Israeli - Palestinian Conflict #21

[Dogmuck]

Is calling me Oscar Wilde in a keffiyeh supposed to be an insult? I’ll take that, while I’m a married woman with 3 grownups, I’d quite like to be a legend who wrote amazing novels & plays. I guess because he’s gay you’re not so keen right? You’re ticking all the boxes Jen, you’ll get your full fascist wings soon.

 

[Jen667]

Is calling me Oscar Wilde in a keffiyeh supposed to be an insult? I’ll take that, while I’m a married woman with 3 grownups, I’d quite like to be a legend who wrote amazing novels & plays. I guess because he’s gay you’re not so keen right? You’re ticking all the boxes Jen, you’ll get your full fascist wings soon.

It was irony. Amusing that you took it seriously though, bless your heart. Why would I not like a gay writer?

 

[Charlotte1993]

So after 29 killed in the attacks on Kamal Adwan hospital, there are now attacks on the Indonesian hospital and ambulances being reported.

These are war crimes, simple as that. Repeated, egregious, and going unpunished.

Let’s not forget the international aid workers targeted again no outrage this time Israeli war crimes are becoming normalised.
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Is calling me Oscar Wilde in a keffiyeh supposed to be an insult? I’ll take that, while I’m a married woman with 3 grownups, I’d quite like to be a legend who wrote amazing novels & plays. I guess because he’s gay you’re not so keen right? You’re ticking all the boxes Jen, you’ll get your full fascist wings soon.

I’d take Oscar over Bill I absolutely would not touch that man

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

 

[Dogmuck]

It was irony. Amusing that you took it seriously though, bless your heart. Why would I not like a gay writer?

While we are back on questions. Seeing as you so thoroughly answered the genocide question maybe you’d like to answer this one. Is Israel an occupier?

 

[Lars Guinard]

Oh little town of Bethlehem...

Israeli army raids youth and children's centre near Bethlehem | ICN

At dawn, yesterday morning, Israeli Occupation Forces raided the Youth Centre in Aida Refugee Camp near Bethlehem.The executive director Anas Abu Srour, writes: "Soldiers broke through the doors, ransacked the offices, and took documents and hard drives. Our security cameras caug...

www.indcatholicnews.com

How horrifying and saddening that this is happening at a children's centre! Who leaves menacing posters like this about children being targeted?!

This is one example of many

So after 29 killed in the attacks on Kamal Adwan hospital, there are now attacks on the Indonesian hospital and ambulances being reported.

These are war crimes, simple as that. Repeated, egregious, and going unpunished.

I have just seen images of those killed, ready for burial-I know this is a daily occurrence but I can't get over what the medical staff, patients and families have been through and are going through.

 

[Lammington]

https://theintercept.com/2024/12/06/israel-palestine-family-white-house/

A concerted effort to keep civilians safe, naturally.

 

[BelleG2020]

I can’t help but conclude that Jen, though not a troll in the good old fashioned sense of the word, is still, in effect, a troll of sorts.
Like a stubborn child, caught in a lie who digs their heels in deeper and deeper.
Only purpose here is to gain attention which, in one way or another, she is getting. I don’t know Jen IRL (as far as I know!) And for that, I’m grateful.

To all of the rest of you: thanks guys. As mentioned previously, I frequently read the latest on this thread, the links shared, though post infrequently and as such, I really do, with heart & soul, thank you for your efforts and for reminding me that I’m not alone in how I feel & think.

 

[Dooley Doo]

Oh little town of Bethlehem...

Israeli army raids youth and children's centre near Bethlehem | ICN

At dawn, yesterday morning, Israeli Occupation Forces raided the Youth Centre in Aida Refugee Camp near Bethlehem.The executive director Anas Abu Srour, writes: "Soldiers broke through the doors, ransacked the offices, and took documents and hard drives. Our security cameras caug...

www.indcatholicnews.com

How horrifying and saddening that this is happening at a children's centre! Who leaves menacing posters like this about children being targeted?!

This is one example of many

I have just seen images of those killed, ready for burial-I know this is a daily occurrence but I can't get over what the medical staff, patients and families have been through and are going through.

Are they taking medical records so they can get the snipers/drones ready for any children that have the wrong bloodlines (surnames), or are they destroying any evidence of lineage to the land.

 

[Lars Guinard]

Are they taking medical records so they can get the snipers/drones ready for any children that have the wrong bloodlines (surnames), or are they destroying any evidence of lineage to the land.

The International Order Is Failing to Protect Palestinian Cultural Heritage

As Israeli forces destroy Gaza's sites and monuments, an archaeologist explains how international organizations should intervene—but have not.

www.sapiens.org

Since last year, Israel has openly destroyed the “Central Archives” in Gaza, which contained thousands of historical documents dating more than 150 years.
Targeting and destroying the Central Archives poses a great danger to the city, as it contains thousands of historically valuable documents for the community.

Not only are the children targeted, via medical records, to erase bloodlines and lineage to land, as you point out...historical buildings, architecture and artefacts are all being targeted and destroyed-once all and any trace of Palestine is erased and settlements are quickly erected-while the blood of Palestinians is still not dry, then the 'global community' will broadcast the faux shock and offer platitudes and sad faces! ' aah, if only we knew that there was a destruction and erasure of an entire people going on, too late now but er...maybe next time'

 

[Charlotte1993]

Rhetorical questions are a tool used by passive aggressive people to pick holes in your ideas and actions. The aim is to undermine and belittle you so that you will overreact and appear to be unreasonable. if you do give them the reaction they are looking for, you can be sure that they will be ready to act all innocent and offended. You will be made to look like the bad guy. However, once you are aware of what they are up to, you can stop their behaviour Just remember that there is little more infuriating for a passive aggressive person than someone who refuses to fall for their silly games. So, recognise the confrontational questions and; don’t bite.
Their agenda in this instance is to derail the thread and to fill it with rhetorical questions and nonsense so that the thread isn’t full of the war crimes that they are in denial of.

 

[Charlotte1993]

Has anyone else noticed a pattern with the attacks on Gaza every day I’m seeing 48 killed today 50 killed today but it’s been like this for weeks.
I feel like the Israelis have the mindset of slow and steady wins the race and the Americans can justify smaller numbers as self defence plus it doesn’t elicit such a huge response from the public because they’ve been conditioned to seeing larger casualty figures so it’s like oh well they’re slowing down when they’re really not.

Israeli attacks cut the power and wound children at key north Gaza hospital

Health Ministry and rights groups report ‘atrocities’ as Israeli assault on the Kamal Adwan Hospital in continues.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Lars Guinard]

Has anyone else noticed a pattern with the attacks on Gaza every day I’m seeing 48 killed today 50 killed today but it’s been like this for weeks.
I feel like the Israelis have the mindset of slow and steady wins the race and the Americans can justify smaller numbers as self defence plus it doesn’t elicit such a huge response from the public because they’ve been conditioned to seeing larger casualty figures so it’s like oh well they’re slowing down when they’re really not.

Israeli attacks cut the power and wound children at key north Gaza hospital

Health Ministry and rights groups report ‘atrocities’ as Israeli assault on the Kamal Adwan Hospital in continues.

www.aljazeera.com

So true, along with where the attacks are happening. We can see the playbook in action. Clear northern Gaza, while the focus is on Gaza/Kevin Spacey popping up on the border...the West Bank is 'potentially' being renamed. Always smoke and mirrors and distraction tactics.
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Interestingly, when looking at the etymology of genocide and holocaust...both terms can be applied to the crimes in Gaza.

 

[Charlotte1993]

So true, along with where the attacks are happening. We can see the playbook in action. Clear northern Gaza, while the focus is on Gaza/Kevin Spacey popping up on the border...the West Bank is 'potentially' being renamed. Always smoke and mirrors and distraction tactics.
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Interestingly, when looking at the etymology of genocide and holocaust...both terms can be applied to the crimes in Gaza.

Absolutely and the manipulative tactics you just described show a clear pattern of intent yet the western leaders/press choose to ignore it.
I’m sure there will be a lot of tea spilled down the line because the truth will come out at some point even it’s from a leak.

 

[Lars Guinard]

Absolutely and the manipulative tactics you just described show a clear pattern of intent yet the western leaders/press choose to ignore it.
I’m sure there will be a lot of tea spilled down the line because the truth will come out at some point even it’s from a leak.

I am old enough to remember 'weapons of mass deception'...the truth always comes out, you are right!

From Kid Starver to all others who failed to speak out, we will get
an ' I'm Blairy sorry' and they will move on to their peerage and role as Ambassadors for Peace in the Middle East!

 

[Charlotte1993]

I am old enough to remember 'weapons of mass deception'...the truth always comes out, you are right!

From Kid Starver to all others who failed to speak out, we will get
an ' I'm Blairy sorry' and they will move on to their peerage and role as Ambassadors for Peace in the Middle East!

Giving Blair that role was a crime against humanity I have heard of having a brass neck but the necks or the politicians in charge atm must be made made of titanium.
The biggest piss take (for me) is the leaders and the way they have been begging Israel to spare the civilian population of Gaza and constant pleading for more aid to be allowed in I mean really they’re asking the murderer to help the victim it’s insanity if the murderer had a slither of humanity then they wouldn’t be killing anyone period.

 

[Dogmuck]

antisemite

 

[Jen667]

I know she's a big favourite with you guys.

 

[Lars Guinard]

I know she's a big favourite with you guys.

Stick to what you do best Jen, otherwise it'll only end up with you embarrassing yourself again!


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Kamal Adwan hospital without power as Israeli strikes cause the generators to set on fire! Actual fire, causing actual damage to a hospital that had bodies lined up in the street outside yesterday!
Children amongst those wounded in what is left of the hospital.

Why is this shell of a hospital still being attacked? One of a few hospitals still (barely) functioning!

Israeli attacks cut the power and wound children at key north Gaza hospital

Health Ministry and rights groups report ‘atrocities’ as Israeli assault on the Kamal Adwan Hospital in continues.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Ennui]

Oh yes, I was a paid shill wasn't I?

Clinton makes excellent points

A proven liar and close personal friend of Epstein (a known Mossad spy and blackmailer) quoted by a man who cheered on the bombing of Gaza and admitted he would take up arms against the UK if it ever went to war with Israel. Well I'm totally convinced now. All the kids shot in the head and burned alive are worth it I guess.