Ioan Gruffudd and Alice Evans #4 He’s just not that into you

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I'm sorry, but if your reaction to somebody saying "you look amazing" is "WTH, you knew about this?" you are fuming since nothing of what Tamzin said indicated that she knew. It's the same with her accusing Ella Newton of knowing just because she left a heart
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welp said:
I'm sorry, but if your reaction to somebody saying "you look amazing" is "WTH, you knew about this?" you are fuming since nothing of what Tamzin said indicated that she knew. It's the same with her accusing Ella Newton of knowing just because she left a heart
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Why does she think everyone wants or fancies her ex husband??? IG has never and will never be in my top 10 male celebs😂

Anyone who disagrees either wants IG for themselves or is complicitbin his affair. Alice , pick a lane to stay in it🙄
 
Sooz said:
In fairness, BW doesn't have much in the way of context.

Seems there are 2 of them throwing around the narc term. I think it's probably thrown around a bit too much. Sometimes you're not a narc, you're just a selfish asshole.
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Agreed on this. Mostly people are just arseholes not narcs. And most of the time it's lying, not gaslighting!

welp said:
I'm sorry, but if your reaction to somebody saying "you look amazing" is "WTH, you knew about this?" you are fuming since nothing of what Tamzin said indicated that she knew. It's the same with her accusing Ella Newton of knowing just because she left a heart
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Wait - it's the word 'fuming' she's planning to base a defamation case on? LOL!!! Good luck with that.
 
Bridgeofsighs said:
AE: "This too will pass". She said, hopefully

I wonder if she even wants it to pass. The narc in her loves the attention and she is still gaining twitter followers. Lots of scorned women who can relate I suppose. Or just rubberneckers.

AE on those who question her narrative: nearly ALL are pro Trump or Brexit. What is it about the right wing and lack of empathy?

LOL

AE: A lot of people definitely knew something - for quite a time. That's what makes me feel so humiliated!

What difference does it make? Him getting a gf was always going to cause a meltdown even if they kept it secret before.

AE: I don't mind making people famous. [BW] Fame (from somebody whose more or less been in it for 25 yrs is NOT all it's made out to be.. Let's see how she deals!

Eh, famous? Only C List and through being married to IG.

AE: Why should we keep it all "inside" or "to our friends" (my friends have had enough) or not wash our dirty linen? I've been TOTALLY fucked over to this man and people should know it

So part of why she spews on twitter is because no one else wants to hear it again irl. Don't blame them. She is a broken record.

AE: Ioan possibly he wants out without taking blame, so he 'finds' blame. In me. Certainly none of us understood (Gloria too) his sudden vindictiveness.

Divorce happens. A witch hunt over who is to blame is redundant and hurtful to kids. As if she was blameless??

AE: I seemed to have GAINED 30 pounds in the last year! Every time I've been bereaved/ had a major life tragedy I've lost weight but this is the opposite and I feel awful cos it's just making me feel worse about myself. Hopefully getting it off my chest'll help!

Or maybe exercising and cutting back on the booze?

AE: I don't think anybody is going to imagine he would have an affair with YOU honey...

So she is still being bitchy despite not looking great herself these days...
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I’m not being mean but she looks to have gained more than 30 pounds. And there she goes again making nasty comments about someone else’s looks! She’s the most shallow person there is. Bully!
 
S_Chynoweth said:
He should probably release a statement and I'm surprised he hasn't been advised to cause this will run and run and run if he doesn't. It won't lose steam because the bones of it are being picked over by so many people and Alice is still in the mad phase.
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He shouldn't have to release a statement because it is a private family matter and the only reason it hasnt been that is because AE can't keep off social media.

His mistake was his social media post last week with Bianca but I suspect the media were circling and maybe forced his hand.

None of us should be picking over the bones of their relationship but we are doing do because AE cant keep her gob shut.
 
EssieMay said:
I just can't think of anything he could say in a statement that wouldn't make it worse. Anything he says will make it worse. I'm surprised he even released the photo with the comment, I guess his lawyers wouldn't be happy with it, but if the 6 months is up maybe he is just so relieved he let his guard down. (He just said he was smiling again, it wasn't a wedding announcement).
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The only thing he could say would be I’m going back to Alice, now duck off BW. That would be it. 🤪🤣
 
I have to give it to her though: I could never keep going on and on and on about this on Social Media. I would be exhausted after 3 days max.
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For the love of god, Ioan. Save those kids. Or anyone else.
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If Ioan has decent lawyers this should be fairly easy, given how often she has told two different versions of her stories. Certainly more likely than her "fuming" case
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"Let's drag the divorce so that he never dates again" or something?

Lawyers btw recommend to not date during a divorce only because it adds emotional baggage to the other spouse and thus can make a agreement harder happen, at least in the first months (which is ideally how long a divorce should take). It's been nearly a year though.

That he moved out btw before filing for divorce is legally much more problematic, but I assume they had arrangements in place that satisfies the court.
 
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Eeek, she doesn't understand defamation law very well, I hope neither of them go down that road - that would be a big unnecessary mess. I thought she said the other day she didn't have a lawyer? At least now she does. She should go for the house, I bet she'd get it!
 
I’ve said from the beginning that AE is unnaturally obsessed with IG. He was naieve, easily manipulated, sheltered and a virgin until he was 22. His mother had to rescue him from joining a cult for heavens sake! AE saw him and was going to have him come Hell or high water. Once she had him she wasn’t letting go. Not then and not now.
I’m not saying he didn’t love her. But I believe that she made it nearly impossible to escape once she got hold of him. He was weak, vulnerable, and deeply insecure. Insecurity can disguise itself as vanity.
Alice ignored his requests not to do certain things. Not to speak out against Weinstein, not to pick a political side, not to post things on Sm. If you think that won’t kill a marriage then I don’t know what you think will.

It says your feelings don’t matter to me. Mine come first so I’m posting this or doing this interview even though it worries you that we won’t be able to support ourselves or our family because I’m Alice Evans Gruff and it’s my way or the highway.
 
iamthecat said:
AE was with OP. He was pretty shiny. He reflected his shine upon her throughout the Paris “scene”. She probably get all shiny and special as well - an English girl, upcoming actress, trilingual, it was probably a great time for her.
Then she makes a movie, 102 Dalmations with IG. This movie has the potential to push her star a bit higher. And a romance with a costar? Well the sky’s the limit there! Potential to become Hollywood’s up and coming “Cool Britannia” couple. Dump OP, get with IG, AE begins to shine even brighter now. The Hollywood stage has far more potential than the Paris scene.
But then IG made the fatal mistake of shining a bit too brightly. His star continued to rise and hers kind of spluttered and faltered. How dare he! And so she starts to pull him back down again. And continues to pull him down, whilst still maintaining enough of his shininess to keep her shiny, until he finally after 18 years has enough and breaks it off.

Classic narc 101. If he was the narc, he’d have broken it off with her years ago and gotten with a younger Hollywood actress.
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This analysis does not tally with what Ioan himself says in interviews. From the same article I posted earlier:

Gruffudd’s career took off quickly. He had small roles in Titanic and Wilde straight after drama school, then was cast as the lead in the ITV series Hornblower. He made it to Hollywood, with parts in Black Hawk Down and King Arthur, and then as Reed Richards in two Fantastic Four films.

“I sort of assumed that would be a calling card.” But, he says, he failed to take advantage of his profile, and found that work dried up in his 30s. He has said before that he lost his confidence and started seeing a therapist. Does he ever look at the roles other people get and feel envious? “When you’re not working, in Hollywood, you get presented every week with a new poster going up and you know where you are in the pecking order,” he says. “I’ve managed to not suppress that, but to be aware of it and not take any heed of it, because you can’t compete with another actor as far as I’m concerned. The decision that is taken is not in his hands or my hands.” He says he feels genuinely pleased when he sees his peers doing well. “Because if he can do it, then I can do it – that’s how I look at it.”

It was Evans, heavily pregnant with their first daughter, who, as he puts it, staged “an intervention one day and said: ‘We’re going to have to change things up.’” She encouraged him to change his management team. His new manager said: ‘Give me five months, I’m going to put this back on track.’ And she did.” He started picking up lead roles, mainly in television. Liar marked his return to British TV; he also plays the lead, a forensic pathologist, in the Australian drama Harrow.'

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welp said:
I'm sorry, but if your reaction to somebody saying "you look amazing" is "WTH, you knew about this?" you are fuming since nothing of what Tamzin said indicated that she knew. It's the same with her accusing Ella Newton of knowing just because she left a heart
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I'm guessing you've never been betrayed by people you thought were your friends? You lose all judgement and think *everyone* but you must have known.

IHateHadargoyle said:
I’ve said from the beginning that AE is unnaturally obsessed with IG.
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Or, a kinder interpretation:

She really really loved him. I think that much is clear. It also explains why she thought every other woman fancied him. You think that when you adore the very bones of someone.
 
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iamthecat said: AE was with OP. He was pretty shiny. He reflected his shine upon her throughout the Paris “scene”. She probably get all shiny and special as well - an English girl, upcoming actress, trilingual, it was probably a great time for her.
Then she makes a movie, 102 Dalmations with IG. This movie has the potential to push her star a bit higher. And a romance with a costar? Well the sky’s the limit there! Potential to become Hollywood’s up and coming “Cool Britannia” couple. Dump OP, get with IG, AE begins to shine even brighter now. The Hollywood stage has far more potential than the Paris scene.
But then IG made the fatal mistake of shining a bit too brightly. His star continued to rise and hers kind of spluttered and faltered. How dare he! And so she starts to pull him back down again. And continues to pull him down, whilst still maintaining enough of his shininess to keep her shiny, until he finally after 18 years has enough and breaks it off.
Classic narc 101. If he was the narc, he’d have broken it off with her years ago and gotten with a younger Hollywood actress.

I agree with this. That said, he did have a lean patch (right after he killed his website and married her) where he didn't work for over two years but things seem better for him lately. AE's acting career is now over - the agent dumped her. The only thing I could see her getting now is some low rent reality show. Or Loose Women.

As for IG not wanting AE to be political - I think it was more the way she did it. Name calling Trump family members etc.

And now she has posted this -

AE: I have EVERY SINGLE THING documented. I have tapes. I have recordings. I have documents. I. have a year of divorce therapy where everything is on file. I have two lawyers. I have a witness who saw everything from inside the house and 3 others I've been writing to for 16 months.

The witness being Gloria? Are the 3 main FMs, the 3 she mentions? Oh boy as if it wasn't ugly already...
 
She has tapes and recordings? And then she wonders why he isnt seeing her in-person
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now that would be hilarious if one of Ioan's mates couldnt keep shut about this to her (if true, she could share a censored screenshot)
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Her father (according to her) cut the kids off, Ioan hasnt done that. And if she defines this as such then she probably exagerates what her father did too (as suspected all along, she slipped up last year that the younger brother has contact to him)
 
Bridgeofsighs said:
AE: I have EVERY SINGLE THING documented. I have tapes. I have recordings. I have documents. I. have a year of divorce therapy where everything is on file. I have two lawyers. I have a witness who saw everything from inside the house and 3 others I've been writing to for 16 months.

The witness being Gloria? Are the 3 main FMs, the 3 she mentions? Oh boy as if it wasn't ugly already...
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But I thought this was all a total shocking surprise in January? How does she have a year of divorce therapy when it's only November, 16 months' worth of documentation (of what?) and now two lawyers? She was saying the other day she couldn't even afford one because IG was refusing to pay for one or something. It's probably all deleted now but I'm sure I didn't imagine it.

In other news I started watching Vampire Diaries and it is NOT my cup of tea so probably won't watch more, but I didn't think she was bad in it - I thought she was one of the better actors in her scenes! I mean there wasn't much competition but still. Her hair was very nice too! I'm sure she could do more shows like that in the future.
 
S_Chynoweth said:
This analysis does not tally with what Ioan himself says in interviews. From the same article I posted earlier:

Gruffudd’s career took off quickly. He had small roles in Titanic and Wilde straight after drama school, then was cast as the lead in the ITV series Hornblower. He made it to Hollywood, with parts in Black Hawk Down and King Arthur, and then as Reed Richards in two Fantastic Four films.

“I sort of assumed that would be a calling card.” But, he says, he failed to take advantage of his profile, and found that work dried up in his 30s. He has said before that he lost his confidence and started seeing a therapist. Does he ever look at the roles other people get and feel envious? “When you’re not working, in Hollywood, you get presented every week with a new poster going up and you know where you are in the pecking order,” he says. “I’ve managed to not suppress that, but to be aware of it and not take any heed of it, because you can’t compete with another actor as far as I’m concerned. The decision that is taken is not in his hands or my hands.” He says he feels genuinely pleased when he sees his peers doing well. “Because if he can do it, then I can do it – that’s how I look at it.”

It was Evans, heavily pregnant with their first daughter, who, as he puts it, staged “an intervention one day and said: ‘We’re going to have to change things up.’” She encouraged him to change his management team. His new manager said: ‘Give me five months, I’m going to put this back on track.’ And she did.” He started picking up lead roles, mainly in television. Liar marked his return to British TV; he also plays the lead, a forensic pathologist, in the Australian drama Harrow.'

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How does it not tally? She ditched OP for IG in the belief that he’d be a bigger fish and the two of them would take off in Hollywood. Just because it didn’t work out doesn’t mean that wasn’t her intention.
It wouldn’t surprise me at all that he had those early “lean years” because of the attachment to her. Can you imagine if she was going along to auditions with him, constantly on with the agent, basically making an irritation of herself all over LA….
 
welp said:
She has tapes and recordings? And then she wonders why he isnt seeing her in-person
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now that would be hilarious if one of Ioan's mates couldnt keep shut about this to her (if true, she could share a censored screenshot)
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Her father (according to her) cut the kids off, Ioan hasnt done that. And if she defines this as such then she probably exagerates what her father did too (as suspected all along, she slipped up last year that the younger brother has contact to him)
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I think it’s time AE puts her money where her mouth is or stfu!
 
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