Jack Monroe #22 The Condiments Thread. Jack's in a pickle over mayonnaise.

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Flumps said:
I think more people get nervous when it's directly linked, mostly because it makes it much easier for anyone who's discussed to make the claim of 'harrassment' and a 'gathering of bullies'. I think the problem is that you are, I believe, acting in good faith, that doesn't mean that your actions will necessarily be interpreted that way the person being discussed.

I've stayed away from this, before now, because I can see both sides, though I did mention it in relation to someone else way way back. I've just checked the rulebook <thumbs pages, looks over glasses> and it says:

Keep it on tattle, and don't encourage any behaviour that could be seen as harassment.

I think the discussion is coming in because some people (and I probably, when I'm not getting splinters in my arse, am one) take that first bit as meaning that you don't engage with whoever you're talking about AND link it to/on Tattle, because it could then be seen as straying towards the 2nd part of that sentence. I, personally, choose not to engage with JM at all, and if I did I wouldn't say it was me here, because that blurs the line between 'water cooler chat' if you like and joining the two together.

HOWEVER (ow, my poor bum), I can see that it can be read as criticism is reserved for here and engaging in non-confrontational/non-harrassy ways would be absolutely fine. I can see why you'd think that, and we all get to make our choices.

I like to keep things simple, for myself, so I keep my social media interaction with JM to watching through my fingers and making mildly horrified faces at my screen.
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Understood, but how is what I am doing different to people talking to her on Twitter and then talking about it on here? They seem to be lauded. I think what I'm doing is even less 'harmful as I'm just doing a short bit i've been invited to do, not sending veiled or otherwise messages.

Anyway, I'd rather be here having a constructive conversation than on Mumsnet where I feel the need to shower every time I log out.
 
Readingismyhobby said:
Dr Rupi’s book is 99p on Amazon (Kindle). It’s also on Apple, but I don’t know the price
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Bought. Happy to support the great cooks I have come to know through their work with Jack.

Yes your Honour I can provide a receipt as I genuinely think he is great and I am also looking forward to Chetna’s book. Yes your Honour I am aware that it has been suggested that we harass her ‘colleagues’ but if harassment means buying their products...I’m guilty!
 
I'm not vegan or vegetarian, so I throw those fancy little gel pots of meat stock into all my gravy with wild abandon. However, my mum always used to put a big slug of mushroom ketchup into all her gravy, which is a pretty good source of umami.

And Maggi liquid seasoning... that always used to live in the gravy cupboard

asiangroceryuk.com

Maggi Liquid Seasoning Sauce (Arome) 960g

Maggi liquid seasoning instantly improve the flavour of soups, sauces, meat and vegetable dishes. ... Ingredients: water, salt, flavourings, flavour enhancer (msg, sodium 5'-ribonnucleotides), spirit vinegar, extract of lovage, glucose, yeast extract, flavouring.
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MarthaFarkus said:
I’m very much the lurker on JMs threads but boy she really chaps my ass. I followed her a while ago but unfollowed as her erraticness(!) made me twitchy. I have to say, I frequent a lot of threads on Tattle (almost always just reading) but this one has to be the most unique and full of the most supportive people I’ve seen on an internet forum. Jack really is reaching if she thinks this is bad, maybe if she stopped contradicting herself, blatantly lying and called herself out every once in a while there would be no need for this thread 🤷🏻‍♀️
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Welcome. Glad you like it here. Also, farking love your name! I use your name a lot for insults (pronounced that way also) 😂
 
Nonnymouse said:
Understood, but how is what I am doing different to people talking to her on Twitter and then talking about it on here? They seem to be lauded. I think what I'm doing is even less 'harmful as I'm just doing a short bit i've been invited to do, not sending veiled or otherwise messages.

Anyway, I'd rather be here having a constructive conversation than on Mumsnet where I feel the need to shower every time I log out.
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Ah, well opinions are like...... ahem. What I mean is, I can only answer from my point of view, it's obvs not the view of everyone here. When I briefly raised this (ages ago tbf), it was because someone had contacted her on Twitter and the link with here was obvious. I wasn't entirely comfortable with it, and I said so. I think I have since lauded a couple of people who had talked to her on Twitter, been told off/blocked and then subsequently found their way here, so I guess maybe that's where I draw the line. I probably have liked some posts that have referred to something mentioned on Twitter, by someone here, and that is, undoubtedly, hypocritical of me, but um, my amusement threshold and my moral threshold probably don't align as well as I'd like.

I don't mean this to sound like I'm getting at you, at all, by the way. I think it's admirable to be so transparent, and I'm only giving you my personal opinion in the above paragraph. It's absolutely not me saying 'I am right and you are wrong', I think my main concern was in the first part of my last post, about what your intentions are vs how it *could* be spun, I agree that what you're doing isn't harmful at all.

Sorry. I don't mean to make it sound like I am getting at you. I'm not, at all. I can absolutely see your point of view. I am not trying to talk you in or out of doing anything, just adding my tuppenny ha'penny opinion.
 
TheDragonWithAFlagon said:
If so, I'd do the standard vegan answer for anything (let's face it, it works for most foods, vegan or not) - either curry it or dunk it in batter and stick it in hot fat until crispy and golden --then serve with a dipping sauce such as mayonnaise--
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Going to slightly develop upon this; if I were in the position of having to big up mayonnaise, I'd say;

Drain blossoms and slice into finger size pieces. Pat dry with some kitchen paper.

Put equal parts plain flour and corn or potato flour into a bowl. Add salt, pepper and the curry spices of your choice/some chilli flakes or powder, along with some baking powder/bicarb if you have it. Roughly mix with ice cold water, preferably fizzy - don't worry about mixing it to death, lumpy batter is absolutely fine, as the lumps will become crispy. Dunk the blossom pieces into the batter.

Drop them carefully into hot vegetable oil and let them sizzle away until they float up to the surface (like they're whales coming up for air), take out and drain on a baking rack over three layers of kitchen roll.


Serve with mayonnaise that has had a little cumin and turmeric, along with chopped coriander leaves, stirred through for a dip.


So Curry Blossom Tempura.

If the batter won't stick or you want thicker batter, add some aqua faba from a tin of beans you were intending to rinse and use that as a substitute for egg white (which would also work in the original recipe) and whilst they are floating at the tp, drizzle more batter on using a chopstick to get more crispy bits.
 
MarthaFarkus said:
I’m very much the lurker on JMs threads but boy she really chaps my ass.
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another great expression! 🤣🤣

Flumps said:
I'm not vegan or vegetarian, so I throw those fancy little gel pots of meat stock into all my gravy with wild abandon. However, my mum always used to put a big slug of mushroom ketchup into all her gravy, which is a pretty good source of umami.

And Maggi liquid seasoning... that always used to live in the gravy cupboard

asiangroceryuk.com

Maggi Liquid Seasoning Sauce (Arome) 960g

Maggi liquid seasoning instantly improve the flavour of soups, sauces, meat and vegetable dishes. ... Ingredients: water, salt, flavourings, flavour enhancer (msg, sodium 5'-ribonnucleotides), spirit vinegar, extract of lovage, glucose, yeast extract, flavouring.
asiangroceryuk.com asiangroceryuk.com
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Like you i’m a skim first reader, especially with how fast these threads go, and I read that as adding a big slug! 😮
 
Flumps said:
Ah, well opinions are like...... ahem. What I mean is, I can only answer from my point of view, it's obvs not the view of everyone here. When I briefly raised this (ages ago tbf), it was because someone had contacted her on Twitter and the link with here was obvious. I wasn't entirely comfortable with it, and I said so. I think I have since lauded a couple of people who had talked to her on Twitter, been told off/blocked and then subsequently found their way here, so I guess maybe that's where I draw the line. I probably have liked some posts that have referred to something mentioned on Twitter, by someone here, and that is, undoubtedly, hypocritical of me, but um, my amusement threshold and my moral threshold probably don't align as well as I'd like.

I don't mean this to sound like I'm getting at you, at all, by the way. I think it's admirable to be so transparent, and I'm only giving you my personal opinion in the above paragraph. It's absolutely not me saying 'I am right and you are wrong', I think my main concern was in the first part of my last post, about what your intentions are vs how it *could* be spun, I agree that what you're doing isn't harmful at all.

Sorry. I don't mean to make it sound like I am getting at you. I'm not, at all. I can absolutely see your point of view. I am not trying to talk you in or out of doing anything, just adding my tuppenny ha'penny opinion.
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I know x

It's 25 mins until the show, I'm certainly not backing out now, at such short notice, that would just be rude ;)
 
lipsticktaser said:
Thought it was a cough??? View attachment 145197 q
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Bollocks does she have “severe hay fever”. If she did, she would have been sneezing her way through that shed show (and during her long periods in the garden), and we saw no sign of that.
I have moderate hay fever and I’ve still been sneezing and eyes streaming for the last few weeks.
Also, why is her comment relevant at all - unless Alok Sharma is on the shortlist to co-present DKL #2.
 
Tabitha D said:
Bollocks does she have “severe hay fever”. If she did, she would have been sneezing her way through that shed show (and during her long periods in the garden), and we saw no sign of that.
I have moderate hay fever and I’ve still been sneezing and eyes streaming for the last few weeks.
Also, why is her comment relevant at all - unless Alok Sharma is on the shortlist to co-present DKL #2.
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Because her illness always has to be worse than anyone else’s illness. How can they have the media attention? Jack wants it as she thinks she deserves it for....doing absolutely nothing.
 
Thank you to all the gravy experts ❤ - really appreciated and bookmarked to try out later ! Good old Maggi Sauce - they have a huge store in Frankfurt that just sells that sauce.
 

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