We saw videos of people being slaughtered at a music festival, we saw footage of people being slaughtered in a kibbutz, we saw burnt bodies, women's stripped, dead bodies being paraded through the streets as the local savages cheered and tried to abuse their corpses. We've seen footage of hostages begging for their lives.
Israeli - Palestinian Conflict #21
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Charlotte1993
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Wait what the Israeli government lies surely notDid anyone see the 40 beheaded babies, the children tied together tortured and then massacred, the babies put in ovens, did anyone see the systematic SA on 7/10 or was it just hearsay? Some of them were, frankly,absolute bsludicrous. Babies ripped from pregnant women’s stomachs, breasts cut off and used as footballs, all these accounts came from Israelis with zero evidence or victims and yet somehow managed to have their stories told. Meanwhile you have video footage from Palestinians, which we can’t believe, doctors from all over the world who worked in hospitals, who we can’t believe, charities, NGOs, the UN, who have access to Gaza, who we can’t believe. We can only believe what Israel says cos they are our allies and the only democracy in the Middle East (with western values) and they have
record of telling the truth
Dogmuck
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It was all fake, they were lying, this happens in war, they are actors <insert any of your arguments regarding Palestinian being slaughtered, burnt, stripped, bodies being pissed on and abused recorded by Israelis for TikTok, footage of hostages being gang raped etc here>.
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What you continually fail to recognise is that Israel is the occupier, they have obligations that they continually ignore, the Palestinians are the occupied who have the right of resistance by ANY means including combat. You continue to discredit and disregard any footage/statements from any source that shows Israel’s horrific actions, your response is, it’s fake, numbers are lies, people are too fat to be starving, blah blah. Gaza is a 360km2 strip of land that has had over 85000 tons of bombs in just over a year, that’s more than the entire amount of bombs dropped in the whole of WW2 over all countries. I’m not even mentioning the bulldozing, the quadcopters, the snipers and restriction of food and aid that have all lead to the death and destruction. Surely even you, if you took your pro Israeli hat off for a second, can comprehend that that level of bombing would result in tens of thousands of deaths of innocent people, it’s not targeted it’s indiscriminate because it’s obliterated almost the entire strip of land. Don’t call this a war, because it isn’t, you can’t go to war with occupied land, you can’t go to war with people who don’t have an army, a navy, an airforce or a sugar daddy who’s sending them billions of dollars in munitions. Think logically!
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We also need to ask, why are there no independent assessments of what Israel claims? Why are there not international journalists allowed in Gaza, with the exception of a few guided by the IDF? Surely if all that is coming out of Gaza is so fake, let the independent international journalists and agencies in, let them be the camera crews and eye witnesses to what is happening there. If Israel has nothing to hide and you believe their stance that it’s all fake, then let the independents in and they can let the world know what they see. It’s so simple, Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East, who uphold all the international laws and only seek peace etc etc, can stop all this quibbling regarding the veracity of these accounts by simply allowing independent journalists and experts in. Job done, we stop posting fake stuff, you will be the voice of truth and boom, you can sleep easily
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Charlotte1993
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I wish I could live in Jen denial what’s your guess drugs or booze? Because If it’s natural causes they’re beyond saving it’s a shame.
I wonder how she will spin this one
France claims Israel violated ceasefire, warns of collapse of deal - report
France has further warned of the collapse of the agreement in such instances.
m.jpost.com
IdeletedbutI'mbackagain
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I have seen his dead body. I have no idea what kind of weapon could do that to a person.
Dogmuck
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What you need to remember, when you post anything, is to precede your comments with
“this is fake, the images I’ve seen have been edited and all victims were in fact actors” . Hopefully this will satisfy Jen and she can happily feel vindicated in her unwavering support for a genocide.
Charlotte1993
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This reminds me of earlier in the Genocide when that image emerged of a Palestinian women with her dead family and carnage all around her and the media microphones asking her but do you condemn Hamas?
It’s weird nobody asks that anymore I wonder if it’s because a question like that would lead to a conversation about Israeli war crimes
It’s weird nobody asks that anymore I wonder if it’s because a question like that would lead to a conversation about Israeli war crimes
Dogmuck
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Obvs Piers Morgan is still fighting the good fight and asking “do you condemn Hamas” cos 7/10 was the beginning of everything and there’s no history prior to that date. The ICJ ruling in January that this is a plausible genocide (11 months ago) the ICJ in July ruling the 52 year occupation of Palestine (the longest occupation in history) was illegal is all antisemitism and fake news, because nothing is worse than the horrors of 7/10. We are just a bunch of weirdos who keep making things up and we all really just need to accept what the Israelis are saying as gospel and distrust our own lying eyes about anything else we see.This reminds me of earlier in the Genocide when that image emerged of a Palestinian women with her dead family and carnage all around her and the media microphones asking her but do you condemn Hamas?
It’s weird nobody asks that anymore I wonder if it’s because a question like that would lead to a conversation about Israeli war crimes
Veronicaaa
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Probably a terrorist
Dogmuck
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Save the children are antisemitic
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And this is just more lies
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Norman they are not! It’s just lies
Did you misunderstand the ICJ ruling? They did NOT rule there was plausible genocide
Dogmuck
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No. I didn’t misunderstand it, they stated there was plausibility for protection from genocide and that at least some of the SA rights they were seeking protection from were plausible. But obviously I should have preceded it with, SA claims are false and antisemitic and the ICJ even considering them are antisemitic.
Any comment on the ICJ ruling from July? Or the whole previous post I responded to you on? Or should I just fill in the response for you. Lies, fake, antisemitism, terrorists, October 7.
But they didn’t fi
but they didn’t find their was ‘plausible genicide’ which is what you stated above. Joan Donoghue was at pains to point out that many people (like you) had misinterpreted the report
No. I didn’t misunderstand it, they stated there was plausibility for protection from genocide and that at least some of the SA rights they were seeking protection from were plausible. But obviously I should have preceded it with, SA claims are false and antisemitic and the ICJ even considering them are antisemitic.
Any comment on the ICJ ruling from July? Or the whole previous post I responded to you on? Or should I just fill in the response for you. Lies, fake, antisemitism, terrorists, October 7.
but they didn’t find their was ‘plausible genicide’ which is what you stated above. Joan Donoghue was at pains to point out that many people (like you) had misinterpreted the report
Lars Guinard
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Watching Dr Nizam Mamode have to take a moment when the horror he recalls and speaks of gets too much...I don't think I have ever prayed so hard.
How does the world become so indifferent to the suffering of fellow humans?
Charlotte1993
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He’s clearly a self hating Jew and an antisemite his parents being Holocaust survivors is clearly fake to promote his career and how he is a professor I’ll never know when he cannot even recognise pallywood when he sees it what a jerk.
ETA the Palestinians need to stop banging on about forced displacement and their remarks about Ben Givr are utter lies especially the media it needs to stop because everyone knows he loves the Palestinians why is the press so antisemitic
Ben-Gvir: Time is right to incentivize Palestinian migration from Gaza
When asked about the PM's take on incentivizing emigration, Ben-Gvir said that where he once met resistance, he now sees more willingness.
m.jpost.com
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Dogmuck
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Yes Jen we know what Joan said and that’s HER interpretation and yes she has standing in her capacity and you can weasel words all you like but SA brought a case under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in the Gaza Strip. The ICJ found that ‘at least some of the rights claimed by South Africa and for which it is seeking protection are plausible’, including ‘the right of the Palestinians in Gaza to be protected from acts of genocide and related prohibited acts”. So if I say a plausible genocide that’s what I’m talking about. There’s evidence enough for this case to continue or they would have just chucked it out! Stop being pedantic I’m not going to put the whole fuckjng judgement in writing each time you pop up. It’s very clear to all the world and the most respected experts and scholars confirm that Israel has already crossed the threshold for genocide, we don’t need a preliminary ruling from a court who has been threatened, harassed and blackmailed by the Israelis, to hear and see for ourselves but seeing as you think everyone is a liar I guess it doesn’t matter!
So are you going to comment on any of the other issues or are you just going to pursue this one?
Charlotte1993
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Can I add one thing dogmuck and that’s the fact that no international journalists have been allowed to report from inside Gaza and the Israelis have killed every independent journalist that they could and that screams guilt . The truth is if you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide the ICJ ruled on the information they had imagine how much worse the reality will be once the press are allowed into Gaza and images start coming out when this carnage is over.
IdeletedbutI'mbackagain
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It's funny because all this should have made me abandon all faith in God but it has in fact turned me back to him.
A 14 year old child serving a 12 months sentence in an Israeli prison. More lies???
Dogmuck
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You can indeed. It was the point I made earlier to Jen but she likes to cherry pick what she answers, honestly I don’t know why I bother, she’s
Zionist genocide sympathiser, her repeat recycle talking points consist entirely of “it’s fake, it’s a lie, it’s not happening, they’re terrorists, its war, October 7th”. She won’t engage on anything prior to 7/10 cos she’s basic.'yes I know Joan Donoghue, the former president of the ICJ who held the role at the time of the report, said it wasn't a plausible genocide but I still choose to interpret in a way to suit my agenda.'
It isn't clear to 'the world' at all.