Israeli - Palestinian Conflict #20

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

The absolute delusion of those who would claim all this tit as fake. We bleeping wish it was.

 

[Lars Guinard]

Aah, the 'knife bomb' used to kill Ayman Al Zawahiri * in Afghanistan.
The Hellfire R9X, used to minimise...oh what's that word for thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians, collateral damage, you know...those children who just love to sympathise with terrorists. They should be at school anyway, a safe building-
These R9X American bad boys are used exclusively in the 'Middle East', the Americans didn't give any to Ukraine...things would have become too nasty, Ukraine got the smaller version.

I am, however, informed by a reliable (fact,reason and logic backed) source that Sinwar and Iran are responsible for all this, so I don't think it's true that America are supplying such weapons, especially weapons like R9X that could cause mass destruction.

* If any of you are unfamiliar with the name Ayman Al Zawahiri

Trump had the chance to kill Al Qaeda's leader but didn't because he didn't recognize the name, report says

Biden announced on Monday that Ayman al-Zawahiri, the leader of Al Qaeda, was killed by a US drone strike in Afghanistan over the weekend.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Dogmuck]

The absolute delusion of those who would claim all this tit as fake. We bleeping wish it was

Exactly! I’d rather be on another thread giving my iron clad detailed opinion on footballers, with a free Palestine for the last 75 years and no dead people, but as I think genocide is a tad more important than gossip, I’m here - such a grief tourist ghoul that I am

 

[Lammington]

Here's the thing. People don't need to argue over October 7th and what has been claimed, proven, or argued.
Because even if the worst claims from the day were all true, it would not justify what has happened since.

Much as I will not justify the targeting of civilians on October 7th by the 75 years prior, because I cannot and will not justify civilians being harmed, I will never justify the massacre of civilians in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, or Syria by what happened on October 7th.
Because self-defence does not require the deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure, forced displacement, killing journalists, attacking aid workers, or the wholesale massacre of civilians, and revenge via collective punishment is a war crime.

There is no justification for what has happened and what is happening. You can claim it's Hamas's fault, but congratulations - you're just saying that every action Israel willingly and knowingly takes is someone else's fault because that makes you more comfortable. You can claim it's all fake, but you're denying repeated evidence to make yourself more comfortable.
If you're trying to make excuses to make yourself feel comfortable with this horror, you may wish to consider why it's important to you to be comfortable with the deaths of thousands.

 

[Dogmuck]

Here's the thing. People don't need to argue over October 7th and what has been claimed, proven, or argued.
Because even if the worst claims from the day were all true, it would not justify what has happened since.

Much as I will not justify the targeting of civilians on October 7th by the 75 years prior, because I cannot and will not justify civilians being harmed, I will never justify the massacre of civilians in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, or Syria by what happened on October 7th.
Because self-defence does not require the deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure, forced displacement, killing journalists, attacking aid workers, or the wholesale massacre of civilians, and revenge via collective punishment is a war crime.

There is no justification for what has happened and what is happening. You can claim it's Hamas's fault, but congratulations - you're just saying that every action Israel willingly and knowingly takes is someone else's fault because that makes you more comfortable. You can claim it's all fake, but you're denying repeated evidence to make yourself more comfortable.
If you're trying to make excuses to make yourself feel comfortable with this horror, you may wish to consider why it's important to you to be comfortable with the deaths of thousands.

I couldn’t give a damn about Sinwars death in the same way I wouldn’t care if Netanyahu got zapped. I didn’t celebrate 7/10, it made me feel sick, not just the actions of the day but the knowledge of what would be unleashed on innocent Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, history tells us this, so actually what previously occurred is relevant. I didn’t expect it to be this long and this brutal, but I won’t be told I’m a terrorist because I don’t believe the lies that the Israelis are putting out about 7/10 or since in order to justify a genocide. I won’t be silent because the information I choose to share is claimed to be fabricated and that every source is Hamas propaganda, despite most of it coming from governments, msm, Israeli media, the IDF themselves, international organisations and charities. On one side you have unverified information coming from the Israelis, the perpetrators of the crimes and on the other the list mentioned above. It’s not that hard to see on which side the probability of misinformation, lies and doctored evidence comes, but as has been said several times, let independent experts, journalists, doctors and scientists go into Gaza, the West Bank, the Prisons and Israel to see for themselves the situation and the evidence of the Israelis claim, it would be the easiest way to have their assertions verified and then they could come on here and show us the receipts!

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

I couldn’t give a damn about Sinwars death in the same way I wouldn’t care if Netanyahu got zapped. I didn’t celebrate 7/10, it made me feel sick, not just the actions of the day but the knowledge of what would be unleashed on innocent Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, history tells us this, so actually what previously occurred is relevant. I didn’t expect it to be this long and this brutal, but I won’t be told I’m a terrorist because I don’t believe the lies that the Israelis are putting out about 7/10 or since in order to justify a genocide. I won’t be silent because the information I choose to share is claimed to be fabricated and that every source is Hamas propaganda, despite most of it coming from governments, msm, Israeli media, the IDF themselves, international organisations and charities. On one side you have unverified information coming from the Israelis, the perpetrators of the crimes and on the other the list mentioned above. It’s not that hard to see on which side the probability of misinformation, lies and doctored evidence comes, but as has been said several times, let independent experts, journalists, doctors and scientists go into Gaza, the West Bank, the Prisons and Israel to see for themselves the situation and the evidence of the Israelis claim, it would be the easiest way to have their assertions verified and then they could come on here and show us the receipts!

Same as that. I'm sorry if me sharing the video of his last moments and my assessment of the real meaning of what that released footage carried (that clearly escaped the IDF) seemed like I was a fan. I wasn't. But at the same time I understood him, far more than the killers of children and burners of the ill and knew in that moment they had made him a martyr.

 

[Charlotte1993]

Does anyone else feel that the tide is turning ?
X has been so toxic since the beginning but the pro Palestinian posts are starting to overtake the Israeli posts and even then the comments are mostly against the Genocide.
When I read comments before I would feel so disgusted by them but now I’m like yeh yeh go get em. Maybe I’ve just blocked all the apologists

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

I do think so. I just hope it's in time to save Palestine.

Does anyone else feel that the tide is turning ?
X has been so toxic since the beginning but the pro Palestinian posts are starting to overtake the Israeli posts and even then the comments are mostly against the Genocide.
When I read comments before I would feel so disgusted by them but now I’m like yeh yeh go get em. Maybe I’ve just blocked all the apologists

 

[Charlotte1993]

I do think so. I just hope it's in time to save Palestine.

Agreed 100% I feel that anyone justifying this carnage now is either a racist/xenophobe or they have something personal to gain from it.

 

[Dogmuck]

Same as that. I'm sorry if me sharing the video of his last moments and my assessment of the real meaning of what that released footage carried (that clearly escaped the IDF) seemed like I was a fan. I wasn't. But at the same time I understood him, far more than the killers of children and burners of the ill and knew in that moment they had made him a martyr.

Hey don’t you apologise, the IDF released that footage not you. We’ve heard none stop claims of systematic SA that has not been evidence or verified but is still being spouted out. We’ve heard none stop lies about babies being beheaded which have been proven to be absolute and utter bs, because the Israeli released the data of all who were killed on 7/10. We’ve heard this 1200 innocent civilians killed rolled out, they weren’t all innocent civilians many were soldiers and many were killed by Israel themselves. Imagine if we said Sinwar was an innocent civilian???? You brought receipts, you didn’t say YAY or BOO. The other important fact about that video, which has pissed the zios off, is that he wasn’t hiding in a tunnel or wearing women’s clothes, he wasn’t living in luxury in another country- all claims Israel has made, he was fighting on the front line alongside his comrades. They allowed us to see the truth in this and we just pointed out these very clear facts which once again blew the Isreali claims right out of the water. The folk who came on here in the early days were all completely cool with the death and destruction of the Gazans, they’ve not come back and said, hmmm that’s probably too much now, they are just, like V said, coming on to criticise us. Fk them and fk Israel and free Palestine
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[bitterntwisted]

Same as that. I'm sorry if me sharing the video of his last moments and my assessment of the real meaning of what that released footage carried (that clearly escaped the IDF) seemed like I was a fan. I wasn't. But at the same time I understood him, far more than the killers of children and burners of the ill and knew in that moment they had made him a martyr.

I think, I mean, I know I fall on the militant side of things. Gaza has been festering for decades and it was only a matter of time before October 7th happened. When I saw Sinwar injured and throwing a stick at that bloody drone, the same drones that buzz over Gaza every day before Israel invaded, psychologically torturing Gazans as they went on with their days, it was the last act of defiance. He had more guts in his pinky than the whole IOF. The Hasbarans are out now screaming, "But, but, his wife had a Birkin bag!"

Here is Bisan's update.

 

[Dogmuck]

I think, I mean, I know I fall on the militant side of things. Gaza has been festering for decades and it was only a matter of time before October 7th happened. When I saw Sinwar injured and throwing a stick at that bloody drone, the same drones that buzz over Gaza every day before Israel invaded, psychologically torturing Gazans as they went on with their days, it was the last act of defiance. He had more guts in his pinky than the whole IOF. The Hasbarans are out now screaming, "But, but, his wife had a Birkin bag!"

Here is Bisan's update.

His wife “allegedly” has a Birkin bag but Netanyahus wife has been charged, prosecuted and found guilty of fraud of about £80k (two and a half Birkins) for outside catering. Obviously she was given a nice little plea bargain, but whilst Isreal are claiming Sinwars and his wife are living a luxury lifestyle appropriating money that should be going to Gazans, with zero evidence, Netanyahus wife IS actually spending the Israeli state funds on a luxury lifestyle, clearly documented and evidenced by the Israeli court. Every accusation is a confession!

Sara Netanyahu: Israeli PM's wife 'agrees plea bargain' - BBC News

Sara Netanyahu was charged with fraud after being accused of wrongly spending state funds on catering.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Lammington]

I think you'd be hard pressed to find an admirable politician on either side of this conflict, honestly.
When the major ways to maintain your power involve dehumanising propaganda about your enemies and the blood of young people in conflict, the scum rises faster than the cream.

 

[Charlotte1993]

His wife “allegedly” has a Birkin bag but Netanyahus wife has been charged, prosecuted and found guilty of fraud of about £80k (two and a half Birkins) for outside catering. Obviously she was given a nice little plea bargain, but whilst Isreal are claiming Sinwars and his wife are living a luxury lifestyle appropriating money that should be going to Gazans, with zero evidence, Netanyahus wife IS actually spending the Israeli state funds on a luxury lifestyle, clearly documented and evidenced by the Israeli court. Every accusation is a confession!

Sara Netanyahu: Israeli PM's wife 'agrees plea bargain' - BBC News

Sara Netanyahu was charged with fraud after being accused of wrongly spending state funds on catering.

www.bbc.co.uk

The stolen family Netanyahu the man with a stolen name living in a stolen country while living in a stolen house on stolen land

 

[Veronicaaa]

Community notes say the Birkin is a fake

I think you'd be hard pressed to find an admirable politician on either side of this conflict, honestly.
When the major ways to maintain your power involve dehumanising propaganda about your enemies and the blood of young people in conflict, the scum rises faster than the cream.

The difference is, any Palestinian politician worth their salt has historically been murdered/imprisoned/otherwise tortured by Israel. What is Israel's excuse for its lack of admirable politicians?

 

[Charlotte1993]

Community notes say the Birkin is a fake

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The difference is, any Palestinian politician worth their salt has historically been murdered/imprisoned/otherwise tortured by Israel. What is Israel's excuse for its lack of admirable politicians?

I was thinking that I was in turkey once and I said to my friend that something was a bad fake and the shop owner overheard and he said no no I have the best fake in all of turkey hahaha it probably came through the tunnel from Egypt

 

[Veronicaaa]

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

Oh my God guys, I think this is the end


Totally devoid of any human feeling. They cannot see how utterly broken they are.

 

[Charlotte1993]

Oh my God guys, I think this is the end


Totally devoid of any human feeling. They cannot see how utterly broken they are.

My father used to repeat the saying that people believe what they want to believe and it is as true today as it ever was.
I could never understand the concept because to me most situations we discussed were clearly right or wrong so how could anyone not see that but it’s so true even in the midst of a genocide a lot of people choose to believe that it’s either not happening or that it is happening but it’s justified. I wonder how much ego plays into that choice because some people just can’t admit when they’re wrong or maybe they’re xenophobic and just don’t care because the victims are Palestinians and their algorithm validates that with content that is full of Israeli lies and excuses.
ETA so sinwar had the chance to leave

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www.timesofisrael.com

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]