Israeli - Palestinian Conflict #21

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What will be interesting to me as far as the US is if the Democrats, particularly those in leadership positions, start speaking up in opposition once Trump takes office. Because while yes, any voice speaking out is better than being silent, it's telling if you only speak out once you are removed from the responsibility of and ability to act on your statements.
 
Dogmuck said:
I bet the Israelis are Zionists are so proud 🤗 Trumps just set a ticking time bomb on those hostages heads. No chance of them being released now. God bless America huh 🤢


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But more proud of their lovely soldiers 🤗 so moral

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Donald Trump is full of it what can he do ? What is worse than Genocide is he gonna bomb what’s he gonna bomb the buildings are all gone and Hamas would “neutralise” the hostages and he would be an epic fail and a loser he’s such a twit sorry but he is.
 
I’ve reread Dogmuck’s post and Trump didn’t refer to Gaza he wrote the Middle East and and he can’t do anything significant to Hamas because if his aim is getting the hostages back they hold the ace.
Was this tweet a message to Iran ?
I read a piece in Haaretz saying that Iran is going to get a nuclear weapon in double quick time because of the picks trump has made for his Government.
Is Trump going to go ham on Iran after he promised that he wouldn’t drag America into another war ?
How could Trump attack Iran without causing major issues to the world economy?
 
Veronicaaa said:
Will liberals / moderates / centrists / democrats or whatever they call themselves get more vocal now that it's all more overtly evil? Or will they continue to be like

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When it comes to Israel and the Middle East, as we’ve seen very clearly this last 14 months, but has been policy for decades, the US, wether blue or red, will openly support Israel no matter what and do everything in their power to destabilise all Arab countries. The Middle East is in ruins because of the decades of this continuing policy. They arm, fund and support coups to overthrow leaders that don't bend the knee to Israel/US ideals, installing dictators and tyrants, causing civil wars which lead to death, destruction and devastation for generations of Arabs. They then point to these places saying look, these uncivilised Arabs/muslim nations they’re extremist who don’t hold Western values. Then when we end up with refugees from these war torn countries on our shores everyone is outraged at high immigration. Trump will likely continue this cycle but the Americans will have their own tit to deal with when it comes to him so they will be even less bothered than they currently are about the Middle East
 
Two clips regarding artists involvement or lack therefore in supporting Palestine. First up is the wonderful Juliet Stevenson from this past weekend. She calls out the lack of support the arts community is giving Gaza.



Roger Waters is with Abby Martin on the Empire Files. He goes off on Radiohead and it is delicious.
 
Charlotte1993 said:
I’ve reread Dogmuck’s post and Trump didn’t refer to Gaza he wrote the Middle East and and he can’t do anything significant to Hamas because if his aim is getting the hostages back they hold the ace.
Was this tweet a message to Iran ?
I read a piece in Haaretz saying that Iran is going to get a nuclear weapon in double quick time because of the picks trump has made for his Government.
Is Trump going to go ham on Iran after he promised that he wouldn’t drag America into another war ?
How could Trump attack Iran without causing major issues to the world economy?
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The tweet was in relation to the hostages so a nod to their “unwavering” support for Israel whilst simultaneously describing the whole of the Middle East as the bad guys to ensure their perpetual war cycle has the full support of the American people.

Just to put this into some kind of perspective about the American understanding and education of Palestine/Middle Eastern issues, I had a little “discussion” with my American family (loosely my family, my sister in laws, brother in law) pre election, he’s a smart guy, college educated, Catholic, in his 50s who was supporting Harris. We discussed much about Roe v Wade and I schooled him on the fact that should have been codified under Obama (which probably pissed him off) but we got on to Gaza and his comment shook me, he said this

Americans have been on the side of Israel since WWII. No Presidential contender can come out on the Palestinian side without looking anti-Israel and expect to win. They look at Palestinians as co-conspirators of war ever since Israel was reformed. There would be peace in the Middle East tomorrow if Hamas would turn in their weapons, but that will never happen because they think the infidels hold Jerusalem and should be eradicated. Then they hide behind mothers and children like cowards.

I was like wow, you really need to read some books on the region, even just look at a map, so for starters you think Israel was “reformed”, you do know that Hamas is only in Gaza a tiny strip of land in Palestine and “the Middle East” is made up of many countries? Not even mentioning the rest of his Zionist propaganda. This is a huge problem for the US, they are fed so much propaganda but they also see the Middle East as a monolith of evil, doesn’t matter if it’s Palestinian, Jordanian, Iranian, Iraqi, they are just all bad Muslim extremists. So when Trump says “Middle East” every country there is responsible for the hostages and therefore are fair game to get some US bombs dropped on them. It’s a really easy way to carry out their policies without any real concern from their citizens because West = good Middle East (Russia, China etc) = bad and they can continue to take tax dollars from their deluded citizens and bolster their industrial military complex to keep their billionaire donors rich.
 
Veronicaaa said:
Or light and darkness.
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Someone wrote it for him he can’t write in English.
Wouldn’t this count as more ammo for the ICJ because in the beginning they referred to Gazans as the people of darkness and this public post just shows that the original comment wasn’t a one off reactionary comment but it’s still part of the Governments thinking a year later.
 
I haven't had a chance to get on here lately, but it's shocking how out of control the zionist filth are, and what they think they can get away with:

Israeli's and Zionists indoctrinate their kids with hatred and encourage them to cheer on the genocide, whilst the IDF scum shoot multiple children point blank in the head and chest, not once, but twice (so these IDF cvnts can't deflect and explain away their actions by saying it was a mistake. No sniper makes a mistake twice like that).
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sickening,



They show themselves for the evil scum that they are; ironical that this is happening in the land where Jesus was born and it's nearly Christmas, whilst a lot of zionist Christians simp for them



 

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Jen667 said:
But a an actual journalist all the same, not someone in fancy dress.
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😂😂😂😂You say journalist I say check out his wiki, Zionist mouthpiece who’s a social media influencer…he’s actually a boy with an iPhone and a tripod but also to give him extra journalistic credibility he has a ring light 😂😂😂 he most certainly is someone wearing fancy dress 🤡

No allow me to bring his wiki to you (2 min read😜)- this is it 😬 as you can see his extensive journalism is covered under his “Career”, bylines all over the place, but Hamas probably deleted them all 😂😂😂



Hen Mazzig (Hebrew: חן מזיג) is an Israeli writer, speaker, and social media influencer. He is also a senior fellow at the Tel Aviv Institute.

Career
Mazzig served in the Israeli military facilitating humanitarian efforts to assist Palestinian civilians. After arriving in the United States, he worked for Hillel International and Stand With Us. He returned to Israel and started a social media company.[6]

Activism
Mazzig is a staunch defender of Israel within the context of the Israel-Hamas War. He emphasizes the importance of careful word choice and framing in addressing Israel's actions, but has not commented to any extent on the importance of careful military action to mitigate innocent civilian casualties. Mazzig is the co-founder of the Tel Aviv Institute, an organization established in 2019 aimed at influencing younger audiences who are skeptical of traditional news media coverage and receive information from social media influencers.[6]

In August 2020, Mazzig started a viral movement, #JewishPrivilege, with Jews telling personal stories of discrimination and abuse.[7] In November 2020, Mazzig criticized a student Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions resolution passed at San Francisco State University.[8] In December 2020, Mazzig spoke to the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies, commemorating the plight of 850,000 Jews were expelled from Arab lands to Israel after its creation.[9] He was a panelist, along with Arizona State Rep. Alma Hernandez, discussing antisemitism.[10]

In October 2022, Mazzig's first book, The Wrong Kind of Jew: A Mizrahi Manifesto, was published by Wicked Son Press.[11]

In April of 2024, Mazzig debated left-wing British commentator Owen Jones on Sky News regarding Israel's response to Hamas’ invasion of and attack on Israel on October 7.[12][13]

In the summer and fall of 2024, Mazzig supported Vice President Kamala Harris's views on Israel and the humanity of Palestinians.[6] His posts were shared by Pink, Amy Schumer, and Gal Gadot, and were turned into billboards in Times Square.[6]

CNN commentator Van Jonesdescribed Mazzig as "someone who respects opposing points of view".[6]
 
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