Jack Monroe #578 She’s been involved in more breakdowns than the RAC

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MavisBeacon said:
In other Patreon news, absolutely useless reply from their 'Trust and Safety' (hahaha) team when I reported that guest's account had apparently been hacked
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But she stated to 500k+ people in public on X that she is both technologically inept AND sick! How can she contact them in such dire straits? Surely, they should at least do a quick check in-house - be a bit more proactive...
 
hereforthechaos said:
Guest believes that if you are poor you can't have any joy or nice things, and you won't have knowledge or experience hence the vile slops. Aspiration is the final insult to her. I assume it's because she thinks she is better than the her fictional poors. It's vile
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It feels like she's cosplaying some sort of Dickensian poor because she doesn't have the genuine experience that she has made her brand. Its very shallow.
 
I'm on the fancy Haitian rhum* so am probably rather belligerent, for a change, but it's just so good to read posts of people seeing through this twit's bullshit. It's also been my actual day of busyness so am very tired and emotional but you guys are immense.

That's all. Now duck off 🤬😉

*My sister bought the rhum. I've never left Europe, FYI.
 
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Carefree said:
I'm on the fancy Haitian rhum* so am probably rather belligerent, for a change, but it's just so good to read posts of people seeing through this twit's bullshit. It's also been my actual day of busyness so am very tired and emotional but you guys are immense.

That's all. Now duck off 🤬😉

*My sister bought the rhum. I've never left Europe, FYI.
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Did you not leave Europe because you are a pov? ;)
 
chizontiz said:
I think a lot of it comes down to however the hellsite algorithm was working when she was at her most popular. She's only really ever been well known to those who spent a lot of time on twitter during a certain time, and even there's a 'type' the algorithm was selling her to (middle-class or at least university educated, left leaning, at least outwardly facing concerned with social issues, duck the tories etc etc). This was me for a while! For many that's just being in your twenties, for Jack and many others who were way too over-egged on twitter in that time, it seems to have become a career (*cough* the man who may or may not be a murderer).

When Jack started appearing in my feed I thought she seemed alright! I can't remember her that much from back then, other than she talked about how starving for however long meant that she never, ever, ever wasted or binned food (yeah right!) and one rant she went on about how sometimes the only food prep options for those with disabilities aren't the most eco-friendly and that isn't their fault. Fair point! I thought, not realising she had likely appropriated both arguments from elsewhere and was passing them off as her own struggles.

I don't think I ever actually followed her, she would just be drip fed into my feed so I never saw any of the madness. All I saw was the one tweet in 70 that day that was asinine enough for me to think 'she's alright!' I only heard about the Hopkins trial after the fact so didn't know any of the details but definitely reflexively thought 'good' when I saw that she had lost to Jack.

At some point the Sali Hughes debacle brought me to tattle (I'd never even heard of her before!). I saw the Jack threads were trending, and I thought 'I recognise that name...'. I wasn't completely tattle-pilled by that point because I didn't know enough, but the fact she had threads here played in my mind whenever she popped up in my feed in the future.

Then I came off twitter, needed to seek help for some of my own issues and so was on long-term sick leave, and found myself in a situation where I was needing to learn how to properly feed myself on v little money. I remembered Jack, had a look at her website, and thought 'what the duck am I supposed to do with any of this?' Again, I was just confused. She was telling me that she could make a tenner last a week which is desperately what I needed but NOWHERE on her website does it say 'spend £10 on X/Y/Z to prepare a/b/c meals'. It was all nonsense measurements of things that would cost me more than the tenner I had!

That's probably what gave me the impetus to look closer at these threads. Thank you, Sali Hughes! But also, thank you Jack because it was 100% her own shite conduct that lead me here. Anybody who still defends her must to so out of mindlessness.
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So similar to my own Tattle origin story! I liked her, even responded to one of her deeply worrying, baiting cries for help/tell me how much you all love me episodes AND worst of all...bought Tin Can't Cook expecting to save money. It was almost like as soon as I did that (sort of taking more notice of her/watching a bit more closely) the red flags started flapping in my face. Falling under a train chaos plus hearing her devastatingly posh voice on a video for the first time - the penny dropped like a ton of bricks.
 
I blame (and I know I’m not alone in the canal) her case against Katie Hopkins for giving her such a big platform and level of popularity (for want of a better word). People hated Katie Hopkins so much that seeing her get utterly twatted in court made Jack into a legendary “goodie”. And unlike us, most people won’t have read the judgement and realised what a tit case it was and how many of guest’s worst aspects (her lies and deletions of tweets) were on full display. Instead all they saw was the headlines and revelled in KH being made redundant.
If only karma would now catch up to Jack in similar fashion…

Edited to add… winning the case also cemented Jack’s planet sized ego and self obsessed narc tendencies and constant victim playing. It rewarded all of her worst characteristics and made her “untouchable” as far as criticism went.
 
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LizzieE. said:
When I first became aware of Jack, my hackles rose. I had been a single parent some years earlier (1996 to 2000). I had cooking skills that weren't huge but growing up without much meant we'd learned to improvise

Anyways, when this one appeared, I was no longer a single parent, had a 2nd child and life had changed a lot. But, I think she would have been that other single parent your mum knew and says you should be friends with her, cos she's really sensible and look how well she's doing for herself even as a single parent. All shy and sad! Look at her brave battle. Compared to me, getting pissed on a night out with friends and making 10 ciggies last 3 days, having take away once a month and serving oven chips!

I could not picture Jack out with the girls, drinking pints and wearing Primark jeans and loving it. Some of my friends were in similar positions, but we had each other, and we laughed ALOT. Sometimes cried, but no one was pawning stuff. Or ended up in the state she got herself into. It wasn't easy but I never clawed a radiator. I always had hope, perhaps because I was young but the future had me in it.

Times have changed since then. It's so much harder but her description of it was such tit and the fact people were consuming it wide eyed.

That's what annoyed me about her. It came from my marrow. I smelled the fake off her from the page.
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I wish I was your friend IRL, your group of friends sound 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
 
GazpachoPolice said:
I blame (and I know I’m not alone in the canal) her case against Katie Hopkins for giving her such a big platform and level of popularity (for want of a better word). People hated Katie Hopkins so much that seeing her get utterly twatted in court made Jack into a legendary “goodie”. And unlike us, most people won’t have read the judgement and realised what a tit case it was and how many of guest’s worst aspects (her lies and deletions of tweets) were on full display. Instead all they saw was the headlines and revelled in KH being made redundant.
If only karma would now catch up to Jack in similar fashion…

Edited to add… winning the case also cemented Jack’s planet sized ego and self obsessed narc tendencies and constant victim playing. It rewarded all of her worst characteristics and made her “untouchable” as far as criticism went.
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Does any one have a link to the judgement as I would like to have another read. Also did Hopkins not appeal? She should have based on guest’s current behaviour
 
Grifty Mc said:
Does any one have a link to the judgement as I would like to have another read. Also did Hopkins not appeal? She should have based on guest’s current behaviour
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try this tender stem? https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content...v-hopkins-2017-ewhc-433-qb-20170329-rev-1.pdf

also I am late to this but huge lol @ gregorian chant guest. guestgorian chant. idk. The account who tweeted about it doesn't follow her, so presumably never saw her reply, or indeed, will ever know that she can demonstrate the Macarena they mention
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elepal said:
Wasn't SB's dad a photographer?
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wasn't he the photographer of that very pic?


eta look at this defender:

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well that's okay then!
 
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Grifty Mc said:
Does any one have a link to the judgement as I would like to have another read. Also did Hopkins not appeal? She should have based on guest’s current behaviour
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"Official case documents" are linked on this page.
globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu

Monroe v. Hopkins - Global Freedom of Expression

Columbia Global Freedom of Expression seeks to advance understanding of the international and national norms and institutions that best protect the free flow of information and expression in an inter-connected global community with major common challenges to address. To achieve its mission...
globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu

I don't think there would have been grounds for appeal because Hopkins did misidentify Jack and then refused to make a correction, which was more on Hopkins' behaviour than on guest's. However, the trial judge was quite outspoken in their decision as to the (un)reliability of guest's testimony, which I believe is quite unusual in a defamation case.
 
ThePickledCrab said:
It feels like she's cosplaying some sort of Dickensian poor because she doesn't have the genuine experience that she has made her brand. Its very shallow.
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The whole point of cosplay is a) research and then b) get immersed in the role. She did neither. Clueless bleep.
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houseofhoop said:
Oh my god the tragic twit!! HahahView attachment 2988908 q
‘I tend to move in circles of cookery and politics rather than outrage and vitriol’
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bib aka egg rings (like a hula Hoop gifted by your therapist. Fancy that).
 
MavisBeacon said:
Guest's recipes remind me of the very worst of student cooking - someone who doesn't really know what they're doing just chucking stuff in a pan because it might go together and they're too hungover to care.

Also, because Mr Beacon and I are greedy bastards glorious foodies, we chat a lot about food, recipes, techniques etc. I showed him my fisking of guest's revolting white chocolate and garlic pasta recipe, and he pointed out something else that I had completely missed - ABSOLUTELY NO SEASONING AT ALL. No salt in the pasta water, and no seasoning of any other kind in the rest of the dish. So my observation that the instruction about cooking the pasta was fine was incorrect. I can only apologise for the oversight but I was overwhelmed by the mental image of the vile slop.
Revisit it here:

Jack Monroe #574 She's definitely lying about something

She'd be spying and squealing on everyone to try and save her own arse. I just know it. Her and her dad. She has powerful Bad Grass energy.
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Yes that's what irritates me about her cooking. She bungs various leftovers together ONCE, proclaims it amazing and calls it a recipe. I think a recipe has to be tried and tested a few times, at least three at the bare minimum. I've chucked stuff together and it's been lovely, but another time same stuff and foul. Once can be chance, repeat use turning out well is a recipe imo.
 
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