Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #87 Selfies galore: Alice, do you WANT MORE?

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bats*itbarbie said:
[SPOILER="Merail re Health, SA etc]/
I hope ive done spoiler correctly to protect those triggered by these topics.
So turds, I've shared a bit in the past about my history re why I initially sided with AE. Divorce, cheating, etc etc. Can't recall if I also explained that I was raped by my first manager out of college, who was also the CEO of the company, a powerful businessman at the time and also my then long term boyfriends fathers best friend. The Harvey W stuff triggered the hell out if me at the time, although my rape was a long time ago. It's another reason I don't believe AE and her story re HW now. Tbh though, I've been very anti men for a few years, since Divorce, and also because my brother in law was very inappropriately texting and calling me at one stage after I separated, saying he'd " picked the wrong sister " and after I called him out on it on a call, he totally denied it. It caused a rift between my sister and I for a few years. I have since chosen to move past it and although it was really bloody hard, I'm OK with it now because I know he knows he fucked up big time, and he was going through a lot of stuff himself.
Also, some here mentioned about tapering issues for SSRIs. I've started tapering off Lexapro, as I was on 20mg for 2 years and tbh it wasn't helping. I worked through my depression ( have had since age 16 at least, plus anxiety, probably younger) via a load of self help books, meditation, nature!!! Big time, and generally learning about myself. just started therapy again though, as I think that's the final piece in the puzzle I need.
All this to say, a huge part of me going back to therapy, and feeling better in myself has been down in no small part to this thread! The inspiration and insight I've received here gas been honestly better than anything I've ever experienced with family or friends. Realistically, I know I probably will never get to meet any of the wonderful, inspirational and all around bleeping hilarious and insightful folks I've been privileged enough to share words with on here. I can't thank you all enough for what you've brought to my life in the past year. You are all truly amazing people, each so different and all ( well most bar the occasional trolls obviously!) so very insightful, honest and very, very human. I love you all. I never would have expected to find any of this on a gossip forum, nor have imagined sharing this with strangers from everywhere. But here I am! Thank you ! And because tomorrow is Paddy's Day and I'm Irish: go raibh maith agat a stór!
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Thank you for sharing your words with us, just need to say first of all that the spoiler hasn't worked though.

I'm so glad that you've found solace in these pages and I do not blame you for being anti men at all and you're a better person than me than to move past that.
Thank you for sharing and a big hug to you 💕🫂
 
M33L4 said:
Wish people (Alice) wouldn't bring it on to Selma’s post. Considering what she's going through right now and the post is about awareness for MS. Bad etiquette.
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It’s in such bad taste but only Malice comes off looking bad so if it brings awareness to her appalling behaviour so be it. She might realise what a monster she truly is when people are calling her out rather than fawning over her..
 
ShatnersBassoon said:
They do look so incredibly in sync. As they have in other photos. They look alike which is meant to be a good omen. I am however a bit distracted by the overly white teeth.
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I agree with the in sync.

Early Ioan and Alice looked like slightly drunk teenagers on prom night, full of conceit and arrogance. She was dressed for attention and they both packed in too much PDA. In other words they were infatuated, inebriated and fake.
Later Ioan and Alice were epitome of the couple who bicker in a way that makes you uncomfortable and always seem to be disappointed in each other. In other words he had sobered up and she was hungover.
 
bats*itbarbie said:
[SPOILER="Merail re Health, SA etc]/
I hope ive done spoiler correctly to protect those triggered by these topics.
So turds, I've shared a bit in the past about my history re why I initially sided with AE. Divorce, cheating, etc etc. Can't recall if I also explained that I was raped by my first manager out of college, who was also the CEO of the company, a powerful businessman at the time and also my then long term boyfriends fathers best friend. The Harvey W stuff triggered the hell out if me at the time, although my rape was a long time ago. It's another reason I don't believe AE and her story re HW now. Tbh though, I've been very anti men for a few years, since Divorce, and also because my brother in law was very inappropriately texting and calling me at one stage after I separated, saying he'd " picked the wrong sister " and after I called him out on it on a call, he totally denied it. It caused a rift between my sister and I for a few years. I have since chosen to move past it and although it was really bloody hard, I'm OK with it now because I know he knows he fucked up big time, and he was going through a lot of stuff himself.
Also, some here mentioned about tapering issues for SSRIs. I've started tapering off Lexapro, as I was on 20mg for 2 years and tbh it wasn't helping. I worked through my depression ( have had since age 16 at least, plus anxiety, probably younger) via a load of self help books, meditation, nature!!! Big time, and generally learning about myself. just started therapy again though, as I think that's the final piece in the puzzle I need.
All this to say, a huge part of me going back to therapy, and feeling better in myself has been down in no small part to this thread! The inspiration and insight I've received here gas been honestly better than anything I've ever experienced with family or friends. Realistically, I know I probably will never get to meet any of the wonderful, inspirational and all around bleeping hilarious and insightful folks I've been privileged enough to share words with on here. I can't thank you all enough for what you've brought to my life in the past year. You are all truly amazing people, each so different and all ( well most bar the occasional trolls obviously!) so very insightful, honest and very, very human. I love you all. I never would have expected to find any of this on a gossip forum, nor have imagined sharing this with strangers from everywhere. But here I am! Thank you ! And because tomorrow is Paddy's Day and I'm Irish: go raibh maith agat a stór!
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Sorry to quote on my own post, but I can see my spoiler hadn't worked properly. I'm so sorry! Also wanted to say, no longer anti men at all, and re lexapro, those talking of zaps etc, I feel you! I'm tapering very very slowly atm, no zaps so far, just nausea and headaches and tbh that could be covid too lol!
To keep on topic, all of this is to say, whilst I havent kids in the mix, I hate how Alice uses everything as an excuse. while I say I was anti man for a bit, it wasn't an active and vitriolic abuse, it was just an in my head, done for a bit, can't engage kind of thing. I will never ever get AEs thought process, ever.
 
bats*itbarbie said:
Sorry to quote on my own post, but I can see my spoiler hadn't worked properly. I'm so sorry! Also wanted to say, no longer anti men at all, and re lexapro, those talking of zaps etc, I feel you! I'm tapering very very slowly atm, no zaps so far, just nausea and headaches and tbh that could be covid too lol!
To keep on topic, all of this is to say, whilst I havent kids in the mix, I hate how Alice uses everything as an excuse. while I say I was anti man for a bit, it wasn't an active and vitriolic abuse, it was just an in my head, done for a bit, can't engage kind of thing. I will never ever get AEs thought process, ever.
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No, no need to apologise at all!
And I know you said it took a lot to move past being anti men I was saying that took a lot and is amazing. Well I think I did, I'm not at all eloquent with my words. I'm sorry.
Continue to take it slowly re: meds as I came off mine cold turkey and it was horrendous. You're doing great.
And just to add I felt that your anti man was more about the thinking of men rather than what Alice has done which is wrecking ball mentality dare her possessions leave or tell her what for.
More hugs! 🫂
 
Madge Harvey said:
Tony really is just disgusting isn’t he? Like I hate to ugly shame people and try not to but he is so vile I just can’t for the life of me understand what Rachel sees in him. What exactly does he bring to her life?
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Riiiiight?! He looks like the type of man who spends his days going between the bookies and the pub, leers at the lounge girls and drinks a can of tennants on the way home.

Rachel, are you OK?? Blink once for yes..
 
Marj24 said:
I think Alice is currently too busy in the DM comments section using her socks, firstly Thoushaltnotlie and when called out on it, Jasper69 to be anywhere else at the moment.
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The court documents are purposely one-sided and have been presented by him. Of course they'll make Alice look bad. That was his intention all along.
He doesn't want them. He's too busy gallivanting around the globe
He doesn't want them. They'd cramp his style. Do you really think his g/f would want to look after another woman's kids. Not a chance.
And at least she's being a parent.

We see you mAlice
👁👁
 
Treacletrixter said:
I thought she was clinging to the vestiges of an “in name“ only marriage. Which they had from Aug 2020. But I would speculate that it was from earlier. Methinks he was in the spare room / garage way before around lockdown at least. There is a receipt that says he was only home for a week at Christmas 2019. Which was oddly short for such a long journey.

Its purely my speculation but I think without lockdown and pandemic he would have left after S3 Harrow wrap. And she knew it, hence the pandemic hysteria to pull him back in and try to keep him.

She was pathetically desperate to be Mrs IG and she wouldn’t have let him go at first attempt.
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Do you mean in August after he went back to Oz or in March when she made him come home?
I also think things were rocky for their marriage much earlier.
 
welp said:
regarding the garage thing: the way I understood it she wanted to force him to leave his apartment and find something in the valley (because it's cheaper) and in the meantime he stays in their garage where he probably spend most of the time before seperating anyway? (not like this would be less disgusting, mind)


well, Alice had the optics

but hilarious though how his description of what he dreams a future wife to be didnt fit with Alice at all tho lol
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The way I understood it was she wanted to stay in the house and not have to move out. He could move into the garage. That way they could keep up pretenses for his career. He could divorce her when the kids graduated from high school and go find all the bogans he wants. (OK. She didn't quite say it that way.) And maybe, in my head, I'm just running different comments by her over months all into one, though. LOL
 
Bridgeofsighs said:
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The court documents are purposely one-sided and have been presented by him. Of course they'll make Alice look bad. That was his intention all along.
He doesn't want them. He's too busy gallivanting around the globe
He doesn't want them. They'd cramp his style. Do you really think his g/f would want to look after another woman's kids. Not a chance.
And at least she's being a parent.

We see you mAlice
👁👁
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Tell me Alice has internet access without telling me Alice has internet access...
 
GetAGripOfYourself said:
Riiiiight?! He looks like the type of man who spends his days going between the bookies and the pub, leers at the lounge girls and drinks a can of tennants on the way home.

Rachel, are you OK?? Blink once for yes..
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no wonder his phone store had to close. I definitely wouldn’t want that creeper knowing my phone digits. You just know every female that bought a phone from him received it with his number pre loaded in case they needed out of hours ‘support’ 😉
 
welp said:
regarding the garage thing: the way I understood it she wanted to force him to leave his apartment and find something in the valley (because it's cheaper) and in the meantime he stays in their garage where he probably spend most of the time before seperating anyway? (not like this would be less disgusting, mind)


well, Alice had the optics

but hilarious though how his description of what he dreams a future wife to be didnt fit with Alice at all tho lol
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Can someone clear up the housing timeline for me? I've been side-eyeing Ioan a little for moving out of his marital home and straight in with B, I don't feel that was in the girls' best interest. But did he actually have the apartment previous to getting with Bianca? If so that changes things for me. I thought he was in the garage for months before getting a place with B, but all this comes from my imperfect memory so I'd love to be corrected!

I understand Alice saying so many different things muddies the waters considerably. I do agree he'd have been gone a lot longer if not for the pandemic.
 
SynthGirl said:
The way I understood it was she wanted to stay in the house and not have to move out. He could move into the garage. That way they could keep up pretenses for his career. He could divorce her when the kids graduated from high school and go find all the bogans he wants. (OK. She didn't quite say it that way.) And maybe, in my head, I'm just running different comments by her over months all into one, though. LOL
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I took this the same way but then I read it again and she talks in the same message about him moving to the valley

Remember that these messages were in July, there was no happy marriage pretense to keep up anymore at that point given how hard she had already slammed him in public. Her whole rants at that point were all about not spending money)

Just Alice Evans things, I guess
 
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