Jack Monroe #542 A dullard talking about Vienetta

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FourSeasonSoupObsessive said:
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Dear heart @Valiofthedolls, from what benighted hell hole did you dig this monstrosity? It looks like chargrilled ice cream.

on the Namaste theme, my yoga teacher called us all “dear ones” this morning and it made me inadvertently snort 🤣
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Sorry . . . hell hole? Is a hole - I dunno - a sort of well of some kind? I'm not terribly au fait with cookery parlance, I'm afraid.
 
RandomFishOils said:
Oooh, Julie Burchill has done a takedown of That Man in The Spectator, and it’s baaaad:

www.spectator.co.uk

The perverse greed of Jamie Oliver

Jamie Oliver campaigned against turkey twizzlers in the name of child development. Now his company has gone under owing councils millions.
www.spectator.co.uk www.spectator.co.uk

Of course, we would usually be expecting guest to be revelling in this kind of anti-JO polemic. However, she can’t raise her head above the parapet since the main criticism is, er, he’s been taking money off some of the most vulnerable people in society and making an absolute fortune on the back of people.
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And this is precisely why he isn’t above criticism just because “he does more than Guest” and why criticism of him isn’t whataboutery. Jack has done a loooot of things but I’m fairly sure she’s not taken literal millions of pounds from local councils and small businesses then left them high and dry while taking millions for herself. (She wishes).

It is relevant too because it’s why she’s not called out. JO won’t call her out for going after him when she could draw attention to this. Other famous people won’t call her out for her backstory when they’re doing the same embellishment. They won’t call her out for recipe plagiarism when it seems fairly widespread.

She is an absolute bleep and she’s notable for being particularly bad at the lies and cooking/being on tv/everything. But she is the tip of the grifting iceberg IMO.
 
SleevelessSlopSlinger said:
I’m sure she’d even find a way to elevenerife that. Her data would be the most entried data ever to entry.
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CabalofBolorneaise said:
And this is precisely why he isn’t above criticism just because “he does more than Guest” and why criticism of him isn’t whataboutery. Jack has done a loooot of things but I’m fairly sure she’s not taken literal millions of pounds from local councils and small businesses then left them high and dry while taking millions for herself. (She wishes).

It is relevant too because it’s why she’s not called out. JO won’t call her out for going after him when she could draw attention to this. Other famous people won’t call her out for her backstory when they’re doing the same embellishment. They won’t call her out for recipe plagiarism when it seems fairly widespread.

She is an absolute bleep and she’s notable for being particularly bad at the lies and cooking/being on tv/everything. But she is the tip of the grifting iceberg IMO.
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I get what you are saying, but unlike guest That Man actually produces something (cookbooks, branded products, restaurants, TV shows, etc) and some of it is quite good. Plus, he can actually cook.

He shouldn't be above criticism, particularly when his businesses go bankrupt and he's still drawing a nice salary and dividends. But he isn't sitting on his non-Mediterranean arse while getting monthly payments in return for doing eff-all and lying about it. I wouldn't call what he does "grifting".
 
hoopdedoo said:
I get what you are saying, but unlike guest That Man actually produces something (cookbooks, branded products, restaurants, TV shows, etc) and some of it is quite good. Plus, he can actually cook.

He shouldn't be above criticism, particularly when his businesses go bankrupt and he's still drawing a nice salary and dividends. But he isn't sitting on his non-Mediterranean arse while getting monthly payments in return for doing eff-all and lying about it. I wouldn't call what he does "grifting".
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Fair enough, but morally I think taking a nice salary and dividends from your bankrupt companies before all your debts are paid is as much fraud/grift as what Jack did with the sue Lee palaver.

I appreciate legally it is not fraud and he had every right to take the money, but it’s not moral and it makes him a massive hypocrite to then go on about hungry children and the government not doing enough - what about the children of the people working for the small businesses he fucked over? There will, quite literally, be kids who have gone without because he chose to take the money instead of paying his debts. Jack is taking money from people willingly giving it to her on the patreon and at this point anyone doing the slightest due diligence should realise that. JO took goods and services right up to the end knowing his restaurants were fucked and instead of deciding the books and TV shows and JO food range etc was enough of an income for him, he decided to take millions instead of using that to pay the suppliers. That’s grift to me.
 
Foxvint said:
Her pastas are always straight out a horror film. Watery bare arse bits and the sauce only ever looks like a bit of spit. All a consequence of wanting to honk about how it's only 2 shillings per portion when own brand pasta, tomato puree, a bit of cream and black pepper is also cheap. And edible. Everything she touches turns to slop.
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dearheart can you repeat the BIB in like 40ish pages? thankspaceyou! 🩷
 
mchops said:
Julie burchill is a bleeping divisive witch, I've never read anything by her since the London standard fucked her off. Don't let her tit get in your head.
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She’s right on this though. There were many articles by various outlets from all sides and allegiances when he took dividends etc after his restaurants went bust, including that small suppliers and councils weren’t paid. Whatever you think of her, she’s only repeating what has been widely reported and never disputed by JO.
 
AlwightDallin said:
Sight me rail but I’ve not been well (ouchy spine) & my doctor has doubled my dose of tramadol. 8 a day at 75mg ninnies, the first two I took had me slurring my words and I had to go to bed for an hour. I couldn’t face another two so I took one. Again I felt so sick mr A had to make me a sandwich to soak it up a bit and a strong coffee with sugar. I couldn’t face another, I actually opted for the excruciating back pain over it.

Husband said ‘how many did that nutter grifter woman you follow say she took a day’ and I did my first genuine lol in days as I replied 40, with a bottle and a half of whisky.

He also laughed and reminded me how strongly the doctor had advised me not to drink on my 8. The woman is indeed, to quote mr A, a nutter grifter.
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I got prescribed Tramadol years ago for a bad back injury and the first time I took one of them my OH at the time had to stop the car on the way to my hospital appointment so I could vomit… 40 a day makes me feel queasy just thinking about it
 
CabalofBolorneaise said:
She’s right on this though. There were many articles by various outlets from all sides and allegiances when he took dividends etc after his restaurants went bust, including that small suppliers and councils weren’t paid. Whatever you think of her, she’s only repeating what has been widely reported and never disputed by JO.
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Just repeating something being my issue. People know Jamie is in it for Jamie.
Burchill is just littlejohn et al, spouting bile and hate.
Jack's a bigger wanker than both because she lies to make up for her lack of intelligence or talent and pleads poverty. Online begging , meh
 
That nasty account has been zapped so whoever said agent Ade would tell her to knock it the duck off or that she'd wake up and go shiiiit (after the account had the audacity to say her detractors were on the sauce all night, I'm reading pots and kettles into that) please collect your prize from reception. You win a poster of Jack on the sun lounger and a scant teaspoon of the courgette gratin.
 
SleevelessSlopSlinger said:
I’m sure she’d even find a way to elevenerife that. Her data would be the most entried data ever to entry.
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No incompetent One And Done fucker is going anywhere near my data. It has to be absolutely accurate and anybody entering it needs to be capable of noticing errors or contradictory values.


Did I mention I've just got a promotion? It's what happens when you start with a crappy, but it'll pay the rent job and work your arse off for 4 years. I'm now the person signing off on things. I wouldn't trust her with the key to the teabag cupboard.
 
mchops said:
Julie burchill is a bleeping divisive witch, I've never read anything by her since the London standard fucked her off. Don't let her tit get in your head.
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I love JB, she can do no wrong in my eyes. And she's right JO should pay back those poorest most deprived boroughs in the country the money he's defaulted on, he can afford it.

Although quite why they need to consult with such people over how to feed hungry kids is beyond me, it's blindingly obvious what can fill up a child's belly healthily, cheaply, and nutritiously. Ditto guset also answering this question that was never asked. I come from a lower working class background and in the history of time has NO-ONE ever wondered... hmmm... what can we cook up for the kids that isn't going to cost too much. Although there is a different sort of slacker malnourishment going on in lazy uneducated homes where they're fobbing the kids off on cheap junk shite, I think this is probably rare and far between because even that junk is way more expensive than basic ingredients like rice, pulses, potatoes, fruit, veg.
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plentyofpepper said:
I got prescribed Tramadol years ago for a bad back injury and the first time I took one of them my OH at the time had to stop the car on the way to my hospital appointment so I could vomit… 40 a day makes me feel queasy just thinking about it
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Same here and I've never quite understood what tramadol's about except it's always made me feel itchy and scratchy and very mentally odd. Compared to other drugs that also actually work effectively (albeit they can be addicting), it's a strange medication that personally I wouldn't ever take again.
 
CabalofBolorneaise said:
She’s right on this though. There were many articles by various outlets from all sides and allegiances when he took dividends etc after his restaurants went bust, including that small suppliers and councils weren’t paid. Whatever you think of her, she’s only repeating what has been widely reported and never disputed by JO.
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I don't see anyone saying that what she's reporting is factually wrong. What I'm taking issue with is the idea that he's a grifter like guest. IMO while he may have questionable business practices, he has had more successes than failures, and he actually delivers product. And he has the qualifications and experience to do things like write cookbooks and present cookery TV shows.
 
hoopdedoo said:
I don't see anyone saying that what she's reporting is factually wrong. What I'm taking issue with is the idea that he's a grifter like guest. IMO while he may have questionable business practices, he has had more successes than failures, and he actually delivers product. And he has the qualifications and experience to do things like write cookbooks and present cookery TV shows.
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I quoted a post about not letting the author of the articles tit fill your head, which to me implied that the article was inaccurate hence saying that whatever you think of her it wasn’t something she’d pulled out of her arse. It was a direct reply to that one post, not you.

Fair enough he has redeeming features, but he’s still basically defrauded small businesses and councils that are struggling for money out of millions of pounds by making sure to line his own pockets before paying his debts. It’s not as if he would have needed the money precisely because he has so many other perfectly legitimate and I’m sure highly profit making ventures.

Grift may not be the right word for it but he’s taken far more money directly from families and councils with his questionable business decisions than I reckon Jack will ever see in her lifetime.
 
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