Israeli - Palestinian Conflict #20

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Charlotte1993 said:
Absolutely when you think logically and put yourself in their shoes imagine if immigrants in western countries rose up with the backing of their original countries and they started coming in violent armed gangs to take our homes backed up by their own militia for protection would we just sit down and take it and leave to live on the streets with our children and the old that’s the question but the answer is no we would fight back as a collective would that make us a terrorist asking for a friend 👀
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Politicians in western countries are intent on pushing immigration as a threat along those lines. They have more in common with Israel's dehumanising agenda than immigrants do.
There's a difference between migration and colonisation.
 
Atruck said:
Politicians in western countries are intent on pushing immigration as a threat along those lines. They have more in common with Israel's dehumanising agenda than immigrants do.
There's a difference between migration and colonisation.
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I know that I was simply giving a hypothetical example because the people in the West Bank are considered terrorists for fighting back when their homes are taken by intimidation and force but nobody asks what they would do in a similar situation. Immigrants aren’t in a position of power to do that plus they wouldn’t act like the crazed settlers if they were (who would they’re insane) but you have to imagine how you would feel if you were in a similar situation would you be placid and just hand over your keys I don’t know anyone that would so to label the Palestinians in the West Bank as terrorists and then to hold them to higher standard is wrong.
 
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Charlotte1993 said:
I know that I was simply giving a hypothetical example because the people in the West Bank are considered terrorists for fighting back when their homes are taken by intimidation and force but nobody asks what they would do in a similar situation. Immigrants aren’t in a position of power to do that but you have to imagine how you would feel if you were in a similar situation would you be placid and just hand over your keys I don’t know anyone that would so to label the Palestinians in the West Bank as terrorists and then to hold them to higher standard is wrong.
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As you say immigrants aren't in a position of power to do what Israel settlers are doing, so I didn't think it was right to use them as a hypothetical example. Especially when politics portraying people who migrate as disposable and dangerous is a part of why Israel is given licence to act like this.

And it's linked that Meloni showing some opposition to Israel is definitely driven by some facist logic having an eye on what a Palestinian refugee crisis would mean.
 
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As you say immigrants aren't in a position of power to do what Israel settlers are doing, so I didn't think it was right to use them as a hypothetical example. Especially when politics portraying people who migrate as disposable and dangerous is a part of why Israel is given licence to act like this.

And it's linked that Meloni showing some opposition to Israel is definitely driven by some facist logic having an eye on what a Palestinian refugee crisis would mean.
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To be truthful I wasn’t thinking that deep
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Which is it are Hamas using civilians as human shields or are they shooting the civilians leaving when they could use them as shields to escape themselves which is something the Israelis have accused Hamas of doing many times when the IOF has targeted civilians leaving areas of intense fighting saying that Hamas is hiding with them.
The Israeli military are losing the narrative because they’re crimes have become so heinous especially in the north so they’re trying to blame Hamas the same Hamas that they supposedly finished off last summer you couldn’t make this 💩 up.
I feel that we are going to be seeing a lot more of this as they try to deflect attention away from their crimes.
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There is a list…I’m old enough to remember the info graphic of the Hamas war room below Al Shifa - they think they can do this tit again and people will believe it? 🥴

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Dogmuck said:
There is a list…I’m old enough to remember the info graphic of the Hamas war room below Al Shifa - they think they can do this tit again and people will believe it? 🥴

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Didn't the former Israeli Defence Minister come out and say they knew the tunnels were under some Gaza building because they were the ones that built them when Gaza was under their occupation.


Did the IOF use the tunnels to terrorise Gazians when under their occupation or to help Hamas against the PLO.

I can't remember if someone put up some proof that Netanyahu backed Hamas against the PLO.
I wonder if that is why there hasn't been elections in Gaza.
 
Dogmuck said:
There is a list…I’m old enough to remember the info graphic of the Hamas war room below Al Shifa - they think they can do this tit again and people will believe it? 🥴

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It’s such bs dogmuck I was having a little deep dive recently and we live in 2024 what organisation uses cash from what I’ve gathered Hezbollah trade in crypto a lot is hard for the Israelis to track ( they have got to some with the help of their “friends”).
The thing is if Hezbollah are dealing crypto they’ve obviously got a lot of other offshore accounts and the like because the Lebanese are not idiots they know how the world works and one thing is clear and that is that they wouldn’t have all their money in cash where the Israelis could bomb it they’ve had a year to prepare for this war and take it out of the country 🙄
I bet Nasrallah thought you know what let’s leave all our assets in the bank so Israel can destroy it or better still let’s put it in my bunker where they are sure to look first 🤣🤣
 
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Charlotte1993 said:
It’s such bs dogmuck I was having a little deep dive recently and we live in 2024 what organisation uses cash from what I’ve gathered Hezbollah trade in crypto a lot is hard for the Israelis to track ( they have got to some with the help of their “friends”).
The thing is if Hezbollah are dealing crypto they’ve obviously got a lot of other offshore accounts and the like because the Lebanese are not idiots they know how the world works and one thing is clear and that is that they wouldn’t have all their money in cash where the Israelis could bomb it they’ve had a year to prepare for this war and take it out of the country 🙄
I bet Nasrallah thought you know what let’s leave all our assets in the bank so Israel can destroy it or better still let’s put it in my bunker where they are sure to look first 🤣🤣
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To answer that, in 2024 we have BRICS and a huge surge in de-dollarisation. Gold is massive many many countries have been grabbing it up. (We bought £42k worth in 2020 which is now worth nearly £68k because of this mad dash) we know cash is disposable and crypto is super unsafe because remember the Israelis have already blackmailed Binance and seized crypto from Palestinians to the tune of £2b this year. They’ve been doing that since 2021 by accounts I’ve read. Loads of dollars have been sloshing around the Middle East since the yanks invaded Iraq but also they insist on paying for Iraqi oil in fkng dollar bills. With the emergence of the BRICS pac the dollar is gonna be worth tit so everyone is ditching it and buying up gold. What Hezbollah wouldn’t do is hide it in a hospital close to the border, they know what thieving bastards the Israelis are, they also know the Israelis would happily blow up hospitals, schools, churches, mosques etc without a thought so you’re right they aren’t gonna be storing that in Lebanon.
 
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To answer that, in 2024 we have BRICS and a huge surge in de-dollarisation. Gold is massive many many countries have been grabbing it up. (We bought £42k worth in 2020 which is now worth nearly £68k because of this mad dash) we know cash is disposable and crypto is super unsafe because remember the Israelis have already blackmailed Binance and seized crypto from Palestinians to the tune of £2b this year. They’ve been doing that since 2021 by accounts I’ve read. Loads of dollars have been sloshing around the Middle East since the yanks invaded Iraq but also they insist on paying for Iraqi oil in fkng dollar bills. With the emergence of the BRICS pac the dollar is gonna be worth tit so everyone is ditching it and buying up gold. What Hezbollah wouldn’t do is hide it in a hospital close to the border, they know what thieving bastards the Israelis are, they also know the Israelis would happily blow up hospitals, schools, churches, mosques etc without a thought so you’re right they aren’t gonna be storing that in Lebanon.
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That makes sense thanks for that dogmuck the second part is what I was thinking it would be different if this war happened suddenly without warning but according to some sources they knew that Hamas intended to attack Israel and they knew the consequences of that so why would they leave all their Gold in locations that Israel would bomb.
I guess they would need a certain amount of cash to pay their troops but I’m sure it would be well hidden with proxies.
In other news I can’t get that soldier out of my mind the one that has ptsd from bulldozing Palestinians and I thought wow he just admitted to a war crime there and CNN said nothing I mean bulldozing people until their organs explode is giving him trauma shouldn’t he have been arrested the world has gone mad.
 
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The hilarious news from today is all the western press being invited into that hospital and going 🤷‍♀️ where’s the KHezzzbulla and Kgold. It’s fkng hilarious that they can’t censor Lebanon like they could Gaza- they are looking more stupid by the second. Even Sky news are puzzled 🤨
 
Talk about zero self-awareness ffs! :sick:

Yes, Israel has brought the hate on itself by it's own actions. It's now a total pariah in the world's eyes.

The hell Israel's rancid actions will bring to the lives of Israeli's and Israel-lovers by way of Karma. Either way, they are a fucked generation of depraved evil. The baby killers that they are.

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These filthy bvggers are now trying to colonise Lebanon too.

 
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Vedant Patel Is the worst spokesman on the daily briefings I swear the others are bad but they always bring him out when things are really bad he doesn’t give a 💩 and he’s the epitome of word salad I’ve yet to hear him answer a question that isn’t propaganda but he regularly says I can’t answer to that or he diverts saying you will have to ask x department that I’m not going to speak on that.
He really pisses me off well they all do maybe it’s the fact that he is their go to when they don’t wanna address proven atrocities he is the shut it down guy when there is nothing else that they can do.
 
I know what you mean about despondency but then I realise that's what shitsrael and it's cronies want, for people to give up mentally and with less and less action, but then that gives them free rein to do all of their PR to spin it into 'the good guys won against the evil terrorists'.

There's no way I'll cave into that tyrannical tit. I do feel like there's been some progress very slowly but steadily with the ordinary person's actions of demonstrations and boycotts, as well as pure disdain and many more people (as well as world leaders) becoming even more outspoken against Israel's genocide of Palestinians, and their conniving and meddling around the world.

Veronicaaa said:
I'm still on my depression / anger cycle but the depressions are more depressed and the anger is more furious. We're talking about it winding down but it's accelerating, Blinken and Netanyahu are talking about the 'day after' for Gaza, and Blinken's also green-lighting ops in Lebanon. It's expanding, not winding down.
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