Jack Monroe #275 Like a “lefty” Katie Hopkins

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My team - born that way - has gone from having the owner we hate the most of everyone to have owners EVERYONE hates. It’s v conflicting. The team is more than that of course but it’s rubbish.

Every time I’ve gone to a match I’ve frozen so the shirt picture in March seems sus even with nice lighting. (I’ve done the town in snow in a strappy top and strappy heels when I was v young and foolish - sound financial reasons for not wearing a coat, less check in more drinks, but not for many many years).
 
In a somewhat merail a person that I am adjacent to in rl (long story) has been RT’ing Jack’s bullshit about donating all their media interview fees to charidee. It makes me snigger, as they are a lovely person really but very naive. I can’t say anything as I’m not that close to them anymore but they are v.definitely Jack’s prime audience
 
FlirtyThirty said:
Hard agree this is one 100% bullshit her being a Liverpool fan. She would have mentioned it at least in passing in the GQ article because she would know it’s the biggest rivalry in UK football (most of the time) Fellow life long Utd frau here, have wanted to marry Gary Neville since 2001. Perma laminated list.
saying that I knew a girl whose partner was so rabidly Utd they named their first kid with the surname of a very famous player of the time and their second after a manager and I randomly saw him on SM and he now SUPPORTS ARSENAL. WTF!!!
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I have family who have chosen Eric for their confirmation names and dogs, which, even though EC is on my laminate list, gives me cringe. Hard no on GN in my dreams/laminate list but I’ve met him a few times as I’m causally pally with Phils wife as we have mates who are connected through disabled child charity and I’m an embarrassing twit in his presence cos even though he got a face like a bag of spanners and tries his hardest to sound like a Gallagher, he’s a legend.
Eta soz meant to spoiler that me rail
 
Vanelope said:
My team - born that way - has gone from having the owner we hate the most of everyone to have owners EVERYONE hates. It’s v conflicting. The team is more than that of course but it’s rubbish.
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I have ~literally~ no idea about football but it is very hard not to get embroiled in any kind of discussion up here. I just say I support Norwich and people generally leave me alone.

On topic.

Has Jack seen Coda?
 
Onestorytoomany said:
Also some people support football because it's local to them or where they grew up. My in laws support their local team to where they lived from children to they have my partner etc. They do have a few lower division teams whom they support due to locality of where they live both in the past and present. In saying that they are not too bothered when they lose but will cheer them on from the side lines because they are their local team.

The big team they support will always be in their heart and they are very passionate about it. Despite them not always playing their best despite currently being a championship/ premiership team. They go up and down alot.

I think she is a bit like I am in the fact she supports whoever because she's not bothered. I don't care enough about football to have team but I will cheer one team on from the sidelines when I watch them. I wouldn't proclaim myself any sort of fan of them
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Why has tattle’s selective quote function gone mad??

Southend have their own team, we always check for match days before we do a day trip down cos parking is a ✨hellscape✨ if so. West Ham isn’t that far from her and it’s in the gentrified af Stratford now so she doesn’t even have to fraternise with the working class and/or poors to get there. Both are lovely days out for a football mad tween with a mum who doesn’t drive, but instead she reserves her trips to London to get her hair mowed by the London borough of Toni & Guy and hang out with Freedom pass eligible cokeheads down the Groucho.
 
Cantthinkofausername said:
Some people do support more than one team, for whatever reason.
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It’s very unusual though, especially when they can both play in the same league (obvs QPR will be hoping to get back to the Premiership at some point).

In Scotland, fans tend to have a team they support and an “English team”. I don’t know of anyone personally who supports two English teams unless they are leagues apart with no chance of playing each other bar cup games. But this is Jack and she literally can’t lie so she must have a plan for if/when QPR get back into the Premiership.

Appropriating and adapting the personality of partners so there can be nothing they can do by themselves, that’s more common I would think.
 
LennyBriscoe said:
In Scotland, fans tend to have a team they support and an “English team”.
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True, that can be a common reason here to have 2 teams. But not often without controversy, I know a lot of folk turn their nose up at it! And I know a much smaller pool that only have an EPL team and no Scottish team. I admittedly raise my old independence eyebrow at that haha, but I also assume it’s something to do with their childhood or whatever and idgaf.

Anyway this is so standard Jack, all she had to say in response was “SB is a huge fan, it’s his birthday! I’m so excited to be here, COYR” or whatever they shout at the red players down there.
 
Five hundred dogs said:
Interesting. Again this comes back to the whole 11 plus and grammar schools not being standard across England so what I’m know is based on Kent alone. Here you can do in year admission, but it’s really for people who have moved from out of area and the child has to be assessed by the school. I’m pretty sure if a child doesn’t pass the 11 plus they can’t retry in a later year to get into a grammar school. There’s either an interesting story there or the friend was wrong.
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I mentioned this when it cropped up before, but in the grammar school I went to, they did a year 9 intake. It was informally known as the 13+. So that would fit with what the school poster said, if her school did that too. I know that not all grammar schools did, but some certainly.
 
Nottonightbabe said:
I mentioned this when it cropped up before, but in the grammar school I went to, they did a year 9 intake. It was informally known as the 13+. So that would fit with what the school poster said, if her school did that too. I know that not all grammar schools did, but some certainly.
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That sounds like a very likely scenario, although of course that would mean she’s lying about passing her 11 plus.
 
Griftymcgriftface said:
Has Jack decided whether to support team Rock or team Smith yet? That’s the burning question this morning.
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I'm sure we'll get her hot take in about 6 months.

I spotted Jimmy Nail in the wild this morning in a music video (Travelling Wilburys) my husband was watching. He and his pals look like they could be heavies for HMRC.
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Five hundred dogs said:
Interesting. Again this comes back to the whole 11 plus and grammar schools not being standard across England so what I’m know is based on Kent alone. Here you can do in year admission, but it’s really for people who have moved from out of area and the child has to be assessed by the school. I’m pretty sure if a child doesn’t pass the 11 plus they can’t retry in a later year to get into a grammar school. There’s either an interesting story there or the friend was wrong.
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One thing I know about the Southend grammar schools system is, although they cream off the highest achieving kids across south Essex, they have to fulfil a quota of Southend kids.

Soooo, arguably, you can get into Southend/Westcliff grammar schools with a slightly lower 11+ score if you’re local.
 
maytoseptember said:
One thing I know about the Southend grammar schools system is, although they cream off the highest achieving kids across south Essex, they have to fulfil a quota of Southend kids.

Soooo, arguably, you can get into Southend/Westcliff grammar schools with a slightly lower 11+ score if you’re local.
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Yeah, the Kent super selectives work like that too. It’s so insanely archaic and complicated, I was trying to explain the whole thing to a friend from outside the UK a while ago, and she was just 😲 at it all.
 
maytoseptember said:
One thing I know about the Southend grammar schools system is, although they cream off the highest achieving kids across south Essex, they have to fulfil a quota of Southend kids.

Soooo, arguably, you can get into Southend/Westcliff grammar schools with a slightly lower 11+ score if you’re local.
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I’m very proud that I got into Westcliff grammar without doing the 11 plus !! It was a different time back then !! We moved close by and they reviewed all my books and work from other comprehensive school and interviewed me and let me in !!
 
Dogmuck said:
Not really and certainly not people who proclaim to be lifelong fans and almost certainly not teams in the same division. I quite happily will watch (on tv) and support beautiful football, even if it’s City or Liverpool playing but I wouldn’t go and watch them at their ground unless I was going to watch my team against them. I certainly wouldn’t become a season ticket holder and definitely wouldn’t change my team because my latest squeeze supported them. (Reader I dated City/Liverpool/Crystal Palace etc etc fans - and went out with a Blackburn player🔺, never once did I stop supporting Man Utd) I will go and watch and support FC United of Manchester (because breakaway club from United), Shrewsbury, Rotherham, Oldham, Bury etc teams in lower divisions who family and friends support/play for, because I love football, it’s a fun day out and it’s really nice to get back to old school/grassroots football, be able to stand rather than sit, hear real fans singing often hilarious songs and get away from the corporate prawn sandwich brigade of OT. I know plenty of folk who like and respect other teams, because of the style of play, a player, the manager (Pep 😍) and I know plenty who are mildly forced to attend matches of other teams because their other half is a massive fan and their kids now follow that team, but I don’t know anyone who actually actively supports more than one team because that’s just not how it works when you’re a “lifelong fan” clue is in the lifelong fan bit.
She’s never mentioned her passion for LFC once, they’ve had some massive achievements in the last few years when we’ve been collecting her receipts and there’s not even an emoji 🏆❤ nod to her soccer mom passion. It’s her usual MO, see veganism, gender, caring for animals, politics…just another performative stunt she’s elbowing her way into to get some traffic on twitter, embarrassing.
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Hard agree.
My local team is non-league, destined for better things one day. I am a season ticket holder, we never miss a game at home and go to the majority of away games. I watch Liverpool because it was my dads passion, it is my brothers passion & my husband also supports them. I will go and watch any non league or grassroots game close by if I am at a loose end because football is my main hobby and what I love. My first husband supported Wolves, so we went to watch them. I never claimed to support them, never had any of their merchandise.
Football is in the blood, it is not about what your latest shagpiece is in to.
 
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