

[ScrattyRatty]

Someone mentioned that Josh will probably be married again soon. No one seemed to mind.

Of course there’s no toxicity or poison in your comment, or any of your other comments. You’re just here to spread love and happiness on a gossip site.

People who put their lives on YouTube will be scrutinized. I’m sorry you don’t see how that works unless you’re the one doing the scrutinizing.

I don't always comment when I read things that I do not agree with, but your constant chipping away with nasty digs where they are not justified are getting beyond a joke. I don't spread love and happiness, I just comment as factually as I can without making up stuff to get a response.
If I had seen anything to suggest some of the things you are saying I would would say so but for some reason you just seem to hate the Apple's and write any old nonsense in the hope of getting a gang response. Playground tactics.

 

[c.sabatier]

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My own experience is my partner leaving me the week of my diagnosis, so yes, I admire Kyle, and any human who stands by their partner who is unwell. Unfortunately, a lot of people leave in these situations because they can't cope with it

So sorry about that! At least you learned, albeit the hard way, that he didn't really love you. There had been someone who had posted in one of the numerous Tiffanythinks threads saying that her dad or someone's dad had already found a 'replacement' before the guy's wife even had died from the cancer. This type of cowardly, selfish behaviour is, unfortunately, too common.
A former neighbor's wife had died of lung cancer. This couple had been happily married their entire lives, and it had been the only marriage for both of them. The guy, who was in his late 60's-to-early-70's, ended up having girlfriends less than 6 months after his wife's passing. He never remarried for 'financial' reasons--He never wanted to share his wealth with another woman. What a surprise that, after decades of having lived next to this guy, his 'true nature' was made known.

 

[Doherty557]

So sorry about that! At least you learned, albeit the hard way, that he didn't really love you. There had been someone who had posted in one of the numerous Tiffanythinks threads saying that her dad or someone's dad had already found a 'replacement' before the guy's wife even had died from the cancer. This type of cowardly, selfish behaviour is, unfortunately, too common.
A former neighbor's wife had died of lung cancer. This couple had been happily married their entire lives, and it had been the only marriage for both of them. The guy, who was in his late 60's-to-early-70's, ended up having a girlfriends less than 6 months after his wife's passing. He never remarried for 'financial' reasons--He never wanted to share his wealth with another woman. What a surprise that, after decades of having lived next to this guy, his 'true nature' was made known.

I understand men move on quicker (let's be real, men do not cope as well as women when alone), but these situations are just awful. A lot of these people are bottling up their emotions and not giving themselves time to grieve, I can only imagine the toxic, reliant relationships they are entering to try and avoid their heartbreak. That being said, some people really just are assholes and genuinely don't care so much.

I find can no longer look at Steve Bland's social media, I find it bizarre the way he has erased his wife with his new one. I actually find it incredibly upsetting on behalf of Rachel, a woman I don't even know!

I see Kyle entering a new relationship in the future, no one wants their partner to be single forever, but I really don't see him marrying a someone new within a year! I don't think he even has time for that!

My ex was a coward, so shallow he would rather jaunt around the world and pretend like he doesn't have a daughter. That also shows me what incredibly bad taste in men I have haha!

 

[Eastsidebabe]

Someone mentioned that Josh will probably be married again soon. No one seemed to mind.

Of course there’s no toxicity or poison in your comment, or any of your other comments. You’re just here to spread love and happiness on a gossip site.

People who put their lives on YouTube will be scrutinized. I’m sorry you don’t see how that works unless you’re the one doing the scrutinizing.

I minded but I don’t generally reply to cruel statements that have no basis in fact. Someone said he was a sociopath as well. Didn’t reply to that one either.

 

[ScrattyRatty]

I minded but I don’t generally reply to cruel statements that have no basis in fact. Someone said he was a sociopath as well. Didn’t reply to that one either.

Yep, Kyle was called a psychopath, on what grounds, I have no idea. It's hard to reply to such comments when they are so random.

 

[mcl92]

They seemed bothered by the last minute appointment with the pulmonologist in the last video. It seemed like it interrupted their plans for the day and they seemed irritated to me. I'm not sure how far they have to drive to get to COH but maybe traffic was annoying.

I think Kyle is showing the reality of Jenny’s decline in health. He seems worried and is holding back tears. Jenny’s medication for pain has made her a bit loopy and nonchalant which certainly has impacted the dialogue between her and Kyle during the video updates in the car. More evidence to Kyle that Jenny is not well.

I like Kyle. Yes, people praise him in the comment posts. However, I have never seen him complain about his responsibilities or look for sympathy. He is committed to do whatever it takes for his partner and children to be comfortable and happy. He also needs to take care of himself to be there for his family. If Disneyland is what helps then great he has a place.

 

[Saydee]

Regarding Kyle.
I can't speak from a patients perspective, but I can from a spouse/carer point of view.
When I witnessed my husband declining and felt we was quickly losing any hope, his oncologist that we had seen on a regular basis for a few years put his arm around me as we was walking out of the clinic. All he said was "how are you coping with the situation, we never really ask you do we?"
It caused me to fill up and I couldn't hold back the tears. I started full on crying (with patients sat there waiting for their appointments, looking across at us), and I said "I can cope with his pain, I can cope with the weakness, but breathlessness scares me" And he responded "I know, it is scary if there was anything I could do to help then I would"
It was the first time I had cried around my husband and when I turned around and saw his face? It had scared him. On the way home his breathing started deteriorating and I realized he was panic breathing.
After sitting with him and talking through breathing exercises to engage his stomach muscles and calming him down, I made a pact with myself that I would never cry in front of him - ever!
What I will say with certainty is that if Kyle & Jenny have similar dynamics to the dynamics me and my husband had, patients & carers do bounce off each other emotionally. It's important to remain calm and not panic.
There has been a recent change in Kyles mannerisms and the way he engages with Jenny. He is probably knackered, with a mind rushing 20,000 miles per hour, dealing with tiredness himself, trying to remain positive, trying to keep Jenny calm, wondering what the next treatment will be? If Jenny will tolerate treatment?
It's just a awful awful situation for the spouse/carer.
Yes Jenny is the patient, of course, but that doesn't mean to say it doesn't affect Kyle. He is doing a great job in my opinion.

 

[mcl92]

Regarding Kyle.
I can't speak from a patients perspective, but I can from a spouse/carer point of view.
When I witnessed my husband declining and felt we was quickly losing any hope, his oncologist that we had seen on a regular basis for a few years put his arm around me as we was walking out of the clinic. All he said was "how are you coping with the situation, we never really ask you do we?"
It caused me to fill up and I couldn't hold back the tears. I started full on crying (with patients sat there waiting for their appointments, looking across at us), and I said "I can cope with his pain, I can cope with the weakness, but breathlessness scares me" And he responded "I know, it is scary if there was anything I could do to help then I would"
It was the first time I had cried around my husband and when I turned around and saw his face? It had scared him. On the way home his breathing started deteriorating and I realized he was panic breathing.
After sitting with him and talking through breathing exercises to engage his stomach muscles and calming him down, I made a pact with myself that I would never cry in front of him - ever!
What I will say with certainty is that if Kyle & Jenny have similar dynamics to the dynamics me and my husband had, patients & carers do bounce off each other emotionally. It's important to remain calm and not panic.
There has been a recent change in Kyles mannerisms and the way he engages with Jenny. He is probably knackered, with a mind rushing 20,000 miles per hour, dealing with tiredness himself, trying to remain positive, trying to keep Jenny calm, wondering what the next treatment will be? If Jenny will tolerate treatment?
It's just a awful awful situation for the spouse/carer.
Yes Jenny is the patient, of course, but that doesn't mean to say it doesn't affect Kyle. He is doing a great job in my opinion.

Thank you for sharing.

 

[Saydee]

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I think Kyle is showing the reality of Jenny’s decline in health. He seems worried and is holding back tears. Jenny’s medication for pain has made her a bit loopy and nonchalant which certainly has impacted the dialogue between her and Kyle during the video updates in the car. More evidence to Kyle that Jenny is not well.

I like Kyle. Yes, people praise him in the comment posts. However, I have never seen him complain about his responsibilities or look for sympathy. He is committed to do whatever it takes for his partner and children to be comfortable and happy. He also needs to take care of himself to be there for his family. If Disneyland is what helps then great he has a place.

Wow. How strange that me and you posted just one minute apart, but both pretty much wrote the same things

 

[Doherty557]

Regarding Kyle.
I can't speak from a patients perspective, but I can from a spouse/carer point of view.
When I witnessed my husband declining and felt we was quickly losing any hope, his oncologist that we had seen on a regular basis for a few years put his arm around me as we was walking out of the clinic. All he said was "how are you coping with the situation, we never really ask you do we?"
It caused me to fill up and I couldn't hold back the tears. I started full on crying (with patients sat there waiting for their appointments, looking across at us), and I said "I can cope with his pain, I can cope with the weakness, but breathlessness scares me" And he responded "I know, it is scary if there was anything I could do to help then I would"
It was the first time I had cried around my husband and when I turned around and saw his face? It had scared him. On the way home his breathing started deteriorating and I realized he was panic breathing.
After sitting with him and talking through breathing exercises to engage his stomach muscles and calming him down, I made a pact with myself that I would never cry in front of him - ever!
What I will say with certainty is that if Kyle & Jenny have similar dynamics to the dynamics me and my husband had, patients & carers do bounce off each other emotionally. It's important to remain calm and not panic.
There has been a recent change in Kyles mannerisms and the way he engages with Jenny. He is probably knackered, with a mind rushing 20,000 miles per hour, dealing with tiredness himself, trying to remain positive, trying to keep Jenny calm, wondering what the next treatment will be? If Jenny will tolerate treatment?
It's just a awful awful situation for the spouse/carer.
Yes Jenny is the patient, of course, but that doesn't mean to say it doesn't affect Kyle. He is doing a great job in my opinion.

I really hope you are doing okay now Saydee, you seem like such a strong wife and mother. Sending big hugs!

 

[ScrattyRatty]

The appointment came out of the blue, and Jenny was clear she likes time to deal with her anxiety before appointments, plus they will have routines to deal with regular appointments and this will have kicked things out a bit. Having cancer doesn't mean you aren't irritated by day to day stuff. Things have taken a turn for Jenny, she is having to deal with that anxiety too. Same as Sarah P, who has had a massive shift in her health. The future will be weighing heavy for both of them. Their partners are also having to deal with their partners declining health. If either were a sociopath or a psychopaths, neither would not have a care in the world.

And thanks Saydee, you know the situation better than most.

 

[PuzzlesAndWine]

Regarding Kyle.
I can't speak from a patients perspective, but I can from a spouse/carer point of view.
When I witnessed my husband declining and felt we was quickly losing any hope, his oncologist that we had seen on a regular basis for a few years put his arm around me as we was walking out of the clinic. All he said was "how are you coping with the situation, we never really ask you do we?"
It caused me to fill up and I couldn't hold back the tears. I started full on crying (with patients sat there waiting for their appointments, looking across at us), and I said "I can cope with his pain, I can cope with the weakness, but breathlessness scares me" And he responded "I know, it is scary if there was anything I could do to help then I would"
It was the first time I had cried around my husband and when I turned around and saw his face? It had scared him. On the way home his breathing started deteriorating and I realized he was panic breathing.
After sitting with him and talking through breathing exercises to engage his stomach muscles and calming him down, I made a pact with myself that I would never cry in front of him - ever!
What I will say with certainty is that if Kyle & Jenny have similar dynamics to the dynamics me and my husband had, patients & carers do bounce off each other emotionally. It's important to remain calm and not panic.
There has been a recent change in Kyles mannerisms and the way he engages with Jenny. He is probably knackered, with a mind rushing 20,000 miles per hour, dealing with tiredness himself, trying to remain positive, trying to keep Jenny calm, wondering what the next treatment will be? If Jenny will tolerate treatment?
It's just a awful awful situation for the spouse/carer.
Yes Jenny is the patient, of course, but that doesn't mean to say it doesn't affect Kyle. He is doing a great job in my opinion.

I'm sorry Saydee.
This is exactly what I was referring to with Kyle. I wasn't downplaying Jenny's illness or her feelings. I was pointing out how mentally tough it is to be a caregiver and all the things they go through that are hidden from everyone else. It may look like he's just doing some extra laundry or caring for kids and house like any "normal" woman would be doing on any given day but the strength you need for this is massive.

 

[Saydee]

I'm sorry Saydee.
This is exactly what I was referring to with Kyle. I wasn't downplaying Jenny's illness or her feelings. I was pointing out how mentally tough it is to be a caregiver and all the things they go through that are hidden from everyone else. It may look like he's just doing some extra laundry or caring for kids and house like any "normal" woman would be doing on any given day but the strength you need for this is massive.

I understood exactly what you wrote, and I absolutely agree. A huge amount of strength required.
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I really hope you are doing okay now Saydee, you seem like such a strong wife and mother. Sending big hugs!

Thanks I'm keeping busy and forever thankful that have kids that keep me busy, because otherwise I think I'd struggle.
And I respect kyle and the amma's of this world because they are all equally as impacted, even if others don't think they are
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The appointment came out of the blue, and Jenny was clear she likes time to deal with her anxiety before appointments, plus they will have routines to deal with regular appointments and this will have kicked things out a bit. Having cancer doesn't mean you aren't irritated by day to day stuff. Things have taken a turn for Jenny, she is having to deal with that anxiety too. Same as Sarah P, who has had a massive shift in her health. The future will be weighing heavy for both of them. Their partners are also having to deal with their partners declining health. If either were a sociopath or a psychopaths, neither would not have a care in the world.

And thanks Saydee, you know the situation better than most.

Being a sociopath or a psychopaths would probably be a blessing in disguise in these situations

And kyle getting married within a year? Of course anything is possible, but I highly doubt that.

 

[Marchonegypt]

I'm sorry Saydee.
This is exactly what I was referring to with Kyle. I wasn't downplaying Jenny's illness or her feelings. I was pointing out how mentally tough it is to be a caregiver and all the things they go through that are hidden from everyone else. It may look like he's just doing some extra laundry or caring for kids and house like any "normal" woman would be doing on any given day but the strength you need for this is massive.

When Jenny did her last? treatment Kyle said he wished he could talk to his therapist. Jenny asked him what he would say, he replied ' I'm frightened you're going to die today'! I'm sure he feels like that everyday but he keeps it from Jenny.
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I understood exactly what you wrote, and I absolutely agree. A huge amount of strength required.
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Thanks I'm keeping busy and forever thankful that have kids that keep me busy, because otherwise I think I'd struggle.
And I respect kyle and the amma's of this world because they are all equally as impacted, even if others don't think they are
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Being a sociopath or a psychopaths would probably be a blessing in disguise in these situations

And kyle getting married within a year? Of course anything is possible, but I highly doubt that.

If you don't mind me asking Saydee how long ago did you lose your husband?

 

[TryingMyBest]

When Jenny did her last? treatment Kyle said he wished he could talk to his therapist. Jenny asked him what he would say, he replied ' I'm frightened you're going to die today'! I'm sure he feels like that everyday but he keeps it from Jenny.
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If you don't mind me asking Saydee how long ago did you lose your husband?

Maybe I missed something in a previous video but I thought both of their over the top reactions that time were weird. Why did they both think she was going to die during that treatment? No one had ever died during treatment from that drug. Yes, she had reactions to some drugs but never were they likely to cause immediate death.

I follow another YouTuber that has to check herself into ICU prior to her treatment the chances of death from anaphylaxis is so severe.

 

[Doherty557]

Maybe I missed something in a previous video but I thought both of their over the top reactions that time were weird. Why did they both think she was going to die during that treatment? No one had ever died during treatment from that drug. Yes, she had reactions to some drugs but never were they likely to cause immediate death.

I follow another YouTuber that has to check herself into ICU prior to her treatment the chances of death from anaphylaxis is so severe.

Jenny seems to have (unsurprisingly) quite bad anxiety, I think she is just voicing her fears out loud. The first time I had chemo I hadn't a clue what to expect, I got a talk from the nurse beforehand who spoke to me about potential reactions and if one occurred then it would be stopped right away blah blah. Me being an anxious person started getting paranoid that i would die from an allergic reaction to the treatment, highly unlikely but I feel it was a valid fear in that moment.

All medications come with side effects, my friend passed away due to the effects of her immunotherapy that was supposed to make her life longer. Often with cancer it isn't the cancer that kills you, it is something different, and being in fear of an experimental treatment is totally normal.

She seems to have bad reactions to infusions, look at what the last one did to her, she was seriously sick from it.

 

[Marchonegypt]

Maybe I missed something in a previous video but I thought both of their over the top reactions that time were weird. Why did they both think she was going to die during that treatment? No one had ever died during treatment from that drug. Yes, she had reactions to some drugs but never were they likely to cause immediate death.

I follow another YouTuber that has to check herself into ICU prior to her treatment the chances of death from anaphylaxis is so severe.

Nicole?

 

[Saydee]

When Jenny did her last? treatment Kyle said he wished he could talk to his therapist. Jenny asked him what he would say, he replied ' I'm frightened you're going to die today'! I'm sure he feels like that everyday but he keeps it from Jenny.
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If you don't mind me asking Saydee how long ago did you lose your husband?

Just a few months ago.

 

[Marchonegypt]

Just a few months ago.

I'm so sorry.

 

[helpmeunderstand?]

Maybe I missed something in a previous video but I thought both of their over the top reactions that time were weird. Why did they both think she was going to die during that treatment? No one had ever died during treatment from that drug. Yes, she had reactions to some drugs but never were they likely to cause immediate death.

I follow another YouTuber that has to check herself into ICU prior to her treatment the chances of death from anaphylaxis is so severe.

She is an amazing person…I follow her too!