Hossam Shabat
Israeli - Palestinian Conflict #21
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Hossam Shabat
Lammington
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Given that there seems to be another round of trolling with a fixation on a single accusation without sources, let's look at the history of the apparent fake story circulated "at the weekend":
https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/530328.aspx published August 18 2024.
This article cites the Gaza Civil Defence, but there's no source and the updates I could find from GCD on that day had no reference.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024...l-use-against-the-al-mawasi-safe-zone-in-gaza published 12 September 2024, reference to bodies assumed to be vaporised due to intensity of a blast.
That actually pulls us back (due to the type of weapon referenced) to reporting in May 2024 such as this: https://thecradle.co/articles-id/24669
And that gets us to this Euro-Med report: https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6290
There's quite a bit of reporting in the interim that I won't go into, but can be found with 5-10 minutes of effort. But apparently we can happily sentence journalists to death without that effort.
https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/530328.aspx published August 18 2024.
This article cites the Gaza Civil Defence, but there's no source and the updates I could find from GCD on that day had no reference.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024...l-use-against-the-al-mawasi-safe-zone-in-gaza published 12 September 2024, reference to bodies assumed to be vaporised due to intensity of a blast.
That actually pulls us back (due to the type of weapon referenced) to reporting in May 2024 such as this: https://thecradle.co/articles-id/24669
And that gets us to this Euro-Med report: https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6290
There's quite a bit of reporting in the interim that I won't go into, but can be found with 5-10 minutes of effort. But apparently we can happily sentence journalists to death without that effort.
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IdeletedbutI'mbackagain
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They have turned Gaza into a testing site
Lars Guinard
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Why do you think he is a scammer?
A journalist who has been targeted for his reporting by Israel...obviously a scammer!
Yet, IDF soldiers who ripped down and tore pictures of Shirine Abu Akleh
,while raiding and closing down the Al Jazeera offices in Ramallah...most moral!
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Prove it isn't true, we only have your word for it.
Lammington
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I'll make no comment about truth of reports where requested investigations are still pending, but I do wonder at how one might convince themselves that it's a one-off claim from a single reporter when there is abundant reporting over at least 7 months that disproves that?
Troll on as wished, but cite sources at least.
Troll on as wished, but cite sources at least.
Veronicaaa
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What on earth are you talking about? You're the one who brought up whatever 'story' you're referring to, just as you're the one who brought up 'Mr FAFO' out of nowhere. You're the one introducing so-called 'fake' stories here, not us.
I don't dispute for a minute that IDF soldiers have done terrible things. But Shabat is not a journalist. As well as the laughable 'evaporating bodies' story he was the person behind the story about the supposed rape of pregnant women at the Shifa hospital. A report that even Al Jazeera had to backtrack on and admit was a fabrication.
Lars Guinard
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Given Israel's record on human rights violations and use of prohibited weapons, the scientific explanation and questioning by respected medical professionals, oh and journalists putting their integrity on the line...I wonder the same!
Charlotte1993
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Oh Jen Jen poor you like this is new the Russians have been using them in Ukraine since 2022 but in your delusional mind you believe that they’re imaginary
Don’t wear out that last brain cell lovely it’s been flashing low since you came here.
Russia has confirmed use of weapon capable of vaporizing human bodies in attack on Ukraine | FOX 5 New York
Russia reportedly admitted it has used a weapon in Ukraine capable of vaporizing human bodies
That can cause human bodies to vaporize.
The Pentagon has said that Russian mobile launchers for thermobaric weapons were spotted inside Ukraine, but couldn't confirm their use.
The UK MoD said its Russian counterpart said the TOS-1A weapon system had been deployed.
Lars Guinard
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A 10 year old shot in the chest outside the UN offices in Gaza.
Killed by Israeli soldiers, near a checkpoint.
Reported in UK publication.
There is a picture but I decided against posting.
Is this fake journalism @Jen667 ?
I don't want to post fake news by journalists that are not credible.
I know, it's war, it happens-what can you do, those Hamas voting and supporting 10 year old children are so careless in a war zone!
Killed by Israeli soldiers, near a checkpoint.
Reported in UK publication.
There is a picture but I decided against posting.
Is this fake journalism @Jen667 ?
I don't want to post fake news by journalists that are not credible.
I know, it's war, it happens-what can you do, those Hamas voting and supporting 10 year old children are so careless in a war zone!
Oh Jen Jen poor you like this is new the Russians have been using them in Ukraine since 2022 but in your delusional mind you believe that they’re imaginary
Don’t wear out that last brain cell lovely it’s been flashing low since you came here.
www.fox5ny.com
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That can cause human bodies to vaporize.
The Pentagon has said that Russian mobile launchers for thermobaric weapons were spotted inside Ukraine, but couldn't confirm their use.
The UK MoD said its Russian counterpart said the TOS-1A weapon system had been deployed.
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Even nuclear weapons don't cause human bodies to vaporise.
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I hadn't seen the story, I have now. I've never disputed that children are being killed. Not believing some stories doesn't mean I don't believe any story
Don’t wear out that last brain cell lovely it’s been flashing low since you came here.
Russia has confirmed use of weapon capable of vaporizing human bodies in attack on Ukraine | FOX 5 New York
Russia reportedly admitted it has used a weapon in Ukraine capable of vaporizing human bodies
That can cause human bodies to vaporize.
The Pentagon has said that Russian mobile launchers for thermobaric weapons were spotted inside Ukraine, but couldn't confirm their use.
The UK MoD said its Russian counterpart said the TOS-1A weapon system had been deployed.
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Even nuclear weapons don't cause human bodies to vaporise.
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I hadn't seen the story, I have now. I've never disputed that children are being killed. Not believing some stories doesn't mean I don't believe any story
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Dogmuck
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Ha ha ha I KNEW you would start trying to convince yourself that the 40 beheaded babies, babies cooked in ovens, systematic SA, a list of terrorists, a command and control centre 3 stories deep under a hospital, the killing of UN workers, Aid workers and WFK workers by accident etc etc might be true?
No evidence from Israel’s endless stream of IDF TikToks?
I accept the beheaded babies story isn't true, not that it diminishes the horror of 7/10. No idea what 'systematic SA' is and yes I do believe hamas operated from hospitals because there is evidence that they did. I do believe that some aid workers had links to hamas because there is evidence that they did. I also accept innocent people get killed in war zones.
Lars Guinard
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Oh Jen Jen poor you like this is new the Russians have been using them in Ukraine since 2022 but in your delusional mind you believe that they’re imaginary
Don’t wear out that last brain cell lovely it’s been flashing low since you came here.
QuoteRussia has confirmed use of weapon capable of vaporizing human bodies in attack on Ukraine | FOX 5 New York
Russia reportedly admitted it has used a weapon in Ukraine capable of vaporizing human bodies
That can cause human bodies to vaporize.
The Pentagon has said that Russian mobile launchers for thermobaric weapons were spotted inside Ukraine, but couldn't confirm their use.
The UK MoD said its Russian counterpart said the TOS-1A weapon system had been deployed.
Even nuclear weapons don't cause human bodies to vaporise.
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I hadn't seen the story, I have now. I've never disputed that children are being killed. Not believing some stories doesn't mean I don't believe any story
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It's essentially a giant fireball that causes lungs to explode! At the temperature and force of a thermobaric attack...what do you think will be left of a human body?
It's akin to spontaneous combustion!
Dooley Doo
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Oh Jen Jen poor you like this is new the Russians have been using them in Ukraine since 2022 but in your delusional mind you believe that they’re imaginary
Don’t wear out that last brain cell lovely it’s been flashing low since you came here.
QuoteRussia has confirmed use of weapon capable of vaporizing human bodies in attack on Ukraine | FOX 5 New York
Russia reportedly admitted it has used a weapon in Ukraine capable of vaporizing human bodies
That can cause human bodies to vaporize.
The Pentagon has said that Russian mobile launchers for thermobaric weapons were spotted inside Ukraine, but couldn't confirm their use.
The UK MoD said its Russian counterpart said the TOS-1A weapon system had been deployed.
I remember a photo of a Ukrainian little girl about 5 years old, I can't remember if her little brother was with her. She looked like she was asleep but a sonic type bomb had been dropped by Russia. I think it liquefies organs.
It definitely looks like there is an equal opportunity arms dealer/supplier.
I have ignore on but I still see the alert emojis.
But you saw a picture of her. She hadn't disappeared without trace as though she never existed.
IdeletedbutI'mbackagain
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"That can cause human bodies to vaporize."
Dogmuck
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Nice cherry picking again Jen!
Babies cooked in ovens? The list? The command and control centre (with graphics)? The list of Hamas on 7/10 which was a calendar? .Systematic (SA) sexual assault on 7/10.
There’s not evidence of Hamas operating from hospitals in the same way there is no evidence of beheaded babies, babies cooked in ovens, babies tied together tortured and then executed and the other stuff mentioned. The same can be said for your belief that some aid workers had links to Hamas. All of these things are
It’s incredible that you have these strong beliefs and that you don’t believe these lies should diminish what happened on 7/10 but have the gaul to say everything we post is a fake or a lie and that innocent people get killed in war like what happened on 7/10 can justify war crimes, ethnics cleansing and genocide with at least 40 times more people murdered over 14 months.
Charlotte1993
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This article is talking about Russia using these weapons from what the press is saying the Russian version can emit a heat of up to 3000 degrees so yeh clearly there wouldn’t be any body left if a person was anywhere near.
Russia's horror drones armed with 90kg bombs that can 'vaporise' human bodies
The bombs can generate temperatures up to 3,000 degrees Celsius and can quite literally "vaporise human bodies".
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