Jenny Apple #4 Tears & Ears!

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I don't fault Kyle for having a night out- it's good for him to get away and there will come a time when he won't want to leave Jenny and after she passes it will be difficult to have someone to watch the kids. But Disney again? Really? There is literally nothing else he wants to do?
Jenny is putting a lot on her sister. I'm sure Ashley is already gutted watching Jenny decline. That in itself is enough.
 
"I think the Guys night out was planned that's why Jenny was sulking and had a panic attack hence staying at Ashley's house."

OMG that does have the ring of truth to it, imo. But I don't believe he would have left Jenny alone to babysit. Not sure he would have left her alone in any case, at least without arranging for someone to stay with her. But I bet whatever his plan was, it wasn't good enough for her - pissed her off - and that could cause a panic attack.

Oh something like that. But I do think he's aware it would be dangerous to leave the kids with her or to leave her alone. I still have enough faith in Kyle that he'll do at least an adequate job of seeing her through till the end - and then, when she's gone, that he'll be a "good enough" dad. I really think so - and I need to think so, for those sweet kids' sake.
 
Jenny and her sister seemed extraordinarily close - I mean, come on....they shared a wedding day! Which surprised me since Jenny definitely loves the spotlight. But I definitely think Jenny can be exhausting.

Did I miss if they were accepted into the clinical trial? I know the previous video, with the scary thumbnail, they said Jenny wasn't 100% approved for it at that point.
 
Jenny staying over at Ashley’s was probably planned all along for the boys night Disney trip. Maybe this was the Oogie Boogie Bash and when he bought the tickets, they were for the guys.

I don’t feel too bad for Ashley. I see her as a huge supporter of the “entitled” attitude Kyle and Jenny have. Isn’t she the one who’s started the food train donation thing, as well as one of the Go Fund Me accounts? She’s probably entitled in her own life and uses Jenny’s cancer in whatever way she can to her own benefit.

Usually, and especially in their case as they are so close, siblings choose spouses that are very similar. Her husband is probably just like Kyle and she’s just like Jenny. I would say that her husband, in ways that we don’t see on videos, has more stress than Ashley. Not sure what kind of a nurse Ashley is but because of something Jenny said once, I think she’s a school nurse. Not exactly a high pressure job. At any rate, no way is she a bedside nurse. I’m not saying Jenny’s not an emotional vampire though, because she obviously is. Others love to play hero as they are basically martyrs themselves. It’s a win/win.

I think this family reeks of dysfunction and undiagnosed mental illness. The only one I like is Mike because he’s been through so many struggles himself and doesn’t seem to present himself as a victim. The kids (Jenny’s and Ashley’s) are ok for now, but someday at least a couple of them will probably be just as obnoxious as their parents. I do feel very sad for Ellis, as he is often overlooked and neglected emotionally.

I wonder if Ashley’s husband is gay too?
 
Jenny is the typical me me me sibling/ friend/ parent/ partner who will suck your soul dry! She's that narcissistic needy princess who will always prioritize herself over everyone else. She's the kind of energy vampire who relentlessly feeds off of everyone else's attention and energy. Even her therapists have suggested that she finds something to do outside of the family (in order to save their mental health I guess), but of course she won't! Who even knows if she actually cares about going to Disneyland for the rides or just for the attention.

Yes, Kyle is clearly on some mood elevating drugs. He was super depressed at some point, when the "bad news" scans came back and Jenny was given the news she only has months to live. Then they came back from the trip to Oregon and he was still so low he could hardly speak. He's been manic for weeks now, something has obviously changed.

If a person with undiagnosed bipolar disorder is prescribed an antidepressant instead of a mood stabilizer, hypomania/mania is the result.

You know what else? Who are we to begrudge them a little hypomania/mania. I would want a little of that mood elevating substance myself if I were in their situation and well.
 
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If a person with undiagnosed bipolar disorder is prescribed an antidepressant instead of a mood stabilizer, hypomania/mania is the result.

You know what else? Who are we to begrudge them a little hypomania/mania. I would want a little of that mood elevating substance myself if I were in their situation and well.

I don’t begrudge Jenny taking whatever she needs to take to get through, but someone in the household should be somewhat level headed and remember things like car safety and not staying out at Disneyland so late the night before that they are unable to feed the kid’s breakfast. These are just the things they tell us about.

Someone needs to be the adult and it’s not Kyle. He’s probably taking anti-anxiety meds so I hope his prescriber is taking into consideration his addictive personality. I can see one of their kids developing the same victim/hero/martyr mentality later on, due to their addictions and aversion towards adulting.

There are plenty of parents who go through much worse that Kyle who grow the hell up and put their children first. Jenny was a crappy parent before she got sick, evidenced by putting them on that horrible diet.

HaHa Jenny looks just like Pepper. Whoever above who posted that picture -🏅
 
Watching Jenny now in a similar situation to Sarah (RIP) it shows us just how graceful Sarah was in her latter stages (before Josh came in with the theatrics), Sarah had so much dignity, grace and composure. Jenny has lost the plot and needs some serious mental health support. I don't begrudge Kyle a night out with the boys, if l was living with Jenny ld be taking any opportunity l could and all the uppers just to put up with her.
 
Jenny and her sister seemed extraordinarily close - I mean, come on....they shared a wedding day! Which surprised me since Jenny definitely loves the spotlight. But I definitely think Jenny can be exhausting.

Did I miss if they were accepted into the clinical trial? I know the previous video, with the scary thumbnail, they said Jenny wasn't 100% approved for it at that point.
I did not hear any mention that is was 100% and frankly i question if this trial will go any further than a few weeks and she will be too sick to continue.
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I don’t begrudge Jenny taking whatever she needs to take to get through, but someone in the household should be somewhat level headed and remember things like car safety and not staying out at Disneyland so late the night before that they are unable to feed the kid’s breakfast. These are just the things they tell us about.

Someone needs to be the adult and it’s not Kyle. He’s probably taking anti-anxiety meds so I hope his prescriber is taking into consideration his addictive personality. I can see one of their kids developing the same victim/hero/martyr mentality later on, due to their addictions and aversion towards adulting.

There are plenty of parents who go through much worse that Kyle who grow the hell up and put their children first. Jenny was a crappy parent before she got sick, evidenced by putting them on that horrible diet.

HaHa Jenny looks just like Pepper. Whoever above who posted that picture -🏅
These children could likely have issues...deep seeded issues after this is over and later in life. My guess as young adults and adults they will probably never go to Disney and have to wonder how much of this YT crap they will want to watch. Probably some nice photos of their family in the good times before cancer is all they need.
 
Did I miss if they were accepted into the clinical trial? I know the previous video, with the scary thumbnail, they said Jenny wasn't 100% approved for it at that point.
I think she was being considered for a trial right before the LMD was diagnosed. The LMD was probs diagnosed on a scan to determine if she was eligible for the study. I got p/o when she said "clinical trials are annoying". Uh yeah princess - the reason you're still alive (and I'm still alive) is because of patients who enrolled in previous clinical trials. And that's why I enrolled in a NSABP clinical trial when I was diagnosed in 2005. Not once was I "annoyed" eve n n though I drove myself to every appt and chemo infusion visit, then drove to work afterwards. No shopping sprees for me.
 
I think she was being considered for a trial right before the LMD was diagnosed. The LMD was probs diagnosed on a scan to determine if she was eligible for the study. I got p/o when she said "clinical trials are annoying". Uh yeah princess - the reason you're still alive (and I'm still alive) is because of patients who enrolled in previous clinical trials. And that's why I enrolled in a NSABP clinical trial when I was diagnosed in 2005. Not once was I "annoyed" eve n n though I drove myself to every appt and chemo infusion visit, then drove to work afterwards. No shopping sprees for me.
She's still being considered for a trial. That's why she had to go in and talk with her team last week.

I have been in 2 clinical trials and one tumor research study. The only annoying thing is Jenny and her bullsh$t.
 
Jenny and her sister seemed extraordinarily close - I mean, come on....they shared a wedding day! Which surprised me since Jenny definitely loves the spotlight. But I definitely think Jenny can be exhausting.

I expect the dynamic of their relationship goes back to when they were children. Some people seem to get assigned certain roles in families don’t they?
 
I've been wondering for a while if cachexia is also related to the cancer using your food intake to grow (and the fat stores on your body already.) Obesity is a big risk factor for cancer because the cells can get so much fuel from your body (I think).

Oh I'm probably not understanding it very well, but I'm linking a Memorial Sloan Kettering paper about it. It's one of the best cancer hospitals in the US (it's in New York City). Hope I'm not spamming up the thread, but years ago I read about a study that showed that people who take Vitamin A supplements showed increased growth of their tumors, and that got me thinking about cancer sort of consuming people at the end -- I guess an invading parasite is a better image - using your body as its home, so of course it would need sustenance - where else would it get it?

This is so interesting. My mom worked at hospital for years & she told me that cancer will thrive on a person that weighs more. She said she sees heavier people waste away faster. There must be something to this. Thanks for sharing.💖 I’ve had 4 people in family die of cancer and my heart goes out to all who suffer from this disease. I am 61 & healthy. I ride in every cancer research bike marathons that I can all year round. I wish I could do more. Love to all🙏🏼
 
Jenny just posted this on her Instagram at least it's her kids and not another clickbait photo of her.
 

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Maybe it's just me ... but me thinks that's a very strange photo.
WTF. I think its a pic of the kids in the Family Bed sleeping. You know, the bed that they all sleep in with their dying mother? The bed that will traumatize the kids for the rest of their lives. I think she believes its a calming and loving pic to post. She gives them no privacy at all. Ellis will get teased for sharing a bed with his sister by his friends. Kids can be very unkind.
 
Maybe it's just me ... but me thinks that's a very strange photo.
I guess I simply see no point in exposing innocent children out on the internet. What purpose does posting that have? If you want to put yourself out there bald with disney ears so be it but this crap is just exploiting children.
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Yeah this family bed thing isn’t healthy. It seems to be Jenny wanting her kids to sleep with her every day because she’s dying and doesn’t want to leave them. And whilst I can understand that she may feel that way, I don’t think it’s fair to put this on the children.
"family bed" is a. concept that I don't understand and frankly had not heard of until this channel. I find it strange and so very unhealthy for all involved. And the poor children have no real say in it at all.
 
Family bed is fine if it’s what you just do as part of your lifestyle but the children were in their own beds before and I personally think that making them sleep in this situation because their mum is terminally ill could make them feel responsible for their parents feelings.
 
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