Jack Monroe #370 Fecks sake - take the day off Jack

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Mendacious Trumpet said:
I am honestly disappointed that of all the possible responses to the blog, she chose "snark at random small twitter accounts" once again.
Shouldn't be, but was hoping for something different given the magnitude of the problem.

Anyway...

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You sure can, squig. You sure can.
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Yeah squig, I can hear Jack's voice just from a photo too........

 
Just thinking about what @Lucy Aeroplane and the other Southend Frau shared on the last thread about Jack's rep in Southend. I don't have thier knowledge of course but I absolutely believe that JM is actually a pretty horrible person IRL and that the sympathy for her sometimes shared on these threads is misplaced - it's more a reflection of Fraus' good natures on here than it is of what JM deserves. It's clear to me that she thinks incredibly well of herself, has an outsized sense of entitlement and innate superiority, and sees no problems whatsoever with the false persona (WC nonbinary immigrant disabled lesbian autistic single mum devoted to charity - sorry but I think most of that is hugely exaggerated and some is outright false) she has created to bilk emotionally vulnerable people out of their money.

Some people are just not very nice people. We don't have to search for reasons like childhood trauma or NPD or BPD - some of those things may have some relevance but the fact is that there are just some people who are cynical users and not very nice. Twitter and the way its algos are set up enables those people. That's my explanation for Jack when it comes down to it.

I also re-watched a little bit of the DKL eps last night and whilst it's undoubtedly funny watching her make horse spunk lasagna etc, it's also, frnakly, insulting. That someone as inept and lazy as her gets a platform when there are so many marginalised people who have great ideas and skills and would LOVE a mainstream platform in the food industry but will never get it. The trade I'm in, it's not particularly exalted but it does take years of experience, on job learning, training etc to hone your skills and I just think how I'd feel if a complete incompetent, who was manipulative and grasping and selfish to boot, swanned in and took a position above me and proceeded to duck it up and expect the rest of us to sweep to her rescue. I'd be....OUTRAGED. So I can well imagine she has a toxic rep in the food industry and tbh she richly deserves it.

Sorry Fraus I'm feeling a bit serious this morning. I'm off to re-locate my funny bone....
 
Thanks to whoever linked to the DKL threads, I’m going to go through and relive the chaos and look over the funny tweets again.

I saw this post and it made me laugh:

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She could show people how to make their own pasta which is so good all it needs is a little olive oil and seasoning or butter and seasoning. You don't need fancy equipment other than a rolling pin or heavy bottle, a table/counter, a sharp knife to cut it into thin strips and a pan of boiling water. It is flour and egg. That's all. Maybe a few fresh tomatoes, deskinned and lightly cooked, can be added? Or a single courgette, cut into strips, lightly fried with oil, salt, and pepper, then stirred into the pasta. Or just store-bought with courgette/tomatoes? No need to gild the lily. If it is good enough for Italians.....It does not have to be muddled bowls of eight-ingredient pasta.

The same flour/egg mix can be used as noodles too. Or spaetzle. Or make gnocchi with leftover mashed potato. All of these are filling, delicious and can be added to anything. Every cuisine in the world has recipes for people whose income or resources are minimal. Follow their lead. Make flour tortillas; they can be used as a carb and only need a frying pan or, if you are really stretched, a large flat-based saucepan. They are flour, lard (or Trex), salt and water, but you can add other seasonings too. Make Jamie's yoghurt flatbreads. tear them up and add to soups, salads, bean and veg stews. grill them and serve with delicious and less expensive things on top like a scrambled or fried egg, some wilted spinach and a dash of inexpensive hot sauce (a bottle lasts a long time). I really believe that simple is best if you are cash-pressed. And that way you don't end up with lots of blackening ingredients in the fridge, which Jack seems to have a lot of.
 
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MaineCoonMama said:
Even with all the distractions and drama of the last 84 years few days my mind still drifts back to Space Squig. I trust he's not still trapped in that box he sent to Jack.

Also Jack posted a recipe that wasn't a recipe, just something she wrote when depressed. It had costings, measurements and ingredients but it was most definitely not a recipe, so take a day off, ok?
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She opened the box in the end and in reply to yet another tweet by him said she’d emailed pictures. Sadly he appeared not to have received anything and no one’s any the wiser still.

Makes you think.
 
Adayinthelife said:
So just because not everybody can afford a leg of lamb means nobody should be eating a leg of lamb? I can’t afford an Emin or 75 sideboards Borbora
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It's absolutely insane, do these people sit watching the news tutting away about governments stories "who can afford to live in central London, why are they showing Downing Street when a poor might see it?" In any case if these people think lamb is totally beyond the poor I'd suggest they spend some time around poor Muslim immigrants or more widely refugees and other communities with their own knowledge and tips for making a little go along way.
 
Moneypenny’sfreedom said:
Grunking so apologies if this has been asked but do we know what her meeting was about from her tweet? I wonder how many phone calls and emails from family, agent, publisher, therapist she has received. Oh to be a fly in her inbox, phone, car journey home.
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She was probably in Halifax at an AA meeting. She’ll have burnt her bridges in all the southern ones by now howling and clawing about how all the trolls are after her.
 
Adayinthelife said:
So just because not everybody can afford a leg of lamb means nobody should be eating a leg of lamb? I can’t afford an Emin or 75 sideboards Borbora
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We all must suffer out of solidarity with the poors, didn't you know? Peach and chickpea curry cooked in huge vats in church halls, slopped out into chipped bowls, then washed up in cold water. On your way out you get handed your foodbank parcel of cheap instant coffee and rich tea biscuits. Nobody is allowed to be able to afford nice things, or save up for them, in case a poor sees you.

Lowest common denominator, in which everyone is pushed down to the barest minimum, rather than raised up to a life with some comfort and dignity.
 
Rekyavikgirl said:
She could show people how to make their own pasta which is so good all it needs is a little olive oil and seasoning or butter and seasoning. You don't need fancy equipment other than a rolling pin or heavy bottle, a table/counter, a sharp knife to cut it into thin strips and a pan of boiling water. It is flour and egg. That's all. Maybe a few fresh tomatoes, deskinned and lightly cooked, can be added? Or a single courgette, cut into strips, lightly fried with oil, salt, and pepper, then stirred into the pasta. Or just store-bought with courgette/tomatoes? No need to gild the lily. If it is good enough for Italians.....It does not have to be muddled bowls of eight-ingredient pasta.

The same flour/egg mix can be used as noodles too. Or spaetzle. Or make gnocchi with leftover mashed potato. All of these are filling, delicious and can be added to anything. Every cuisine in the world has recipes for people whose income or resources are minimal. Follow their lead. Make flour tortillas; they can be used as a carb and only need a frying pan or, if you are really stretched, a large flat-based saucepan. They are flour, lard (or Trex), salt and water, but you can add other seasonings too. Make Jamie's yoghurt flatbreads.
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That would require actual cookery skillz
 
NeoCortex said:
Only time my family ever used stale bread was for bread pudding. (I eagerly await Jack making bread pudding with some artichoke bullshit now)
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I wish bread had time to go stale in this house. We get through a whole loaf of brown bread a day.

Her food is insulting. My mum often talks about somtimes not having much money left before pay day when we were kids so she had to use her immagination. We never got slop.

She critizes the posh chefs making legs of lamb etc yet she tries to turn sows ears into silk purses by trying to fancy up basic ingredients into something else. When it would be alot more cost effective to eat in its original form.

A bag of potatoes might cost a pound to start but you can make loads with it and it can be the filling base of many a dish.

The other funny thing she does is makes something like can tuna pasta dish, cheap enough and filling enough but she uses fancy expensive pasta rather than just oridnary pasta for like 40p.

From where i am sitting she is trying to say poor people can eat like the rich by mixing slop in minscule portions. When in reailty all she needs to do it put together basic components in the way they were intended bulking it out with sensible affordable carbs. A bag of pasta, rice and a bag of potatoes and buy whatever else to go around it.

Using my costings from the stuff i buy at tescos it would cost about £3 pounds for her £20 pound shop. The pasta i get is about 60p, the rice is about £1 and the potatoes are nornally allrounders that are also about a pound.
 
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tl;dr - people will still buy and eat lamb, recession or no. Buying hardback books of slop recipes OTOH? Not a given.

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